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Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

From Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu
Date 2020-09-10 20:20 +0200
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 07:34:24PM +0200, Marco Möller wrote:
>I agree with Richard's criticism and would suggest to not present that 
>first line "Debian desktop environment" at all, because it is 
>redundant with the second line "... GNOME". If someone deselects the 
>second line because no wanting GNOME, but does not image what the 
>first line might contain, then he will be surprised that GNOME became 
>anyway fully installed after the first line was still selected, a 
>behaviour which makes no sense after the second line was explicitly 
>not selected. It is especially annoying if you did this selection 
>"mistake" on slow or expensive bandwidth. When I first time did this 
>mistake, I thought, hey, maybe for a desktop they will install already 
>something like network manager and other network managing tools or a 
>tiny collection of enhanced editors like vim instead of vi only, maybe 
>some other cute utilities. But I ended up with looong time downloading 
>and installing a full blown GNOME which I actually wanted to avoid and 
>therefore did unselect the second line initially.

People are overthinking this. If you want more control, just skip the 
software selection screen altogether. If you're going to nit-pick over 
what gets installed when using it, you aren't the target audience.

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LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-09 15:30 +0200
  Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Andrew Cater <amacater@gmail.com> - 2020-09-09 16:30 +0200
  Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-09 16:40 +0200
    Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-09 17:00 +0200
      Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-10 05:40 +0200
        Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-10 08:00 +0200
          Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 08:20 +0200
            Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2020-09-10 12:10 +0200
            Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-10 14:50 +0200
              Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 16:30 +0200
              Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David <bouncingcats@gmail.com> - 2020-09-11 05:00 +0200
    Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-09 19:10 +0200
      Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-10 08:10 +0200
  Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-09 19:00 +0200
    Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-09 19:20 +0200
      Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-10 08:20 +0200
        Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-09-10 09:30 +0200
          Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-10 15:30 +0200
            Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-10 18:50 +0200
              Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-09-10 19:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-10 20:00 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-10 20:20 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-10 20:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2020-09-10 23:00 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-10 22:00 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY <noon@mykolab.com> - 2020-09-11 22:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-12 11:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-12 12:00 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-09-12 12:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-12 20:10 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-09-12 20:30 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-12 20:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-12 22:30 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-12 21:10 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-14 14:20 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-14 16:10 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY <noon@mykolab.com> - 2020-09-15 21:30 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-16 01:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-16 02:00 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> - 2020-09-16 06:00 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-16 10:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-16 11:00 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-16 14:30 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-16 15:20 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-16 17:10 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-17 02:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-09-17 09:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-17 21:00 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-17 22:10 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-17 23:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-18 11:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-18 14:20 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-18 15:20 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Marco Möller <talby@debianlists.mobilxpress.net> - 2020-09-17 22:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-17 23:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2020-09-18 13:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-18 15:30 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu rhkramer@gmail.com - 2020-09-18 17:10 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY <noon@mykolab.com> - 2020-09-18 19:20 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-19 13:20 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-19 21:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> - 2020-09-21 07:50 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2020-09-21 13:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2020-09-21 17:20 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2020-09-21 21:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Leslie Rhorer <lesrhorer@att.net> - 2020-09-20 07:30 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2020-09-18 11:40 +0200
                Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY <noon@mykolab.com> - 2020-09-18 12:40 +0200
  Re: LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 23:40 +0200

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