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  il giorno in cui l'italia si collego' ad Arpanet ... scap61 <scap6161@yahoo.it> - 2016-03-29 06:04 -0700
    Re: il giorno in cui l'italia si collego' ad Arpanet ... scap61 <scap6161@yahoo.it> - 2016-03-29 06:05 -0700
    Re: il giorno in cui l'italia si collego' ad Arpanet ... AleX <spammenograzie@NOSPAMlibero.it> - 2016-03-29 22:26 +0000
      Re: il giorno in cui l'italia si collego' ad Arpanet ... GabrieleMax <gabriele1NOSPAM@hotmail.com> - 2016-03-30 21:14 +0200
        Re: il giorno in cui l'italia si collego' ad Arpanet ... AleX <spammenograzie@NOSPAMlibero.it> - 2016-03-30 21:11 +0000

#47462 — il giorno in cui l'italia si collego' ad Arpanet ...

http://www.repubblica.it/tecnologia/2016/03/29/news/renzi_il_29_aprile_aprile_l_internet_day_e_poi_gara_per_la_banda_larga-136479589/

vero o falso ?? qui sicuramente qualcuno che c'era lo troviamo :-)

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#47463

Il giorno martedì 29 marzo 2016 15:04:19 UTC+2, scap61 ha scritto:
> http://www.repubblica.it/tecnologia/2016/03/29/news/renzi_il_29_aprile_aprile_l_internet_day_e_poi_gara_per_la_banda_larga-136479589/
> 
> vero o falso ?? qui sicuramente qualcuno che c'era lo troviamo :-)

Scusate per il minuscolo scappato nello scrivere Italia

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#47466

scap61 <scap6161@yahoo.it> wrote in
news:cf03c4ba-692f-4709-981b-e45d84dc54b2@googlegroups.com: 

> http://www.repubblica.it/tecnologia/2016/03/29/news/renzi_il_29
_aprile_
> aprile_l_internet_day_e_poi_gara_per_la_banda_larga-136479589/ 
> 
> vero o falso ?? qui sicuramente qualcuno che c'era lo troviamo :-)
> 

direi vero (al massimo, giorno più, giorno meno), a giudicare dalla 
corrispondenza dell'epoca ;-)



3^ EARN Technical Meeting EARN 21-22 aprile 1986,Parigi

http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/p11.htm


Italy: Twenty-six nodes are already active, and five are due to be 
connected soon. In italy, EARN includes VAX/VMS/jnet nodes, unix/urep 
nodes and some CDC nodes. A Sperry node is planned, which will use 
software from the University of Maryland. An ARPAnet connection is 
planned to the CNUCE in Pisa, but it has not yet been decided to offer a 
gateway service. Work is in progress in Italy to harmonize academic 
networking. 


11/02/1987 EARN Executive Committee Meeting

http://www.chilton-
computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/earn_exec/87EXEC1.htm

Stefano Trumpy presented the ARPA gateway at CNUCE and the EARN EXEC 
supports it. He will send a letter to the EARN BOD members describing 
the pilot status and technical information how to use the gateway. 



06.04.87: Report on the progress of EARN 

http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/p13.htm

An ARPA link has been established to Pisa. A copy of the Wisconsin 
gateway software is running at Pisa and a service to EARN users will be 
established as soon as tests are complete. 


Ciao,
AleX

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#47467

> 06.04.87: Report on the progress of EARN
>
> http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/p13.htm

The expected 56K link between Montpellier and City University New York 
will be operational in two months. The Pisa to City University link will 
probably be dropped when the Montpellier link is established.

Quindi Monpellier si collegava con il 56K a New York e Pisa si collegava 
in cascata con Monpellier?

Saluti!
GabrieleMax

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#47468

GabrieleMax <gabriele1NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in news:ndh8gf$9o6$1
@virtdiesel.mng.cu.mi.it:

> 
>> 06.04.87: Report on the progress of EARN
>>
>> http://www.chilton-computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/p13.htm
> 
> The expected 56K link between Montpellier and City University New York 
> will be operational in two months. The Pisa to City University link 
will 
> probably be dropped when the Montpellier link is established.
> 
> Quindi Monpellier si collegava con il 56K a New York e Pisa si 
collegava 
> in cascata con Monpellier?
> 

Aspetta, quello è dovrebbe collegameno EARN<->BITNET, mentre quello 
oggetto della commerazione è il gateway EARN<->ARPANET subito sotto a 
quanto hai citato c'è infatti:

"An ARPA link has been established to Pisa. A copy of the Wisconsin 
gateway software is running at Pisa and a service to EARN users will be 
established as soon as tests are complete."

C'è diversa roba interessante in quella pagina. 

poco sopra a quello che hai evidenziato, si legge:

Traffic may well take this route or that depending on circumstances. It 
may be James's view of what is wrong but he doesn't have to operate the 
network and had only partial knowledge of what goes on. Any way, it is 
history and the network is continually changing to meet requirements. 
For example, a satellite link between Montpelier and the states is going 
in, the Rome/CUNY line has been relocated to Pisa, and so on. 

Nel febbraio dell'87 il link era ancora Pisa-CUNY (ma in precedenza era 
Roma - CUNY):

The high-speed link Montpellier - New York is on order and expected for 
March 1987, it will be driven by SDLC protocols. The following changes 
in topology were proposed:

    Pisa-Montpellier and drop of the redundant link Pisa-CERN
    RAL-Montpellier instead of RAL-CERN


http://www.chilton-
computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/earn_exec/87EXEC1.htm


e questo fino all'ottobre stesso anno:

http://www.chilton-
computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/earn_exec/87EXEC6.htm

9.2 It was agreed that the link PISA-CUNY should be cancelled 
9.3 [...] The topology agreed by the Executive is as follows:-
Finland, Norway and Iceland to Sweden
Sweden to Denmark
Denmark to Netherlands
Dublin to UK
Turkey,  Israel,  Greece,  Ivory Coast,  Spain,  Italy, to France
(Montpellier)
Belgium to France (Paris)
Austria to Switzerland
Germany to France (Montpellier - 64K)
Netherlands to UK to France (Montpellier)  to Switzerland to
Netherlands (a group of four lines).


Tuttavia questo è riferito al collegamento EARN <-> BITNET.

Riguardo invece il collegamento EARN/ARPANET, si legge, oltre a quanto 
ho riportato, questo:

"Philip Overy is now using a large percentage of his time on EARN user 
support. Most problems are with mail and concern traversing gateways 
outside of the UK. In particular the gateways in the USA are numerous 
and documentation is sparse. The gateway of greatest concern is the 
Wisconsin ARPA gateway but the introduction of the gateway at Pisa may 
alleviate the problems"


Occorre fare un passo indietro, ai "first day of EARN":

http://www.chilton-
computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/earn_bod/84BOD1.htm


La situazione al 1984 era questa:

Italy
    The only line activated is the line Rome to Cuny; the other lines 
are physically here and may be activated any time. 
    Internal networks includes lines between Roma Scientific Center and 
Bari, Roma, Pisa (CNUCE), Bologna. 
    As soon as connections are activated, a certain number of nodes will 
be activated. 
    The nodes pertaining to CNUCE are of two different kinds: 
Universities (like Palermo, Frascati, Firenze, Milano, Torino) and 
Institutes which belong to CNR (National Council for Research). 

http://www.chilton-
computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/earn_bod/84BOD2.htm


E qui si vede che al luglio '85 era pianificato il gateway italiano 
verso ARPAnet.

http://www.chilton-
computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/earn_bod/85BOD2.htm

qui c'è una nota curiosa:

Stefano Trumpy stated that EARN cannot use the Italian gateway to 
ARPANET because UK is formally opposing any european non-Italian 
traffic. 

http://www.chilton-
computing.org.uk/ccd/networking/bryant/earn_bod/87BOD2.htm


Ciao,
AleX

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