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Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg

From Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.dpkg, linux.debian.devel
Subject Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg
Date 2023-04-26 16:50 +0200
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Le mar. 25 avr. 2023 à 19:08, Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> a écrit :
>
> Hi Luca,
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 01:06:18PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 at 11:50, Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 03:29:33PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > > After Bookworm ships I plan to propose a policy change to the CTTE and
> > > > policy maintainers to forbid shipping files in the legacy directories
> > > > altogether, followed by a debhelper change to adjust any stragglers
> > > > automatically at build time and a mass rebuild, plus MBF for the small
> > > > % that does not use dh and a piuparts test to stop migration for
> > > > anything that is uploaded and doesn't comply. That should bring the
> > > > matter to an end, without needing to modify dpkg.
> > >
> > > I agree with the goal of removing aliases by moving files to their
> > > canonical locations. However, I do not quite see us getting there in the
> > > way you see it, but maybe I am missing something. As long as dpkg does
> > > not understand the effects of aliasing, we cannot safely move those
> > > files and thus the file move moratorium will have to be kept in place.
> > > And while moving the files would bring the matter to an end, we cannot
> > > do so without either modifying dpkg or rolling back the transition and
> > > starting over. I hope that we all agree that rolling back would be too
> > > insane to even consider, but I fail to see how you safely move files
> > > without dpkg being changed. Can you elaborate on that aspect?
> >
> > Moving files within _the same_ package is actually fine as far as I
> > know. It's moving between location _and_ packages within the same
> > upgrade that is problematic. The piuparts test I added is overzealous,
> > but it doesn't need to be.
>
> You got me interested to dig deeper. I looked into that piuparts
> check[1]. From what I understand, it does something differently from
> what you suggest here. It detects files moved between / and /usr (which
> is what is going to happen according to your plan) and it does not
> detect files being moved between packages (which would actually be
> problematic here). It also does not produce an error (merely a warning),
> so it doesn't halt testing migration and in particular, it doesn't
> detect the problematic situation at all. That's kinda disappointing.
>
> You also side stepped the question of how to handle the situation where
> we've moved files from / to /usr and then need to move files between
> packages in a safe way, though your other response to Simon McVittie
> suggests you have an idea there.
>
> On Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:03:01 +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > We already have piuparts tests detecting files moving, it should be
> > easy enough to extend that to check that the appropriate
> > Breaks/Replaces have been added. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I
> > believe it's already against policy to do this without
> > Breaks/Replaces, so it's not a use case that we need to support, no?
> > If someone does that by mistake, the package will not migrate to
> > testing.
>
> Yeah, we agree that you need Breaks+Replaces. The issue here is that due
> to dpkg not knowing about the aliasing, Breaks+Replaces is insufficient.
> Due to the insufficiency the CTTE enacted the moratorium.
>
> My impression is that you believe that with bookworm, the moratorium is
> being lifted and thus we can start moving files. Unfortunately, the
> underlying problem does not go away just because we've released
> bookworm. It's a problem that is unique to merged installations and
> those are not going to go away in bookworm.
>
> So yeah, we all want these files moved to their canonical locations and
> I kinda like the simplicity of your approach, but thus far my
> understanding is that it is plain broken and doesn't work. Well, yeah it
> does work in the sense that we break user installations during upgrade
> and notice so late in the freeze without any good options to fix.
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2023 at 01:06:18PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > > I'd also be interested on how you plan to move important files in
> > > essential packages. This is an aspect raised by Simon Richter and where
> > > I do not see an obvious answer yet.
> >
> > Do you have a pointer? Not sure I follow what "important" files means
> > here, doesn't ring a bell.
>
> In <669234b3-555b-4e2a-ccc7-dd5510b6e9c1@debian.org>, Simon Richter
> said:
> > Dpkg already has defined behaviour for directory vs symlink: the directory
> > wins. In principle a future version of dpkg could change that, but
> > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 is just too special, we'd never want to have a package that
> > actually moves it.
>
> This and /bin/sh is the kind of files I'd consider important. And then
> upon thinking further it became more and more difficult for me to make
> sense of the objection. On a merged system, we can just move that file
> to its canonical location without having any trouble even with an
> unmodified dpkg. So from my pov, the question about important files can
> be disregarded. I hope Simon Richter agrees.
>
> Let us circle back to your "broken" approach. It sure is simple (just
> move all the files and be done) and if we could just skip over the
> upgrade issues and have all the files moved without having to modify
> dpkg, that would actually be a better result than DEP 17. Just how do we
> avoid the issue of file loss arising from the aliasing in your scenario?
>
> There kinda is an obvious solution here. We just need to tell dpkg that
> it needs to remove the package containing the file that is being moved
> before unpacking the replacing package. This semantic actually exists
> and we call it "Conflicts". So instead of using Breaks+Replaces, the
> solution is to use Conflicts! Problem solved, right?
>
> Yeah, I think this solves a number of cases, but there are two areas
> where it does not:
>  * We generally prefer Breaks over Conflicts for a reason. It gives the
>    dependency resolver more freedom and in taking this freedom away, it
>    may fail to find solutions to complex upgrades. (Which is why Breaks
>    got introduced in the first place.)
>  * We cannot use Conflicts inside the transitively essential set.
>
> So if we move all those files, in 90% (number made up) of the cases it
> will go well (since we don't move between packages) and in 90% (number
> made up) of the remaining 10%, we can use Conflicts, but what do we do
> about that remaining 1%?
>
> If we look deeper into the dpkg toolbox, we pause at diversions. What if
> the new package were to add a (--no-rename) diversion for files that are
> at risk of being accidentally deleted in newpkg.preinst and then remove
> that diversion in newpkg.postinst? Any such diversion will cause package
> removal of the oldpkg to skip removal of the diverted file (and instead
> deleted the non-existent path that we diverted to). Thus we retain the
> files we were interested in.
>
> This way, we can just move the files as you suggested.
>  * For 90% of the packages, this will just work.
>  * For 9% of the packages, we'll need to turn Breaks+Replaces into
>    Conflicts.
>  * And for 1% of the packages, we'll need to add complex diversions to
>    maintainer scripts.

Do we have a tool to classify the packages ?

Bastien

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DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-03 14:10 +0200
  Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2023-04-21 14:20 +0200
    Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <luca.boccassi@gmail.com> - 2023-04-21 16:50 +0200
      Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-04-22 12:50 +0200
        Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <luca.boccassi@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 14:30 +0200
        Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2023-04-26 15:20 +0200
          Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-27 00:50 +0200
        Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-27 15:40 +0200
          Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-04-28 16:00 +0200
            Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Jochen Sprickerhof <jspricke@debian.org> - 2023-04-28 19:00 +0200
              Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg James Addison <jay@jp-hosting.net> - 2023-04-28 19:20 +0200
      Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-22 13:00 +0200
        Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <luca.boccassi@gmail.com> - 2023-04-22 14:30 +0200
          Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-25 21:10 +0200
            Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-04-25 22:40 +0200
              Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2023-04-26 15:20 +0200
            Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-04-26 11:20 +0200
              Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-04-26 11:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2023-04-26 18:30 +0200
              Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2023-05-02 12:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-02 15:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2023-05-03 10:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-03 12:30 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-03 20:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-04 19:20 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2023-05-05 11:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-05 14:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2023-05-05 18:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 00:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 07:30 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 14:30 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 17:20 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 18:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-06 21:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 21:50 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 12:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 14:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-06 21:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-06 23:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2023-05-07 01:50 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-07 13:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2023-05-08 20:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-09 03:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-09 06:20 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-09 13:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-07 08:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-07 09:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-07 11:20 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-07 13:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-08 05:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-08 14:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-08 14:20 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2023-05-10 17:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-10 21:30 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-05-10 23:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-10 23:20 +0200
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                Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems  (revisited) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-05-12 16:40 +0200
                Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems  (revisited) Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2023-05-12 16:40 +0200
                Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-12 17:40 +0200
                Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-15 01:30 +0200
                Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems  (revisited) Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> - 2023-05-15 02:10 +0200
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                Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-15 16:50 +0200
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                Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems  (revisited) Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2023-05-12 18:40 +0200
                Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems (revisited) Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-05-15 20:00 +0200
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                Re: Bug#1035904: dpkg currently warning about merged-usr systems  (revisited) Roger Lynn <Roger@rilynn.me.uk> - 2023-05-18 00:30 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-26 08:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2023-05-26 09:50 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Ansgar <ansgar@43-1.org> - 2023-05-26 10:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-26 10:50 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Matthew Vernon <matthew@debian.org> - 2023-05-26 11:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-07 14:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-07 16:50 +0200
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                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-08 03:30 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-08 11:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-08 23:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-09 03:10 +0200
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                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-05-08 22:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-09 03:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2023-05-10 17:50 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg RL <richard.lewis.debian@googlemail.com> - 2023-05-13 16:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-13 16:20 +0200
                booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve support  for directory aliasing in dpkg) Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-17 11:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) "G. Branden Robinson" <g.branden.robinson@gmail.com> - 2023-05-17 11:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2023-05-17 12:20 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-17 12:30 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2023-05-17 19:20 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 08:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-18 11:30 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 02:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-05-19 13:10 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2023-05-17 19:30 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 10:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-06-08 12:10 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2023-06-09 09:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 12:00 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 12:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2023-06-09 13:10 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2023-06-09 13:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 17:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-06-09 15:30 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 17:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-06-09 18:30 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Richard Laager <rlaager@debian.org> - 2023-06-09 20:10 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-06-09 20:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-06-09 22:20 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Jeroen Dekkers <jeroen@dekkers.ch> - 2023-06-11 15:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-06-11 19:10 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-06-11 19:10 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-06-11 19:30 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-06-11 20:10 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-06-11 20:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) HW42 <hw42@ipsumj.de> - 2023-06-09 22:30 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-06-10 07:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2023-06-10 08:40 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2023-06-10 09:00 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-06-10 10:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2023-06-10 19:30 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-06-10 21:00 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2023-06-11 23:20 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-06-27 21:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2023-06-09 17:50 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems Bjørn Mork <bjorn@mork.no> - 2023-06-09 20:00 +0200
                Re: booststrapping /usr-merged systems (was: Re: DEP 17: Improve  support for directory aliasing in dpkg) Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-06-10 04:30 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg David Kalnischkies <david@kalnischkies.de> - 2023-05-03 15:10 +0200
            Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com> - 2023-04-26 16:50 +0200
            Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-27 00:50 +0200
              Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-04-27 08:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2023-04-27 11:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-27 13:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> - 2023-04-27 15:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Marc Haber <mh+debian-devel@zugschlus.de> - 2023-04-27 18:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2023-04-28 21:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2023-04-27 14:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-04-27 17:00 +0200
              Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-28 10:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-04-28 11:40 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2023-04-28 12:00 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Luca Boccassi <bluca@debian.org> - 2023-04-29 02:50 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org> - 2023-05-02 17:40 +0200
              Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-04-28 14:10 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-28 15:50 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Marvin Renich <mrvn@renich.org> - 2023-04-29 20:20 +0200
                Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-29 22:20 +0200
              Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-28 22:20 +0200
      Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-02 15:00 +0200
        Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-02 15:10 +0200
        Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-05-02 16:00 +0200
    Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-22 13:00 +0200
  Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2023-04-21 15:10 +0200
    Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> - 2023-04-21 19:30 +0200
    Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2023-04-22 13:00 +0200
      Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2023-04-22 15:50 +0200
      Re: DEP 17: Improve support for directory aliasing in dpkg Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@debian.org> - 2023-04-24 11:40 +0200

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