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Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

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On 2021-09-03 at 15:16, Brian wrote:

> On Fri 03 Sep 2021 at 13:40:52 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:24:31PM +0100, Brian wrote:

>>> Surely - if you have a package installed from a previous release,
>>> it does not get removed simply because testing does not have it?
>> 
>> Correct.
>> 
>>> It looks to me that the first line in sources.list does not help
>>> in this situation.
>> 
>> Also correct, *but* it does help if you want to install something from
>> stable that has been removed from testing.
>> 
>> In the absence of "pinning", using the two lines that The Wanderer
>> posted would give you a testing system, with the option to pull in
>> packages from stable if needed.  It's a viable setup.  Sensible.
> 
> The bit that neeeds emphasising is 
> 
>   ...give you a testing system.
> 
> That is what the second entry in sources.list does.
> 
> It doesn't matter what the other line is, the user is working 
> with a testing system. That is where the packages come from.
> 
> Having said that, the option to pull in packages from stable
> as needed is moot, apart from security updates or absence on
> testing. It looks like cargo cult.

Absence in testing is the specific reason why I still include that line:
in case I need to install a package because I need its functionality,
but it's been temporarily removed from testing for whatever reason.

That scenario has actually arisen a handful of times over the years, and
the rest of the time, having the line included doesn't seem to have done
any harm.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 16:20 +0200
  Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-09-03 16:50 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 17:20 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2021-09-03 17:50 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-03 19:10 +0200
      Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-09-03 21:00 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-03 19:30 +0200
      Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-03 19:50 +0200
        Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-09-03 21:10 +0200
        Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-03 21:20 +0200
          Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-09-03 22:00 +0200
            Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-09-04 03:40 +0200
              Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Richard Forst <sterbl.ta@tutanota.com> - 2021-09-04 05:00 +0200
  Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-09-03 17:30 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 17:40 +0200
  Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2021-09-04 07:00 +0200
  Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-04 12:10 +0200

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