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Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow

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On 08/06/2017 09:15 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2017-08-06 20:00:59 +0100 (+0100), Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
> [...]
>> You'd still have to clean the pre-built files, since they would be
>> overwritten by the build system and therefore dpkg-buildpackage
>> would complain if you run the build twice.
>>
>> So, you might as well just exclude them from the source straight
>> away, no?
> 
> Repacking an upstream tarball just to avoid needing to tell
> dh_install not to copy files from a particular path into the binary
> package seems the wrong way around to me

What's wrong is for upstream to pretend that one tarball / archive is
its released source, when in fact it contains binary / generated files.

A source tarball / archive from upstream must contain *only* source
code, nothing else. If it contains anything that comes from the original
source, then it's additional pain for the package maintainer.

> but maybe I'm missing
> something which makes that particularly complicated? This comes up
> on debian-mentors all the time, and the general advice is to avoid
> repacking tarballs unless there's a policy violation or you can get
> substantial (like in the >50% range) reduction in size on especially
> huge upstream tarballs.

That's one view, probably motivated by the fact it's probably easier to
deal with in the long run. However convenient it may be, I don't think
it feels "clean".

And by the way, when it comes to the OpenStack stuff, FTP masters have
already expressed their dislike of the upstream ChangeLog: it is a *WAY*
to big, at the level of megabytes sometimes, and it may appear in .deb
files that would otherwise be a few kilobytes. All this isn't new...

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net> - 2017-08-06 17:00 +0200
  Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2017-08-06 18:10 +0200
    Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-06 18:30 +0200
      Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2017-08-06 20:30 +0200
        Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2017-08-06 21:00 +0200
          Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 21:10 +0200
            Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2017-08-06 21:20 +0200
              Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-09-04 00:00 +0200
          Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Ondrej Novy <novy@ondrej.org> - 2017-08-06 23:50 +0200
            Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Jeremy Stanley <fungi@yuggoth.org> - 2017-08-07 00:30 +0200
              Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-09-04 00:20 +0200
            Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-07 05:00 +0200
          Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2017-08-07 16:50 +0200
          Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-08-08 00:20 +0200
            Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-08 01:20 +0200
        Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-06 21:00 +0200
          Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Ghislain Vaillant <ghisvail@gmail.com> - 2017-08-06 21:10 +0200
        Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-08-07 20:00 +0200
    Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2017-09-04 00:00 +0200
  Re: a few quick questions on gbp pq workflow Brian May <bam@debian.org> - 2017-08-07 01:10 +0200

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