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| From | Rainer Dorsch <ml@bokomoko.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: Firefox ESR EOL |
| Date | 2021-12-18 12:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DvGee-86P-15@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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Am Freitag, 10. Dezember 2021, 13:25:17 CET schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez: > [...] > All the hate in this thread is really very tiresome. I'm not directing > this specifically to you, Christian, rather speaking of the general tone > of this thread. Discussing alternatives for users who are concerned > about still being on FF 78 ESR and who would like options for running > the latest ESR is fine. But bashing on the people who have been working > literally for months on sorting out all of the issues (and there are > many) to bring the latest FF ESR into Debian stable/oldstable is not > productive. Nor is it productive to point at Debian and other distros > and say things like "they do it, how come Debian can't?" Each distro > has slightly different objectives, operating frameworks, etc. Debian's > goals are different from Ubuntu's goals, are different from Fedora's > goals, are different from Mozilla upstream's goals. Let's just accept > that (or work constructively to adjust the goals to better suit you) and > support the people doing the work. Hi Roberto, thanks and I agree with all you wrote. But also be aware that not all critics is bashing and not everybody has the skills and/or time to actively help to backport the necessary packages. I do not intend to bash anybody, I understand that Debian is based on volunteer work (which is tremendous), and I hope that you consider the feedback as constructive. What I am missing is transparency, but it might be my fault that I just do not find the right information. What would help me feeling more comfortable with the situation is 1) a statement which is informing the users through a Debian channel about the thread before that appears on Linux Blogs/news channels. Even now I have not seen any comment on this topic. I am subscribed to the what I think are the relevant Debian channels for Debian users (and some more). 2) an estimate for the ETA. That would it make easier for me to decide if I can just wait for the update or if I need to work on another solution myself. Regards Rainer -- Rainer Dorsch http://bokomoko.de/
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