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Re: "VolksSturm" - jetzt schon?

From "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org>
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Subject Re: "VolksSturm" - jetzt schon?
Date 2022-04-28 18:08 +0200
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Am 27.04.22 um 13:08 schrieb Herwig:
> 2022-04-27 13:09:00 +0200
> 
> Und schon wieder eine Meldung in den Medien, die
> einen ganz früh wach werden lassen:
> 
> https://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/deutschland/innenpolitik/id_92080378/wehrbeauftragte-eva-hoegl-alle-bis-65-werden-bei-der-bundeswehr-gebraucht-.html
> 
> Schön, wenn man gebraucht wird.
> 
> BTW: Die Nazis haben den VolksSturm nur bis 60 ausgehoben.
> 
> Herwig

Donetsk jetzt auch bis 65:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/28/donetsk-separatists-desperate-draft-campaign-empties-streets-of-men-ukraine

Donetsk separatists’ desperate draft campaign empties streets of men
Men under 65 are spending their days in hiding, leaving wives and 
sisters to take over their jobs

Emma Graham-Harrison

An aggressive draft campaign by the Russian-backed separatists who 
control parts of eastern Ukraine has emptied the area’s streets of 
military-age men, with many in hiding to avoid being sent to the frontline.

In a sign of how desperate pro-Russia authorities are to bolster the 
ranks of fighters, in late March they announced that the upper age limit 
of the draft had been raised from 55 to 65 in Donetsk, local media 
reported. And on Saturday authorities announced a mobilisation in the 
region of Kherson, which was largely captured by Russia after the war began.

Men who do not want to become cannon fodder in a war they do not 
support, against a country – Ukraine – that most of them still consider 
their own, are spending their days in hiding. Locals joke that they now 
live in a town of Amazons, run by women.

Husbands, sons and brothers live in basements or locked indoors. They 
cannot stay in their own homes because registration is by address. 
Instead they stay at the homes of friends or relatives where no 
military-age men are listed as residents.

Some come out at night, when the patrols rounding up unwilling recruits 
pause or are less frequent. “When I walk my dog at 11pm I could see the 
silhouettes of men smoking behind the curtains, with a window open,” 
said one resident reached by phone, who like most in Donetsk did not 
want to be quoted by name.

By day their jobs have been taken over by wives, sisters or female 
friends, or have simply gone unfilled. It is almost impossible to get a 
car repaired because most of the city’s mechanics are men who would be 
covered by the draft, locals said.

“It usually takes 45 minute to fix a problem with my tyres, and I just 
grab a coffee nearby,” said one woman. “But last time I was asked to 
drop my car and leave it over the weekend so that they could bring a guy 
to fix it at night.”

Electronics shops in the market that used to be staffed by men are now 
run by female relatives, who put the usual owners on the line to handle 
any questions. “You discuss all the technical details with him and then 
she will just give you what you wanted and take your money,” said one 
man who escaped the draft because of a medical condition and a foreign 
passport.

The self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, the so-called separatist 
region backed and recognised by Russia, announced its draft on 19 
February, a few days before the invasion of the rest of Ukraine. 
Exemptions have to be signed off by senior government officials, who 
themselves are one of the few groups to be spared the draft.

The order went out extremely early to try to prevent the men affected 
from fleeing, and those caught included some visitors from the 
Ukrainian-controlled part of the country.

“My son went back to our home village to check on his grandmother two 
days before the draft was announced. Now he is stuck in the DNR and I am 
very worried,” said one man in western Ukraine, trying to gather money 
to fund an escape. “He is in hiding, and hasn’t left the house for two 
months now. There are ways to smuggle him out, but only to Russia and it 
is very expensive and risky.”

In interviews with residents of the region, the Guardian heard of only 
two men granted leave to stay in their jobs. One was an 
anaesthesiologist, allowed to stay at his post when other doctors were 
ordered to join the military because he was one of just two experts left 
in the city. The other was a driver trained in using complicated 
construction equipment.

Bribes work but the cost of draft-dodging is $800, an exorbitant amount 
for most people in an already poor area with an economy now crippled by 
the war.

Men pushing the top end of the draft age group have grown beards in an 
attempt to look older, although the raising of the upper limit to 65 
means grey hair alone offers little protection.


In a further sign of desperation, city authorities have twice tried to 
lure men out of hiding by claiming the draft was finishing. Documents 
purporting to be government leaks about a new policy were shared on 
Telegram channels, but then men who came out of hiding because of them 
were seized and drafted.

Locals now say they will not believe any more news of the draft being 
cancelled. “Two times the authorities have tried to fool us by posting 
info that draft is over. So the next morning men started going out and 
they were all taken,” said another resident. “Now everyone learned the 
lesson so if they will announce that draft is over no one will believe 
them.”

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