Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > linux.debian.maint.python > #12724

Python3 -dbg packages

Show all headers | View raw

Python 3.8 upstream now has a common ABI for normal and debug extension builds,
so it is technically possible to load a debug extension in the normal
interpreter, or to load a normal extension in the debug interpreter.  In Debian,
debug extensions are shipped with a different name, and only loaded by the
corresponding interpreter.  We could change / simply the current setup, but I
first wanted to know how many people are still using the debug builds.  The
reason for the separate debug builds allowed debugging of stuff in modules
further down the Python stack, without having to rebuild the whole stack. There
are several solutions how to simplify the packaging, I'm not sure how much the
dbg extensions are still used ... There are several scenarios:

 - Keep the current setup (-dbg packages need to be available to
   run them).

 - Allow the debug interpreter to load normal debug extensions (but
   load a debug extension if it's available by default).  That would
   allow building debug extensions without having debug extensions
   built for all it's dependencies, maybe requiring changes in the
   dependencies of a package.

 - Stop building debug extensions, and telling developers to
   build extensions in debug mode, if they need them.  That would
   probably be inline with everything else shipped in Debian.

 - Stop building debug extensions, and also stop building the Python
   debug interpreter.  You would need to rebuild the interpreter
   itself to have meaningful debug sessions.  I'm not preferring
   this solution.

I'm currently tending to implement the second scenario, but if people think that
having the -dbg packages available is still useful, then also opt for the third
option.

Matthias

Back to linux.debian.maint.python | Previous | Next — Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Python3 -dbg packages Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2020-07-06 20:40 +0200
  Re: Python3 -dbg packages Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2020-07-07 10:50 +0200
  Re: Python3 -dbg packages Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2021-09-03 11:00 +0200
    Re: Python3 -dbg packages Scott Talbert <swt@techie.net> - 2021-09-13 16:20 +0200
      Re: Python3 -dbg packages Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2021-09-14 08:40 +0200
        Re: Python3 -dbg packages Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2021-09-15 12:50 +0200
          Re: Python3 -dbg packages Sandro Tosi <morph@debian.org> - 2021-09-15 15:30 +0200

csiph-web