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Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing?

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On 03/09/2021 11:40, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-09-03 at 10:17, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 04:11:49PM +0200, Richard Forst wrote:
>>
>> If you change all instances of bullseye -> testing, then you are not
>> mixing. Go ahead with that, modulo the standard caveats associated
>> with running testing. The problem would come if you tried to include
>> both bullseye *and* testing sources in your sources.list. Then you
>> might create very difficult to resolve problems.
> Are you sure about that last part?
>
> I have been running with (e.g.)
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib
>
> for over a decade, and while there have been some problems, I think
> they've been basically the same ones I'd have seen from running testing
> alone; none of them have seemed terribly difficult to resolve, either.
> (At least not by my standards, although I'll admit that I may not be the
> best or most representative example.)
>
> I don't particularly consider this mixing releases; it's more tracking
> testing, while still keeping available any packages which were in stable
> but have been removed from testing.
>
> IMO, if you're going to track testing at all on a production computer
> (as opposed to, well, for the purpose of actually *testing the upcoming
> release*), it only makes sense to also include stable; there's too much
> chance of an important package being (temporarily or permanently)
> unavailable, otherwise.

But there's a chance that the version in stable is not installable 
anymore because it depends on packages that have been upgraded on 
testing and are incompatible with stable.

That said, I agree with you that there's a bit of exaggeration about 
mixing releases. Sure, it's not something to be recommended to a 
beginner or someone who's used to just clicking "Next >" to 
install/upgrade software, but provided one knows what they are doing and 
are careful when running apt-get (or equivalents), it's certainly 
possible and won't lead to guaranteed breakage.


-- 
   Goes (Went) over like a lead balloon.

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
eduardo@kalinowski.com.br

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Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 16:20 +0200
  Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-09-03 16:50 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 17:20 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Eduardo M KALINOWSKI <eduardo@kalinowski.com.br> - 2021-09-03 17:50 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-03 19:10 +0200
      Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-09-03 21:00 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-03 19:30 +0200
      Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-09-03 19:50 +0200
        Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-09-03 21:10 +0200
        Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-09-03 21:20 +0200
          Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-09-03 22:00 +0200
            Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? riveravaldez <riveravaldezmail@gmail.com> - 2021-09-04 03:40 +0200
              Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Richard Forst <sterbl.ta@tutanota.com> - 2021-09-04 05:00 +0200
  Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? piorunz <piorunz@gmx.com> - 2021-09-03 17:30 +0200
    Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 17:40 +0200
  Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2021-09-04 07:00 +0200
  Re: How to update Debian 11 source.list to testing? "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-09-04 12:10 +0200

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