Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43

From	cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Newsgroups	comp.unix.programmer
Subject	Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43
Date	2026-06-02 20:34 +0000
Organization	PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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In article <wwvv7c0vigp.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk>,
Richard Kettlewell  <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) writes:
>> The question was how one gets output written to the standard
>> error stream from some process into syslog.  The `syslog` and
>> related functions don't really help with that, unless you write
>> a program that reads that data (presumably over a pipe) and pass
>> it as an argument to `syslog` et al.
>
>The program has existed for years, it’s called ‘logger’.

I'm aware.  The point was that just linking to the POSIX
definitions for `syslog` et al was, again, answering a different
question than the one posed.

>> But even if one does the user may not have permissions to write to the
>> system log.
>
>Possible in principle I suppose, but it seems like a weird configuration
>since it’d make it less convenient for non-root daemons to use syslog.

It is actually quite common on a multi-user system.

As for system daemons that don't run as root, most versions of
`syslogd` these days support an option to specify the pathname
to multiple Unix domain sockets that they'll accept messages on;
those can be permitted differently for different daemons (many
of which may well be running in their own `chroot` prisons or
something similar, and thus unable to reach the standard socket
path anyhow).

	- Dan C.

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OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-04-14 19:55 +0000
  Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-04-14 20:10 -0400
    Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-15 03:34 +0000
    Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-15 08:15 +0100
    Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-04-15 15:08 +0000
  Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-21 20:41 +0200
    Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-04-21 18:52 +0000
  Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-05-30 13:39 -0700
    Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-05-30 20:46 +0000
      Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-05-30 15:59 -0700
        Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-05-30 23:05 +0000
          Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:34 +0100
          Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-05-31 02:22 -0700
        Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 16:55 -0700
          Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:26 +0100
      Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-31 04:51 -0400
        Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-01 00:22 +0000
          Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 09:16 +0100
          Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-01 08:18 +0000
            Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nicolas George <nicolas$george@salle-s.org> - 2026-06-01 14:13 +0000
              Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-01 16:02 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 00:13 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-02 08:22 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:32 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-08 08:20 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:54 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-09 08:48 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:34 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-10 08:21 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 04:33 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-11 10:18 +0000
              Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-01 17:14 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:14 +0100
              Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 00:31 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-02 07:35 +0200
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 06:39 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-02 14:49 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:08 +0100
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-02 15:36 +0200
              Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:22 +0100
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 17:06 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-02 18:47 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-03 08:18 +0000
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 20:40 +0100
                Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 20:34 +0000

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