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| From | Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.project |
| Subject | Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money |
| Date | 2019-06-01 16:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <y4dkR-1mg-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On Sat, Jun 01, 2019 at 09:09:26AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "Adrian" == Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> writes:
>
> >>
> >> Talking about the issues involved in paying people to do work.
> >> What the options are, collecting people's concerns etc.
> >>
> >> I actually think the first round of that can be done without
> >> significant access to numbers.
> >>
> >> That said, I'd sure like that anual report (actually I'd love it
> >> quarterly) you speak of above. I'm not volunteering. Are you?
>
> Adrian> My biggest high level concern is the income side, since this
> Adrian> is the most difficult part and will likely also be the most
> Adrian> controversial one.
>
>
> Ah, I was actually asking if you wanted to volunteer to work on the
> reports since you seemed to value them. I was only one quarter serious:
> if you did want to do that work, I'd be thrilled, but I didn't really
> expect it.
Ah, seems I misunderstood that.
Yes, I could work on the reports if you tell me how to get access
to the data from the trusted organizations.
>From SPI I get the reports, but for the other I have no clue.
> I think it's actually impossible for a non-profit to reduce income from
> expenses.
>
> It's a lot easier to do fund raising when you can explain why you want
> the money.
> I think it's no accident that when people learned our sysadmin team no
> longer had hardware donors and was considering how expensive continuing
> their current strategy was, we got two very large donations, one of them
> intended to make that possible.
>
> Yeah, unless you want debt (which we almost certainly do not), income
> needs to lead expenses.
> But when people see you spending their money for purposes they believe
> in, it's easier for them to give you more. When they understand your
> needs they give more.
>...
This works well for one-time investments,
but less so for ongoing expenses like salaries.
It reminds me of NGOs that get drowned in more money than they can spend
earmarked for a catastrophe that is in the news, but struggle to get
enough money for running their headquarter.
> --Sam
cu
Adrian
--
"Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
"Only a promise," Lao Er said.
Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed
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Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 01:00 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2019-06-01 23:00 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-06-02 00:20 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-06-02 15:50 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-05-31 23:40 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 00:30 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 01:10 +0200
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Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Ximin Luo <infinity0@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 06:20 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> - 2019-06-01 13:00 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Luca Filipozzi <lfilipoz@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 17:40 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2019-06-01 18:20 +0200
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Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Eldon Koyle <ekoyle@gmail.com> - 2019-06-01 07:50 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 11:50 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Ondřej Surý <ondrej@sury.org> - 2019-06-01 09:00 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 15:10 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2019-06-04 02:40 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-06-04 02:50 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Antonio Terceiro <terceiro@debian.org> - 2019-06-04 14:30 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Sam Hartman <leader@debian.org> - 2019-06-14 12:40 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Sam Hartman <leader@debian.org> - 2019-06-15 15:10 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2019-06-04 16:30 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2019-06-05 23:40 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 11:40 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Judit Foglszinger <fgrfgr@freenet.de> - 2019-06-01 12:50 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 20:00 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Jonathan Carter <jcc@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 20:10 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 20:20 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 15:10 +0200
Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2019-06-01 16:40 +0200
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