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| From | cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.unix.programmer |
| Subject | Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 |
| Date | 2026-06-02 17:06 +0000 |
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <10vn2ik$jj$1@reader1.panix.com> (permalink) |
| References | <10rm63e$d0vg$1@dont-email.me> <10vjf8j$23ctb$1@dont-email.me> <6a1d936d$0$2524$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <10vm7bo$2prmk$4@dont-email.me> |
In article <10vm7bo$2prmk$4@dont-email.me>, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >On 2026-06-01, Nicolas George wrote: > >> boltar@caprica.universe, dans le message >> <10vjf8j$23ctb$1@dont-email.me>, a écrit : >>>>If you’re looking for messages sent to stderr, systemd collects these >>>>in its journal. You can find Firefox-related messages in your per-user >>>>journal with something like >>>> >>>> journalctl --user --user-unit=\*firefox\* >>> So much simpler than "grep firefox /var/log/syslog". Horray for systemd! >> >> Your mocking would work better if you were capable of explaining how a user >> program is able to get its standard error log to /var. > >The obvious answer has been pointed out already, but you may want to >look up certain parts of IEEE 1003.1: > ><https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9799919799/functions/closelog.html#tag_17_83_06_03> That's not the same thing, though. The question was how one gets output written to the standard error stream from some process into syslog. The `syslog` and related functions don't really help with that, unless you write a program that reads that data (presumably over a pipe) and pass it as an argument to `syslog` et al. But even if one does that, the user may not have permissions to write to the system log. >I'd also want to point out a different way of answering this: > > Can you explain how a user program is able to get its log messages > to the systemd journal? > >The point here not being a claim that that is not possible, or a need >for explanation, but a moment for you to consider "well, maybe syslog >does something similar-ish?". See above. - Dan C.
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OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-04-14 19:55 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-04-14 20:10 -0400
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-04-15 03:34 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-15 08:15 +0100
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-04-15 15:08 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> - 2026-04-21 20:41 +0200
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-04-21 18:52 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-05-30 13:39 -0700
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-05-30 20:46 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-05-30 15:59 -0700
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 kalevi@kolttonen.fi (Kalevi Kolttonen) - 2026-05-30 23:05 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:34 +0100
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Kevin Bowling <kevin.bowling@kev009.com> - 2026-05-31 02:22 -0700
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-05-30 16:55 -0700
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-05-31 08:26 +0100
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-05-31 04:51 -0400
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-01 00:22 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-01 09:16 +0100
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-01 08:18 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nicolas George <nicolas$george@salle-s.org> - 2026-06-01 14:13 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-01 16:02 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 00:13 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-02 08:22 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-08 00:32 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-08 08:20 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-09 00:54 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-09 08:48 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-10 00:34 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-10 08:21 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-11 04:33 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-11 10:18 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-01 17:14 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:14 +0100
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 00:31 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-02 07:35 +0200
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-02 06:39 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-02 14:49 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:08 +0100
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam2616@zugschl.us> - 2026-06-02 15:36 +0200
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 10:22 +0100
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 17:06 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2026-06-02 18:47 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 boltar@caprica.universe - 2026-06-03 08:18 +0000
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-02 20:40 +0100
Re: OT: Firefox vs Chromium on Fedora 43 cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross) - 2026-06-02 20:34 +0000
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