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| From | Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.maint.python |
| Subject | Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage |
| Date | 2017-08-08 06:00 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <uc3Qu-2ba-9@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | (9 earlier) <uc1Ym-HL-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <uc2hI-1b4-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <uc345-1QI-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <uc3nr-1Z5-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <uc3x8-23L-5@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | linux.* mail to news gateway |
Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> writes: > On Tue, 2017-08-08 at 13:24 +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > > > Those people, not party [to] this conversation, have reasonable > > expectation that such breakage will not happen without very good > > reason. > > Good reason would entail, as an example, that there is no better > > alternative. > > Why not ask? Ask whom? Because the issue is about the expectations of those who *don't want* to be bothered by technical discussions like this, asking those few who make themselves available for such questions will not resolve the issue. At best, we would have a collection of anecdotes and no idea how representative they are of those who choose not to be contactable (but still expect Debian to avoid breaking things unnecessarily). At worst, we would have a collection of anecdotes that would be a strong temptation for *falsely assuming* they represent the silent majority. Barry, earlier in this thread, was correct when he pointed out that, by the nature of the issue, we *can't* know with confidence what the majority of people expect about this change. So IMO the conservative assumption is that they expect Debian to provide the stability it is famous for, and not to break the behaviour of commands unnecessarily. -- \ “Some people have a problem, and they think “I know, I'll use | `\ Perl!”. Now they have some number of problems but they're not | _o__) sure whether it's a string or an integer.” —Benno Rice, 2011 | Ben Finney
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MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2017-08-04 00:00 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage barry@debian.org - 2017-08-04 03:10 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-04 05:30 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Piotr Ożarowski <piotr@debian.org> - 2017-08-04 08:10 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage barry@debian.org - 2017-08-04 16:20 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2017-08-04 17:10 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-08-04 17:50 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-04 23:10 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-08-05 03:40 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-05 04:10 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@ldpreload.com> - 2017-08-08 00:50 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-08-08 00:00 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 00:50 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 01:40 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-08-08 01:50 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 03:40 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 04:00 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 04:20 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-08-08 05:10 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 05:30 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-08-08 05:40 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 06:00 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 07:00 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@ldpreload.com> - 2017-08-08 04:10 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 04:30 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Diane Trout <diane@ghic.org> - 2017-08-08 05:20 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 05:40 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 07:30 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 08:20 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Geoffrey Thomas <geofft@ldpreload.com> - 2017-08-10 17:40 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Ole Streicher <olebole@debian.org> - 2017-08-08 21:20 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-08 21:30 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2017-08-04 13:00 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2017-08-04 14:40 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-07 00:00 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> - 2017-08-07 01:00 +0200
Re: MBF for deprecating Python2 usage Christian Seiler <christian@iwakd.de> - 2017-08-07 01:10 +0200
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