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Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed

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On 7/7/20 9:02 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 July 2020 11:32:04 David Wright wrote:
>
>> On Tue 07 Jul 2020 at 10:06:08 (-0400), rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, July 07, 2020 09:57:54 AM Greg Wooledge wrote:
>>>> If you are the kind of person who MUST HAVE THE LATEST THING, then
>>>> Debian is not meant for you.
>>> Wow, not sure what sparked that response,
>> Probably the fact that there have been a lot of postings about testing
>> recently, which seem to think testing is whatever they want it to be.
>> For example, the thread on testing's imaginary "security policy".
>>
>>> but I will say one thing, you might
>>> run testing if your bank insists you have the latest thing
>>> (browser).
>> Yeh, right. Use the suite that's lacking a security policy to carry
>> out all your financial transactions. ?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David.
> I'd tend to look at it like this: If the banks IT people think its a big
> enough risk to use the old version, and demands the new one even before
> the paint is dry, then it must be pretty serious and the distros should
> turn up the heat to get it out into the users hands asap. Not sit on it
> till the next release a year hence as seems to happen now, using the
> excuse that it is a new feature and that has to wait for the next
> chapter of the release cycle.
I had that conversation with the IT goofball for my bank (credit union) 
last Monday and Tuesday when they "updated" their crapware and blocked me.

it was far from painless but a couple links to the security statements 
in the Debian Wiki was enough to get a complete backpedal and endorse 
Debian Stable with Firefox-ESR.
Please don't use them as a barometer.

>
> Unfortunately, the public is now so used to some so-called expert crying
> wolf when its a mongrel puppy, that they've gone to the dark side and
> are no longer making that noise in hopes the black hats will be slowed
> in exploiting the newly found vulnerability. So we are left in the
> dark. 'scuse me?
>
> So we the users, are damned if we do, and damned if we don't.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

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  Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-07-07 00:30 +0200
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    Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Keith bainbridge <keithrbau@gmail.com> - 2020-07-07 05:50 +0200
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  Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Bob Weber <bobrweber@gmail.com> - 2020-07-07 02:10 +0200
    Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2020-07-07 05:40 +0200
      Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-07 09:00 +0200
        Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2020-07-07 15:50 +0200
          Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-07 16:00 +0200
            Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-07 16:10 +0200
              Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-07 16:30 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-07-08 17:20 +0200
              Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-07 17:40 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-07-07 18:10 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-07 18:10 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed  John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-07-07 18:40 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-07 19:30 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-07 19:40 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed John Hasler <jhasler@newsguy.com> - 2020-07-07 19:50 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2020-07-08 23:20 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Peter Ehlert <peter@sdi-baja.com> - 2020-07-07 18:50 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2020-07-07 19:30 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-07-07 21:20 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2020-07-07 21:40 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-07-07 23:30 +0200
            Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Gary Dale <gary@extremeground.com> - 2020-07-07 22:30 +0200
              Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-07-07 22:50 +0200
              Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2020-07-07 23:00 +0200
              Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-07-07 23:10 +0200
                Re: Firefox non-ESR update needed davidson <davidson@freevolt.org> - 2020-07-07 23:50 +0200
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