Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > linux.debian.maint.python > #11734
| Path | csiph.com!4.us.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.albasani.net!tahina.priv.at!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod |
|---|---|
| From | Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> |
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.maint.python |
| Subject | Re: Python 3 transition question |
| Date | Mon, 02 Sep 2019 07:10:01 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <yBMLf-1kA-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <yBE1j-3Nu-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <yBHVf-6hY-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <yBLPc-FI-11@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| X-Mailbox-Line | From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon Sep 2 05:08:29 2019 |
| Old-Return-Path | <debian@kitterman.com> |
| X-Amavis-Spam-Status | No, score=-7.1 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no |
| X-Policyd-Weight | using cached result; rate: -5.5 |
| Dkim-Signature | v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903e; t=1567400864; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : cc : from : message-id : from; bh=ZchdatTFhthOVf7rsIirkCY0oZKIWcW41PDlS99ymbQ=; b=xArff+MM3OLHK2gfoP7VoEykvSPhpKfcci6sZ/IhDvYBCIKA8rmG1Mz4 855mYdKIwJL9ymM125layxqe7ApJDw== |
| Dkim-Signature | v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903r; t=1567400864; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : cc : from : message-id : from; bh=ZchdatTFhthOVf7rsIirkCY0oZKIWcW41PDlS99ymbQ=; b=m2THf62X9gY7LP5M9DGCcf2RdzWpLH+sa/HQTfDma9GOfa6p7ANQO9Cy aLrFlS6kcjV2slCG311GRviGUvjdQ3EvkKNdNPLpq5ie5vIM8qfJkU5Q2+ No3yVQA5EBz68cf9D31kBqIxF8WvHcaR6XCiNCFMr1oNONTZMw1rbjrAUS 6EETwVxpp/1+Ms/sMLaCdDw4Uid9+CWZFzN8+K/LDt08dfq+CfFppOOilm B4uPBoxU6L8azdvwql7iL6E5R8Oj+DwPXoysRTgEaMLXvtolQD6JGVo7b6 x9UQEiOACoQgPazJo5GaPVlwU6saCDN2k7SFXRtx3RYtXaNXX/jcJQ== |
| MIME-Version | 1.0 |
| Content-Type | text/plain; charset=utf-8 |
| Content-Transfer-Encoding | quoted-printable |
| X-Mailing-List | <debian-python@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/17250 |
| List-ID | <debian-python.lists.debian.org> |
| List-URL | <https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/> |
| List-Archive | https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/C6EFC834-DC31-4A5C-B239-B3128FE67CA1@kitterman.com |
| Approved | robomod@news.nic.it |
| Lines | 32 |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
| Sender | robomod@news.nic.it |
| X-Original-Cc | Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> |
| X-Original-Date | Mon, 02 Sep 2019 05:07:43 +0000 |
| X-Original-Message-ID | <C6EFC834-DC31-4A5C-B239-B3128FE67CA1@kitterman.com> |
| X-Original-References | <31e75f08-0b3e-c174-4de1-9d0957b21c78@martingkelly.com> <bb8bf0d0-3f03-7c36-6ed3-33b582609ced@debian.org> <CAB4XWXwsO7dfLNeLdYbQxjurd=KoVSYwPbBu9sa73R0Lyz75Jg@mail.gmail.com> |
| Xref | csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11734 |
Show key headers only | View raw
On September 2, 2019 4:00:53 AM UTC, Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> wrote: >> I would just stop building these. And if the reverse dependencies >have a >> py2removal bug itself, then comment in these issues that the >> suggested/recommended package gets removed. If they don't have a >py2removal >> bug, please file the bugs for these packages. > >i dont believe this is a sensible approach; for example i maintain >python-mpmath, that would be rendered uninstallable the moment >python-gmp2 is removed. Now, python-mpmath has 3 external >reverse-dependencies (just to name a couple, sagemath and simpy) that >would be then uninstallable, and so on and so forth for all their >rdeps. > >Martin, i think for now the only option is to keep the py2 packages >around until we're ready to drop them (ie they have 0 rdeps). I just checked on packages.d.o and according to it, python-gmp2 is a Suggests. Suggests aren't installed with packages. Unless I'm missing something, python-mpmath wouldn't become uninstallable. IIRC, policy doesn't even require Suggests packages to exist. I agree about keeping packages as long as they have reverse Recommends, but I think Suggests is going too far (although AIUI, missing Recommends don't make the package uninstallable either). Scott K
Back to linux.debian.maint.python | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread
Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-01 21:50 +0200
Re: Python 3 transition question Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2019-09-02 02:00 +0200
Re: Python 3 transition question Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2019-09-02 06:10 +0200
Re: Python 3 transition question Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2019-09-02 07:10 +0200
Re: Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-02 22:20 +0200
Re: Python 3 transition question Martin Kelly <martin@martingkelly.com> - 2019-09-05 01:00 +0200
csiph-web