Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT

From	The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT
Date	2021-07-12 12:10 +0200
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On 2021-07-12 at 03:49, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Du, 11 iul 21, 14:25:31, The Wanderer wrote:
> 
>> The issue turns out to have been that /dev/dri/renderD128 is owned
>> by group render, and my user was not a member of that group. I
>> don't know of anything which should have told me that it needed to
>> be.
> 
> As far as I understand, this should be taken care of automatically
> via systemd-logind. Might need some Desktop Environment integration
> as well.

I don't run systemd, in part specifically because I don't like
systemd-logind. (IMO, logging in should not automatically launch a
daemon.)

I have, somewhat reluctantly, accepted running elogind instead; I think
that's supposed to be functionality-identical to systemd-logind, just
standalone rather than integrated with the rest of the interconnected
tangle of systemd elements. In this case, it doesn't seem to have
adjusted group membership or device ownership or similar; I'm not sure
whether that's a bug in elogind, or a consequence of the fact that it
doesn't tie in with e.g. udev, or just a misconfiguration on my end.

That said, AFAIR it was never necessary to have a daemon like that in
order for my user to wind up being a member of group video (and having
access to the GPU via GLX), so for such a daemon to be necessary in
order for my user to be a member of group render (and have access to the
GPU via Vulkan) seems like an undesirable and unfortunate step backwards...

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

Thread

Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-09 23:50 +0200
  Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT "tv.debian@googlemail.com" <tv.debian@googlemail.com> - 2021-07-10 13:50 +0200
    Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-07-10 14:00 +0200
      Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT "tv.debian@googlemail.com" <tv.debian@googlemail.com> - 2021-07-10 15:00 +0200
        Re: Didn't mean to derail (Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT) Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-07-10 15:20 +0200
          Re: Didn't mean to derail (Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT) "tv.debian@googlemail.com" <tv.debian@googlemail.com> - 2021-07-10 15:30 +0200
          Re: Didn't mean to derail (Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT) Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2021-07-10 17:00 +0200
            Re: Didn't mean to derail (Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT) Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2021-07-11 17:20 +0200
      Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan  with Radeon RX 5700 XT] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-10 20:20 +0200
        Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan  with Radeon RX 5700 XT] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-10 20:40 +0200
          Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan  with Radeon RX 5700 XT] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-10 20:50 +0200
          Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan  with Radeon RX 5700 XT] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-11 09:40 +0200
            Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan  with Radeon RX 5700 XT] The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-11 13:00 +0200
              Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan  with Radeon RX 5700 XT] Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 09:50 +0200
        Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re:  Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT] Brian Thompson <brian@hashvault.io> - 2021-07-10 20:50 +0200
          Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan  with Radeon RX 5700 XT] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-07-10 21:00 +0200
          Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan  with Radeon RX 5700 XT] Greg Wooledge <greg@wooledge.org> - 2021-07-10 21:00 +0200
    Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-10 17:50 +0200
      Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT "idiotein30@gmail.com" <idiotein30@gmail.com> - 2021-07-10 23:40 +0200
        Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-11 01:10 +0200
          Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-11 01:20 +0200
            Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT "tv.debian@googlemail.com" <tv.debian@googlemail.com> - 2021-07-11 12:40 +0200
        Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-11 19:30 +0200
          Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-11 20:30 +0200
            Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 10:00 +0200
              Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-12 12:10 +0200
                Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-07-12 14:30 +0200
            Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT "tv.debian@googlemail.com" <tv.debian@googlemail.com> - 2021-07-12 11:40 +0200
              Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-12 12:20 +0200
  Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-07-10 17:20 +0200
    Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-10 18:00 +0200
      Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT "Alexander V. Makartsev" <avbetev@gmail.com> - 2021-07-11 10:50 +0200
        Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-11 12:50 +0200
  Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT Geoff <unit735@bigpond.com> - 2021-07-11 04:00 +0200
    Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-11 05:50 +0200

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