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Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC

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Hi Shirish, all

Sorry for the delay in coming back to this.

Finally, after reading the whole thread about this topic, and with
my anti-harassment team hat on, I can say that we acknowledge that
Shirish is not a harasser and we acknowledge his current efforts to
participate in creating a more inclusive and welcoming environment
in Debian.

Thus, I've proposed the Debian Planet Team to reenable the new
feed he specifically provided for the planet.

Shirish, I hope we can read you back in Planet Debian soon.

Best regards

Laura Arjona Reina
https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona


El 08/04/17 a las 06:23, shirish शिरीष escribió:
> Reply in-line -
> 
> On 08/04/2017, Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> wrote:
>> Le Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 03:00:10PM +0530, shirish शिरीष a
>> écrit :
>>> 
>>> Could you or anybody else please share even if 
>>> unintentionally, I have been demeaning to anybody in my 
>>> writings. While I have repeatedly apologized, I would like
>>> to know where I have demeaned people. Everybody is welcome
>>> to point to me either publicly or privately what is/was 
>>> demeaning in my writing.
>> 
>> Hi Shirish and everybody,
>> 
> 
> Hi Charles,
> 
>> I think that there is a broad consensus that the core problem 
>> is the image that you included, not the writings.
>> 
>> On my side, do trust you that you did not intend to hurt 
>> anybody, and that you did not intend the use of this image to 
>> be eye-catching to attract readers, nor to convey derogatory 
>> messages about women.  But Debian is a very broad community,
>> so if you are told that the image has made Debian less
>> welcoming than it should, and that it has put people at risk to
>> lose their jobs, you (and > me) have to trust that.
>> 
> 
> I understand both the concerns which have been bought and shared 
> before.
> 
>> If I could sugest a good way out of this situation, it would
>> be that you acknowledge (briefly) that you understood that
>> images are sensitive materials that have much more potential to
>> harm others than just plain text, >and that you will be careful
>> in the future.  In return, I think that it would fair if the 
>> anti-harassment team would also acknowledge that you are not a
>>> harrasser,to cleary any possible misunderstanding if a third
>> party stumbles in     > the archives of this discussion at
>> some point in the future.
>> 
> 
> I do acknowledge that images have more potential to harm others,
>  although I believe in exact opposite that words have both the 
> power to heal and burn in ways images never can.
> 
> Nevertheless, I did say sorry in 
> https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2017/04/06/the-fatalistic-att
itude/
>
>
>
>
> 
but if there is anything more that is needed to be done by me which
> will make amends I'm ready to do that. If it is simply to 
> ackowledge here on the mailing list, have done that. If it is to 
> acknowledge on another blog post that my choice of picture was 
> not great and be more sensitive in choosing pictures am ready to 
> do that as well.
> 
> For my part, I also tried asking the same question in 
> https://en.forums.wordpress.com/topic/is-there-a-way-to-make-photos-
covered-or-content-covered?
>
>
>
>
> 
But as can be seen no one has bothered to reply as of yet. I
> would probably use webapps.stackexchange.com to see if some sort 
> of technical solution is also available that could be used as 
> well.
> 
> I believe the ideal solution would be a mix of both social and 
> technical solution .
> 
> As an aside, yesterday, I just registered and tried hex.bz which 
> is a public instance of mastodon and saw there is a neat CW 
> (Content Warning) code which hides content and if people want to 
> make a choice to still see the content then they are 
> responsible.
> 
>> Have a nice week-end,
>> 
> 
> The same to you as well sir.
> 
>> -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan
>> 
> 
> 

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Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of  documentation and CoC shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 22:10 +0200
  Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 00:40 +0200
  Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 04:20 +0200
    Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2017-04-06 13:30 +0200
    Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 17:50 +0200
  Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 07:00 +0200
    Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC Enrico Zini <enrico@enricozini.org> - 2017-04-06 13:30 +0200
    Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC alberto fuentes <pajaro@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 13:40 +0200
      Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC Lars Wirzenius <liw@liw.fi> - 2017-04-06 13:50 +0200
        Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC alberto fuentes <pajaro@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 14:00 +0200
          Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 15:00 +0200
      Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 20:30 +0200
        Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 00:10 +0200
          Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2017-04-07 09:30 +0200
            Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com> - 2017-04-07 11:40 +0200
              Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2017-04-08 03:00 +0200
                Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com> - 2017-04-08 06:30 +0200
                Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com> - 2017-04-09 08:00 +0200
                Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC Laura Arjona Reina <larjona@debian.org> - 2017-04-27 19:50 +0200
  Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC Laura Arjona Reina <larjona@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 14:40 +0200
    Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution  of documentation and CoC shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 16:50 +0200
      Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of documentation and CoC Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2017-04-06 18:00 +0200
  Re: Inappropriate content on planet.debian.org and need of evolution of  documentation and CoC Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2017-04-06 20:00 +0200

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