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  Move python-libusb1 from NEW/Unstable debianbugs@felinefamily.org - 2020-05-24 02:30 +0200
    Re: Move python-libusb1 from NEW/Unstable Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org> - 2020-05-24 11:00 +0200
      Re: Move python-libusb1 from NEW/Unstable Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2020-05-25 09:10 +0200

#12612 — Move python-libusb1 from NEW/Unstable

Hello all-

I’m working with the TAILS team to get the updated python-trezor back ported to Debian 10. It is currently held up by its dependency python-libusb1. The package maintainer, Arnoud Fountaine uploaded the fix to the last bug a week or so ago but it’s been stuck in the NEW queue ever since. Is there anyone that can approve it so it can get moved to Sid, with the intention of it subsequently progressing to testing after the requisite wait?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Mike

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On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 05:03:50PM -0700, debianbugs@felinefamily.org wrote:
> The package maintainer, Arnoud Fountaine uploaded the fix to the last
> bug a week or so ago but it’s been stuck in the NEW queue ever since.
> Is there anyone that can approve it so it can get moved to Sid

NEW is a manual process from the ftp-team.
It can take from a few hours up to months, and it's not really something
that can be prodded just to have a quicker backports.
The queue is processed in a non specified order, and you can see it
here: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html

*Usually* (not always!), if it's a small packages it is processed quite
quickly, but poking the ftp team before not even a month has passed
without a good reason (for example, it's blocking an RC bug fix) is just
inappropriate.

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Hello Mattia,

On Sun, 24 May 2020, Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 05:03:50PM -0700, debianbugs@felinefamily.org wrote:
> > The package maintainer, Arnoud Fountaine uploaded the fix to the last
> > bug a week or so ago but it’s been stuck in the NEW queue ever since.
> > Is there anyone that can approve it so it can get moved to Sid
> 
> NEW is a manual process from the ftp-team.
> It can take from a few hours up to months, and it's not really something
> that can be prodded just to have a quicker backports.
> The queue is processed in a non specified order, and you can see it
> here: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
> 
> *Usually* (not always!), if it's a small packages it is processed quite
> quickly, but poking the ftp team before not even a month has passed
> without a good reason (for example, it's blocking an RC bug fix) is just
> inappropriate.

I don't agree with your assessment. A month is a very long time and I have
prodded members of the FTP team way earlier than that when I had a reason.
And here a reason was given. I don't really see why you judge that reason
to not be a good reason.

Any reason which ends up as "it's blocking further work" is a good reason
IMO.

Mattia, I really appreciate what you have been doing in Debian but at
times I have the feeling that you keep alive the idea that some of the
most glaring deficiencies of Debian are "normal".

Please try to show some compassion to other contributors when they are
stuck. To me, the above response sounded like "yeah, that's normal, don't
complain, it's inappropriate". It would have been much better if it had
been worded as « It's unfortunate that this is blocking your work but
NEW is a manual process.... <skip explanation>
To speed up the process, you can try to prod ftpmasters on #debian-ftp
explaning your reason why you need it. I'm not convinced that a backport
passes the threshold justifying such a prod but you can always try. »

Cheers,
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