Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

From	Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.devel
Subject	Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.
Date	2024-07-02 02:10 +0200
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Alec,

On Monday, July 1, 2024 4:59:26 PM MST Alec Leamas wrote:
> 1. Persuade users to uninstall PPA packages before installing official
> packages and also generation 2 PPA packages with sane versions like 5.10.x

[...]

> Of these I would say that 1. is a **very** hard sell upstream. Users are
> used to just update and will try, fail and cause friction.

Although I generally agree with your conclusions, using a PPA is the type of 
end user task that involved them making modifications to the repositories on 
their systems.  I would assume that anyone who has done so, and who is already 
running Linux instead of Windows, is fully capable of handling a “downgrade” 
to an official package.  Asking users to remove the PPA they manually added and 
install an official package doesn’t really seem like that hard of an ask to me.

-- 
Soren Stoutner
soren@debian.org

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Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-02 00:40 +0200
  Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-02 01:00 +0200
    Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-02 01:20 +0200
      Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-07-02 01:40 +0200
        Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-07-02 02:10 +0200
          Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2024-07-02 02:30 +0200
            Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-02 02:40 +0200
        Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2024-07-02 02:20 +0200
          Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2024-07-02 12:10 +0200
        Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Jens Reyer <jens.reyer@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 07:00 +0200
        Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@debian.org> - 2024-07-02 20:50 +0200
          Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Philip Hands <phil@hands.com> - 2024-07-03 10:20 +0200
            Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2024-07-03 12:30 +0200
      Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess. Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2024-07-02 01:40 +0200

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