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  TL;DR: "Reasoning" hilft auch nicht allzu sehr weiter. Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-09 19:39 +0200
    Re: TL;DR: "Reasoning" hilft auch nicht allzu sehr weiter. "F. W." <me@home.invalid> - 2025-06-16 13:50 +0200
      Re: TL;DR: "Reasoning" hilft auch nicht allzu sehr weiter. Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2025-06-16 14:29 +0200
        Re: TL;DR: "Reasoning" hilft auch nicht allzu sehr weiter. Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2025-06-16 18:55 +0200

#639690 — TL;DR: "Reasoning" hilft auch nicht allzu sehr weiter.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-secret-meeting-where-mathematicians-struggled-to-outsmart-ai/

| On a weekend in mid-May, a clandestine mathematical conclave convened.
| Thirty of the world’s most renowned mathematicians traveled to
| Berkeley, Calif., with some coming from as far away as the U.K. The
| group’s members faced off in a showdown with a “reasoning” chatbot
| that was tasked with solving problems they had devised to test its
| mathematical mettle. After throwing professor-level questions at the
| bot for two days, the researchers were stunned to discover it was
| capable of answering some of the world’s hardest solvable problems. “I
| have colleagues who literally said these models are approaching
| mathematical genius,” says Ken Ono, a mathematician at the University
| of Virginia and a leader and judge at the meeting.
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Es ist ein einförmig Ding um’s Menschengeschlecht. Die meisten 
verarbeiten den grösten Theil der Zeit, um zu leben, und das Bisgen, das 
ihnen von Freyheit übrig bleibt, ängstigt sie so, daß sie alle Mittel 
aufsuchen, um’s los zu werden.

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Am 09.06.2025 um 19:39 schrieb Lars Gebauer:
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-secret-meeting- 
> where-mathematicians-struggled-to-outsmart-ai/
> 
> | On a weekend in mid-May, a clandestine mathematical conclave convened.
> | Thirty of the world’s most renowned mathematicians traveled to
> | Berkeley, Calif., with some coming from as far away as the U.K. The
> | group’s members faced off in a showdown with a “reasoning” chatbot
> | that was tasked with solving problems they had devised to test its
> | mathematical mettle. After throwing professor-level questions at the
> | bot for two days, the researchers were stunned to discover it was
> | capable of answering some of the world’s hardest solvable problems. “I
> | have colleagues who literally said these models are approaching
> | mathematical genius,” says Ken Ono, a mathematician at the University
> | of Virginia and a leader and judge at the meeting.

Die Meldung sagt eigentlich das Gegenteil Deiner Überschrift aus. Oder 
habe ich etwas falsch verstanden?

FW

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#640322

Am 16.06.2025 um 13:50 schrieb F. W.:
> Am 09.06.2025 um 19:39 schrieb Lars Gebauer:
>> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-secret-meeting- 
>> where-mathematicians-struggled-to-outsmart-ai/
>>
>> | On a weekend in mid-May, a clandestine mathematical conclave convened.
>> | Thirty of the world’s most renowned mathematicians traveled to
>> | Berkeley, Calif., with some coming from as far away as the U.K. The
>> | group’s members faced off in a showdown with a “reasoning” chatbot
>> | that was tasked with solving problems they had devised to test its
>> | mathematical mettle. After throwing professor-level questions at the
>> | bot for two days, the researchers were stunned to discover it was
>> | capable of answering some of the world’s hardest solvable problems. “I
>> | have colleagues who literally said these models are approaching
>> | mathematical genius,” says Ken Ono, a mathematician at the University
>> | of Virginia and a leader and judge at the meeting.
> 
> Die Meldung sagt eigentlich das Gegenteil Deiner Überschrift aus. Oder 
> habe ich etwas falsch verstanden?

Nein, das hast Du schon richtig verstanden.

Dieses Subject habe ich einem etwa zeitgleich erschienen Posting eines 
selbst-glaubenden KI-Spezialisten, des Chuck Norris der IT, entnommen. 
Der Artikel bildete imho einen schönen Kontrast dazu.

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bestanden. Bin jetzt valide Expertin für kapitalismuskritische 
frühkindliche Bildung, falls ihr sowas mal braucht."
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#640335

Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> wrote:

> Am 16.06.2025 um 13:50 schrieb F. W.:
> > Am 09.06.2025 um 19:39 schrieb Lars Gebauer:  
> >> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/inside-the-secret-meeting- 
> >> where-mathematicians-struggled-to-outsmart-ai/
> >>  
> >> | On a weekend in mid-May, a clandestine mathematical conclave
> >> | convened. Thirty of the world’s most renowned mathematicians
> >> | traveled to Berkeley, Calif., with some coming from as far away
> >> | as the U.K. The group’s members faced off in a showdown with a
> >> | “reasoning” chatbot that was tasked with solving problems they
> >> | had devised to test its mathematical mettle. After throwing
> >> | professor-level questions at the bot for two days, the
> >> | researchers were stunned to discover it was capable of answering
> >> | some of the world’s hardest solvable problems. “I have
> >> | colleagues who literally said these models are approaching
> >> | mathematical genius,” says Ken Ono, a mathematician at the
> >> | University of Virginia and a leader and judge at the meeting.  
> > 
> > Die Meldung sagt eigentlich das Gegenteil Deiner Überschrift aus.
> > Oder habe ich etwas falsch verstanden?  
> 
> Nein, das hast Du schon richtig verstanden.
> 
> Dieses Subject habe ich einem etwa zeitgleich erschienen Posting
> eines selbst-glaubenden KI-Spezialisten, des Chuck Norris der IT,
> entnommen. Der Artikel bildete imho einen schönen Kontrast dazu.

Tja. Nix verstanden aber große Fresse.

-- 
Lass' uns Freunde bleiben. Oder wie wir hier sagen: Geh' sterben.

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