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Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

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On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 09:19:10AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 17 ian 21, 20:12:38, Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 16 Jan 2021 at 20:57:19 +0100, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> > >  This
> > > may have advantages and disadvantages, but you don't get to control
> > > those :)
> > 
> > In terms of control, the burnt-in firmware cannot cannot be controlled
> > either. I do not know where this gets us.

I don't know what was ambiguous in what I said. I said "you don't get
to control when (and what kind of) an update arrives".

No more, no less. In the case of a burnt-in firmware, you get to work
with a "known xxx" [1] state. You lear to know (and possibly circumvent)
bugs, backdoors and other old fellas.

> Besides, the manufacturer might even fix some bugs in the firmware.

Or to insert new and nastier backdoors, as mandated by their
local government (or by their new, ad-industry fueled corporate
overlords, or by whomever whose interests might not align with
yours).

Did I say "advantages and disadvantages?

Cheers

[1] for "xxx" in "good", "bad" and any other suitable value in
   between.

 - t

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Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2021-01-16 18:30 +0100
  Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-01-16 19:00 +0100
    Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2021-01-16 19:20 +0100
      Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-01-16 19:30 +0100
        Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-01-16 20:40 +0100
          Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-01-16 22:20 +0100
            Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-01-17 20:30 +0100
          Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-01-16 23:00 +0100
            Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-01-16 23:10 +0100
              Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-01-17 06:10 +0100
                Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2021-01-17 13:50 +0100
                Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 08:20 +0100
              Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 08:00 +0100
            Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 10:00 +0100
      Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-01-16 21:00 +0100
        Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-01-17 21:20 +0100
          Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 08:20 +0100
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      Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-01-16 21:50 +0100
    Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 02:50 +0100
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  Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-01-16 22:50 +0100

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