Path: csiph.com!4.us.feeder.erje.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.albasani.net!tahina.priv.at!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Scott Kitterman Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Python 3 transition question Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 07:10:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Mon Sep 2 05:08:29 2019 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FOURLA=0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Policyd-Weight: using cached result; rate: -5.5 Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903e; t=1567400864; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : cc : from : message-id : from; bh=ZchdatTFhthOVf7rsIirkCY0oZKIWcW41PDlS99ymbQ=; b=xArff+MM3OLHK2gfoP7VoEykvSPhpKfcci6sZ/IhDvYBCIKA8rmG1Mz4 855mYdKIwJL9ymM125layxqe7ApJDw== Dkim-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kitterman.com; i=@kitterman.com; q=dns/txt; s=201903r; t=1567400864; h=date : in-reply-to : references : mime-version : content-type : content-transfer-encoding : subject : to : cc : from : message-id : from; bh=ZchdatTFhthOVf7rsIirkCY0oZKIWcW41PDlS99ymbQ=; b=m2THf62X9gY7LP5M9DGCcf2RdzWpLH+sa/HQTfDma9GOfa6p7ANQO9Cy aLrFlS6kcjV2slCG311GRviGUvjdQ3EvkKNdNPLpq5ie5vIM8qfJkU5Q2+ No3yVQA5EBz68cf9D31kBqIxF8WvHcaR6XCiNCFMr1oNONTZMw1rbjrAUS 6EETwVxpp/1+Ms/sMLaCdDw4Uid9+CWZFzN8+K/LDt08dfq+CfFppOOilm B4uPBoxU6L8azdvwql7iL6E5R8Oj+DwPXoysRTgEaMLXvtolQD6JGVo7b6 x9UQEiOACoQgPazJo5GaPVlwU6saCDN2k7SFXRtx3RYtXaNXX/jcJQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/17250 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/C6EFC834-DC31-4A5C-B239-B3128FE67CA1@kitterman.com Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 32 Organization: linux.* mail to news gateway Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Cc: Martin Kelly X-Original-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2019 05:07:43 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-References: <31e75f08-0b3e-c174-4de1-9d0957b21c78@martingkelly.com> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:11734 On September 2, 2019 4:00:53 AM UTC, Sandro Tosi wrot= e: >> I would just stop building these=2E And if the reverse dependencies >have a >> py2removal bug itself, then comment in these issues that the >> suggested/recommended package gets removed=2E If they don't have a >py2removal >> bug, please file the bugs for these packages=2E > >i dont believe this is a sensible approach; for example i maintain >python-mpmath, that would be rendered uninstallable the moment >python-gmp2 is removed=2E Now, python-mpmath has 3 external >reverse-dependencies (just to name a couple, sagemath and simpy) that >would be then uninstallable, and so on and so forth for all their >rdeps=2E > >Martin, i think for now the only option is to keep the py2 packages >around until we're ready to drop them (ie they have 0 rdeps)=2E I just checked on packages=2Ed=2Eo and according to it, python-gmp2 is a S= uggests=2E Suggests aren't installed with packages=2E Unless I'm missing = something, python-mpmath wouldn't become uninstallable=2E IIRC, policy doesn't even require Suggests packages to exist=2E I agree about keeping packages as long as they have reverse Recommends, bu= t I think Suggests is going too far (although AIUI, missing Recommends don'= t make the package uninstallable either)=2E Scott K