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Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team

From Anthony DeRobertis <anthony@derobert.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team
Date 2020-02-20 01:30 +0100
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On 2/19/20 2:00 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> At the risk of poking a little fun at recent US politics: this _really really_
> reads as a /quid pro quo/.

Not really; a quid pro quo there means more than the literal "something 
for something". Otherwise going to the grocery store and buying an apple 
is quid pro quo; perhaps you can use the term like that, but then it 
loses any negative connotation.

The negative connotation one requires there be some corruption. For 
example, an officer of a company is required to act in that company's 
interest, not the officer's own personal interest. If that officer were 
to select bids based on which vendor paid the officer him/herself the 
most (as opposed to which benefited the company), that'd be corrupt. The 
underlying problem is that violation of the duty to the company. That's 
the type of quid pro quo that has been argued about in recent US politics.

Here, it seems pretty clear that Sam is working to benefit Debian, not 
himself. The DPL trying to get things of value for Debian is not 
corrupt, it's part of his job.

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Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Sam Hartman <leader@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 16:20 +0100
  Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Matthew Vernon <matthewv@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-02-19 17:30 +0100
  Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 20:10 +0100
    Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not  the DC20 Team Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-02-19 20:10 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not  the DC20 Team Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2020-02-19 20:30 +0100
    Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 20:10 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the  DC20 Team Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 20:40 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 20:50 +0100
    Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the  DC20 Team Anthony DeRobertis <anthony@derobert.net> - 2020-02-20 01:30 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 08:40 +0100
        Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the  DC20 Team Daniel Baumann <daniel@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 08:50 +0100
  Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the  DC20 Team Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <phls@debian.org> - 2020-02-19 20:50 +0100
  Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Didier 'OdyX' Raboud <odyx@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 08:30 +0100
    Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 10:10 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not  the DC20 Team Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 10:30 +0100
        Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 10:40 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-02-20 13:00 +0100
        Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the  DC20 Team Felix Lechner <felix.lechner@lease-up.com> - 2020-02-20 14:10 +0100
          Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the  DC20 Team Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2020-02-20 18:20 +0100
            Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not  the DC20 Team Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 20:00 +0100
              Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 20:40 +0100
                Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not  the DC20 Team Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tvaz@riseup.net> - 2020-02-20 21:10 +0100
        Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not  the DC20 Team Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 18:10 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the  DC20 Team Jack Warkentin <jwark@bellaliant.net> - 2020-02-20 18:00 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team micah anderson <micah@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 22:00 +0100
        Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Ansgar <ansgar@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 22:00 +0100
    Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 14:50 +0100
      Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the  DC20 Team Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 20:00 +0100
  Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not  the DC20 Team Dato Simó <dato@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 17:20 +0100
    Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not  the DC20 Team Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2020-02-20 17:40 +0100

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