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Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas

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From Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org>
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Subject Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas
Date Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:00:01 +0200
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Hi Diane & other science+python people,

Thanks for spending time on pandas and statsmodels. They are two very valuable 
but very painful packages to work on.

I've not looked at pandas and statsmodels packages carefully beyond "why 
hasn't pandas migrated this time!?" investigations but the circular 
relationship between pandas and statsmodels and its associated problems has 
come up several times before. It seems to be an on-going point of pain that 
sucks in quite a lot of developer time.

On Saturday, 16 September 2017 14:18:10 AEST Diane Trout wrote:
> My solution was to use build-profiles to flag the test dependency with
> !nocheck

this is, of course, a very elegant solution and exactly what build profiles 
are for...

I wonder though, is it really sustainable given this problem keeps coming up?

For the maintainer upload, you can do this bootstrapping with build profiles. 
For other archs, however, I don't believe we can tell the buildd to use build 
profiles so we'd need it to built by hand on porter boxes for every arch and 
then uploaded.

Is it feaible to completely break this circular dependency? If it is only 
needed for tests, would be possible to disable the build-time tests and rely 
on the tests run on ci.d.n instead? If it's used for generating documentation 
too, then would creating a separate source package for the documentation that 
build-depends on statsmodels and pandas be possible such that there is now no 
circular dependency?

(thinking aloud)

cheers
Stuart


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  Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org> - 2017-09-06 22:40 +0200
    Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org> - 2017-09-06 23:00 +0200
      Bug#729956: git-dpm (was Re: Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream) Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org> - 2017-09-06 23:20 +0200
        Re: git-dpm (was Re: Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream) Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-09-07 00:50 +0200
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            Re: git-dpm (was Re: Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream) Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org> - 2017-09-08 00:50 +0200
          Re: git-dpm (was Re: Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream) Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2017-09-07 01:30 +0200
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              Re: git-dpm (was Re: Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream) Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> - 2017-09-07 07:30 +0200
  Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-07 00:30 +0200
    Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2017-09-07 06:20 +0200
    Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-07 06:30 +0200
      Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-07 06:40 +0200
        Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-07 08:40 +0200
          Bug#729956: Forwarded upstream Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-08 08:40 +0200
  Bug#729956: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-16 22:50 +0200
    Bug#729956: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org> - 2017-09-16 23:10 +0200
      Bug#729956: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-16 23:30 +0200
        Bug#729956: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org> - 2017-09-17 00:00 +0200
          Re: skimage (was: Re: Bug#729956: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas) Yaroslav Halchenko <yoh@debian.org> - 2017-10-13 00:10 +0200
          skimage (was: Re: Bug#729956: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas) Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@thregr.org> - 2017-10-13 00:40 +0200
        Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org> - 2017-09-18 04:00 +0200
          Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-18 07:20 +0200
            Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org> - 2017-09-18 10:10 +0200
              Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Gordon Ball <gordon@chronitis.net> - 2017-09-18 19:30 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2017-09-18 21:30 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-19 06:50 +0200
              Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-21 16:30 +0200
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                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yaroslav Halchenko <debian@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-22 04:30 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-22 07:20 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-24 20:30 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@fam-tille.de> - 2017-09-25 00:10 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yaroslav Halchenko <debian@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-25 01:00 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-25 01:20 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-25 08:50 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-25 09:50 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-25 19:40 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-25 19:50 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-26 06:40 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@fam-tille.de> - 2017-09-26 09:20 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-26 20:40 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yaroslav Halchenko <debian@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-26 22:50 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-26 23:00 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-26 23:50 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@fam-tille.de> - 2017-09-27 08:20 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-27 07:50 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@fam-tille.de> - 2017-09-27 09:00 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-27 09:30 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-27 10:10 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-27 12:20 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas "Rebecca N. Palmer" <rebecca_palmer@zoho.com> - 2017-09-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-30 01:00 +0200
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                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-09-30 11:20 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2017-09-30 11:30 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-30 18:00 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas "Rebecca N. Palmer" <rebecca_palmer@zoho.com> - 2017-09-30 18:40 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-22 08:20 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yaroslav Halchenko <debian@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-23 16:10 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2017-09-24 13:30 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yaroslav Halchenko <debian@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-25 01:00 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yaroslav Halchenko <yoh@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-22 00:20 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2017-09-22 11:00 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-09-22 21:40 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-09-23 11:50 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Yaroslav Halchenko <debian@onerussian.com> - 2017-09-23 16:00 +0200
                Re: Python 3 Statsmodels & Pandas Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2017-09-25 11:20 +0200
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