Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Raphael Hertzog Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Move python-libusb1 from NEW/Unstable Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:10:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon May 25 07:09:13 2020 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.2 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, BODY_8BITS=1.5, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, PGPSIGNATURE=-5, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Originating-IP: 109.190.218.133 Mail-Followup-To: Raphael Hertzog , debianbugs@felinefamily.org, debian-python@lists.debian.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18320 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20200525070857.GA421681@home.ouaza.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 75 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Mon, 25 May 2020 09:08:57 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <20200525070857.GA421681@home.ouaza.com> X-Original-References: <6D50C3DF-2D19-4E64-9811-60B02543EE17@felinefamily.org> <20200524085027.GF1318501@mapreri.org> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:12616 --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mattia, On Sun, 24 May 2020, Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 05:03:50PM -0700, debianbugs@felinefamily.org wro= te: > > The package maintainer, Arnoud Fountaine uploaded the fix to the last > > bug a week or so ago but it=E2=80=99s been stuck in the NEW queue ever = since. > > Is there anyone that can approve it so it can get moved to Sid >=20 > NEW is a manual process from the ftp-team. > It can take from a few hours up to months, and it's not really something > that can be prodded just to have a quicker backports. > The queue is processed in a non specified order, and you can see it > here: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html >=20 > *Usually* (not always!), if it's a small packages it is processed quite > quickly, but poking the ftp team before not even a month has passed > without a good reason (for example, it's blocking an RC bug fix) is just > inappropriate. I don't agree with your assessment. A month is a very long time and I have prodded members of the FTP team way earlier than that when I had a reason. And here a reason was given. I don't really see why you judge that reason to not be a good reason. Any reason which ends up as "it's blocking further work" is a good reason IMO. Mattia, I really appreciate what you have been doing in Debian but at times I have the feeling that you keep alive the idea that some of the most glaring deficiencies of Debian are "normal". Please try to show some compassion to other contributors when they are stuck. To me, the above response sounded like "yeah, that's normal, don't complain, it's inappropriate". It would have been much better if it had been worded as =C2=AB It's unfortunate that this is blocking your work but NEW is a manual process.... To speed up the process, you can try to prod ftpmasters on #debian-ftp explaning your reason why you need it. I'm not convinced that a backport passes the threshold justifying such a prod but you can always try. =C2=BB Cheers, --=20 =E2=A2=80=E2=A3=B4=E2=A0=BE=E2=A0=BB=E2=A2=B6=E2=A3=A6=E2=A0=80 Rapha= =C3=ABl Hertzog =E2=A3=BE=E2=A0=81=E2=A2=A0=E2=A0=92=E2=A0=80=E2=A3=BF=E2=A1=81 =E2=A2=BF=E2=A1=84=E2=A0=98=E2=A0=B7=E2=A0=9A=E2=A0=8B The Debian Hand= book: https://debian-handbook.info/get/ =E2=A0=88=E2=A0=B3=E2=A3=84=E2=A0=80=E2=A0=80=E2=A0=80=E2=A0=80 Debian = Long Term Support: https://deb.li/LTS --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: Signed by Raphael Hertzog iQEzBAABCgAdFiEE1823g1EQnhJ1LsbSA4gdq+vCmrkFAl7LbwgACgkQA4gdq+vC mrmuMwf/V3ncGzyixKi24ePgZKTYIG2l+T5rfuJLtdHBs0sua2ayHkfdZXmwQ416 pj/XBNafn7B7pm/x/k/IodzQmceVhtOknO3W6RNZLPWgHMBX/8dgoVKz4C5eByLF ULk0WqFJx1nHFLYb6XVx+yL4NOEKubUp4lW5xiTWxw4FPbEZ3QdL/RhyB5ZixZsy 6ec6rUitAPsMXPns6U5svmNIvb+KMQX2LlCEea7UphNdqXIJD0VYSpk3XsVAp0Xc //pdilw2UVtPbvGQzUirqsfLosXtuZ1L0+0D1QoRkl9sw8XUmIL1zglKSFWyWCeT sppYhA+D9tfpkxTr09oMBoAfmzGO2g== =bwJE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH--