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Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation

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Subject Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation
Date Sun, 02 Apr 2017 09:20:01 +0200
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On Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:20:17 PM PDT fradev wrote:
> On 31/03/17 13:27:14 CEST, Maximiliano Curia wrote:
> > >>>   Depends: kmail                        --> change to: Suggests
> > >> 
> > >> It has its glitches... But I use it
> > > 
> > > I use it too and I propose to suggest it, and not recommend it, exactly
> > > because it has it glitches and many people probably prefer other clients
> > > or
> > > just e-mail web interfaces even when using the Plasma desktop.
> > 
> > I think that kde-standard needs to provide kmail, even if kmail is
> > "glitchy", btw, it works way better than the one in jessie. The same goes
> > for korganizer. kaddressbook and knotes are required for a sane kmail and
> > korganizer installation respectively.
> 
> I agree that all these packages are useful for kmail and korganizer.
> However, especially when using multiple machines, a browser web can be said
> to be essential but  a complete mail suite is not. I have different
> computers but only one is used for e-mail, from my point of view is not
> useful to have kmail and friends installed by default on all my computers
> by default because they serve different purposes.
> 
> And, again, I think that kmail and its complementary applications installed
> by default are too much for the general public. We power users have our
> needs but the majority out there has more simple needs. For a lot of people
> the web interface of their only e-mail account is more than enough, meaning
> that what they need is just a web browser.
> 
> Francesco

But for a good "out of the box" experience, many people expect a mail client. 
Look at Kubuntu. Personally kmail would be of the first packages I would 
install on any KDE system that I would set up for an "average" user. A default 
email solution is something any distro should have. For a KDE specific 
solution, I don't think there is much else out there. If this were to come to 
a vote I would say leave it in.

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Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-15 21:40 +0100
  Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-17 11:10 +0100
    Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 06:30 +0100
      Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-03-20 14:50 +0100
        Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 16:20 +0100
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Thom Castermans <thom.castermans@gmail.com> - 2017-03-20 17:20 +0100
            Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-20 19:40 +0100
      Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-25 19:10 +0100
        Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-30 18:00 +0200
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-03-30 19:30 +0200
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 01:50 +0200
            Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-03-31 12:40 +0200
              Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Maximiliano Curia <maxy@debian.org> - 2017-03-31 13:40 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2017-03-31 17:40 +0200
                Bug#840844: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Maximiliano Curia <maxy@gnuservers.com.ar> - 2017-03-31 18:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@cknow.org> - 2017-03-31 19:10 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-03-31 18:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-01 12:40 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-04-02 09:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation rhkramer@gmail.com - 2017-04-02 14:40 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-05 08:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-05 08:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-05 08:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-04-05 13:30 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-05 15:30 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-04-05 20:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-06 00:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-04-06 01:30 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Nick <nick@steelyglint.org> - 2017-04-16 00:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-04-18 22:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Nick <nick@steelyglint.org> - 2017-04-23 17:00 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-04-23 20:00 +0200
        Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-22 13:30 +0200
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Luigi Toscano <luigi.toscano@tiscali.it> - 2017-04-22 14:00 +0200
            Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-04-22 16:40 +0200
              Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-05-07 18:50 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de> - 2017-05-14 11:20 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation fradev <fradevpub@inventati.org> - 2017-05-14 12:40 +0200
                Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Sandro Knauß <bugs@sandroknauss.de> - 2017-05-15 22:30 +0200
          Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Shawn Sörbom <shawn@sorbom.com> - 2017-05-18 19:50 +0200
            Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Jimmy Johnson <field.engineer@gmail.com> - 2017-05-19 02:50 +0200
  Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation inkbottle <inkbottle007@gmail.com> - 2017-03-17 16:00 +0100
    Re: improving the UX with the default KDE installation Luigi Toscano <luigi.toscano@tiscali.it> - 2017-03-17 18:00 +0100

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