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| From | NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.kernel |
| Subject | Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust |
| Date | 2025-04-03 23:40 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <KxAs2-aRlS-5@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
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On 03/04/25 23:08, Miguel Ojeda wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 8:33 PM Bastian Blank<waldi@debian.org> wrote: >> What the heck is this good for, where config dependency would be useful? > C macros in the kernel use the kernel config all the time, why would > this be different? > > What is the root issue here? I think the key issue here is Debian wants to support cross-compiling out-of-tree kernel modules, but doing so with Rust modules requires one to have libmacros.so compiled and packaged for the build architecture, which in the context of cross-compilation is different than the target architecture. Stuff for the build architecture is config-independent in Debian's packaging and should probably remain so, as otherwise one would need to build such stuff for every single build architecture + target configuration (and arch) combination supported by Debian, which doesn't scale up, if at all possible. The difference with C is C does not compile macros into shared libraries, so this issue does not arise. If libmacros.so (and more generally, for the future, every proc macro) could be compiled not only at kernel build time (which I understand is necessary anyway), but also recompiled while the out-of-tree module is being compiled, then this issue would not arise for Rust either. One could simply ship the headers package without the proc macros, and rebuild the proc macros when needed.
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Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-02-26 01:30 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-02-26 12:50 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-02-26 13:20 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 14:00 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-02-26 15:20 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 19:30 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-02-26 22:00 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 18:40 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2025-02-26 19:20 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-02-26 19:30 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 20:10 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-02-26 20:20 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 18:40 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-04-02 23:00 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-04-02 23:30 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-04-02 23:40 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-04-03 00:50 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-04-03 16:50 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-04-03 19:30 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-04-03 21:00 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-04-03 23:30 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-04-03 23:40 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 23:40 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-04-12 18:50 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-04-13 13:40 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-04-13 17:40 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 18:40 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-04-13 20:30 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2025-04-16 17:40 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-05-03 17:10 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-04-04 11:20 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 23:40 +0200
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Miguel Ojeda <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> - 2025-02-26 19:40 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust NoisyCoil <noisycoil@disroot.org> - 2025-02-26 14:40 +0100
Re: Package for development of out-of-tree kernel modules written in Rust Bastian Blank <waldi@debian.org> - 2025-02-26 14:40 +0100
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