Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.debian.user > #230735

Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k)

Show all headers | View raw

[Multipart message — attachments visible in raw view] - view raw

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 08:40:53PM -0500, Celejar wrote:

[...]

> I think you're conflating two senses of wireless 'firmware' - the kind
> that runs on the wireless chipset itself (i.e., the stuff that Debian
> ships in its free and non-free 'firmware' packages), and the kind that
> runs on the system containing wireless hardware (e.g., WiFi OEM's stock
> firmware, OpenWrt, etc.).

Thanks for /that/ reminder. I totally forgot that, for a "box"
the whole thing (what we consider an operating system) also
runs as "firmware". It's "firmwares all the way down" [1].

> The article you link to was a scare about the latter, which never
> really materialized:

Exactly.

> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/fcc-forces-tp-link-to-support-open-source-firmware-on-routers/

And... to those who now say "but you can't bypass your local
regulations from the OEM stock firmware (what we tend to call
the operating system)". Yes, you can. Just tell  that firmware
downstairs that you are in a different jurisdiction [1], where
you are allowed to spew out a couple of watts more, or use that
nice channel.

Cheers

[1] Technically, this is called "regulatory domain" and search
   engines readily spew out lots of hits for that, e.g.
   https://wifibond.com/2016/10/26/regulatory-domain-and-compliance/
   It's one of those curious cases where legal stakes, sovereignity
   questions, user rights and corporate interests & greed wedge in
   a very strange way.

 - t

Back to linux.debian.user | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2021-01-16 18:30 +0100
  Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-01-16 19:00 +0100
    Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Steven Mainor <steve@degga.net> - 2021-01-16 19:20 +0100
      Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-01-16 19:30 +0100
        Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-01-16 20:40 +0100
          Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amacater@einval.com> - 2021-01-16 22:20 +0100
            Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-01-17 20:30 +0100
          Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-01-16 23:00 +0100
            Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> - 2021-01-16 23:10 +0100
              Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2021-01-17 06:10 +0100
                Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2021-01-17 13:50 +0100
                Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 08:20 +0100
              Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 08:00 +0100
            Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) didier gaumet <didier.gaumet@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 10:00 +0100
      Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-01-16 21:00 +0100
        Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2021-01-17 21:20 +0100
          Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 08:20 +0100
            Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-01-18 10:30 +0100
      Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2021-01-16 21:50 +0100
    Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 02:50 +0100
      Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2021-01-17 10:20 +0100
  Re: Open source Atheros wifi? (ath10k) Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2021-01-16 22:50 +0100

csiph-web