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| Started by | Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2015-08-19 16:47 -0700 |
| Last post | 2015-08-23 08:21 +0100 |
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The light colors computer Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> - 2015-08-19 16:47 -0700
Re: The light colors computer "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> - 2015-08-20 19:22 +0100
Re: The light colors computer "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-08-21 11:40 +0100
Re: The light colors computer Steve Drain <steve@kappa.me.uk> - 2015-08-21 12:06 +0100
Re: The light colors computer Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2015-08-21 19:25 +0100
Re: The light colors computer Kallu Wiegand <spam.only@roev.de> - 2015-08-21 21:22 +0200
Re: The light colors computer Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> - 2015-08-23 18:52 +0100
Re: The light colors computer Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2015-08-31 17:48 +0100
Re: The light colors computer "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-08-21 11:32 +0100
Re: The light colors computer Kallu Wiegand <spam.only@roev.de> - 2015-08-21 21:31 +0200
Re: The light colors computer Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 16:23 -0700
Re: The light colors computer "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-08-23 08:23 +0100
Re: The light colors computer Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2015-08-23 18:39 +0100
Re: The light colors computer Selwyn Froggitt <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-08-24 01:40 -0700
Re: The light colors computer "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2015-08-23 08:21 +0100
| From | Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-19 16:47 -0700 |
| Subject | The light colors computer |
| Message-ID | <25dae366-7ba7-4767-ba6e-ea719ba272c0@googlegroups.com> |
The light colors computer with full memory was made by an uncle man and some student types way back then. With a single key it could accept do words and other presses made sense too. It was a good idea to save this stuff before running You could buy stuff to put in it though it took time. Crazy rock man or something. Break out was free. There was a write thing that worked with funny paper. There were only four lines of keys so simple. You had to join it to the tv to see stuff . They made a lot of them in black but only one white one. The uncle man got that one. I still have my first one and the do it this way book. Sigh.
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| From | "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-20 19:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <55D628FA.MD-1.4.17.chris.young@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk> |
| In reply to | #3910 |
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:47:00 -0700 (PDT) da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin' to MC Geoff Wearmouth: > The light colors computer > with full memory was made by an uncle man and some student types way back then. > With a single key it could accept do words and other presses made sense too. > It was a good idea to save this stuff before running > You could buy stuff to put in it though it took time. > Crazy rock man or something. Break out was free. > There was a write thing that worked with funny paper. > There were only four lines of keys so simple. > You had to join it to the tv to see stuff . > They made a lot of them in black but only one white one. > The uncle man got that one. > I still have my first one and the do it this way book. Sigh. Erm... OK, OwenBot, what have you done with Geoff? Chris -- +-------------------------------------------+ | Unsatisfactory Software - "because it is" | | http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk | | Your Sinclair: A Celebration | +- http://www.yoursinclair.co.uk -----------+ DISCLAIMER: I may be making all this stuff up again.
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| From | "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-21 11:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mr6v46$gvm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3913 |
This sounds to me like a very young persons take on the Spectrum. Least that was what I assumed when I read it. Obviously could not count. There have been some odd computers made though, I fully recall Dixons selling an Atari with a kind of stepped keyboard, but the keys did not move, just had little membrane switches under them. Awful to use. Then there was the Newbrain, which had a single line display on it. Not much for the gamer there then, and it it was an eerie green display. The Lynx which when it drew coloured lines the three colours were sequential, making for a very strang screen update from Basic. I actually quite liked the kyboard of the Oric Atmos, but oh the basic. Save my sanity please. Nowadays, we seem to be happy with a computer that has no inbuilt language which is easy to learn and easy to use. It is a great shame as all the Sinclair basics were both of those things and with current computing power, surely a look alike for us oldies who remember line numbers and simple entry with error checking could use should be in every computer.. moan mumbles off talking about Python and visual basic. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> wrote in message news:55D628FA.MD-1.4.17.chris.young@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk... > On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:47:00 -0700 (PDT) da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were > rappin' > to MC Geoff Wearmouth: > >> The light colors computer >> with full memory was made by an uncle man and some student types way >> back then. >> With a single key it could accept do words and other presses made sense >> too. >> It was a good idea to save this stuff before running >> You could buy stuff to put in it though it took time. >> Crazy rock man or something. Break out was free. >> There was a write thing that worked with funny paper. >> There were only four lines of keys so simple. >> You had to join it to the tv to see stuff . >> They made a lot of them in black but only one white one. >> The uncle man got that one. >> I still have my first one and the do it this way book. Sigh. > > Erm... OK, OwenBot, what have you done with Geoff? > > Chris > > > -- > +-------------------------------------------+ > | Unsatisfactory Software - "because it is" | > | http://www.unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk | > | Your Sinclair: A Celebration | > +- http://www.yoursinclair.co.uk -----------+ > > DISCLAIMER: I may be making all this stuff up again.
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| From | Steve Drain <steve@kappa.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-21 12:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <DDDBx.355545$LU5.104372@fx12.am4> |
| In reply to | #3919 |
On 21/08/2015 11:40, Brian-Gaff wrote: > Nowadays, we seem to be happy with a computer that has no inbuilt language > which is easy to learn and easy to use. > It is a great shame as all the Sinclair basics were both of those things > and with current computing power, surely a look alike for us oldies who > remember line numbers and simple entry with error checking could use should > be in every computer.. > moan mumbles off talking about Python and visual basic. You could investigate RISC OS, the 'successor' to BBC MOS on the Archimedes etc. It has built-in BBC BASIC which is still actively used. Buy a Raspberry Pi and install the minimum Pico system and you will be back with a black screen and flashing cursor. ;-) https://www.riscosopen.org/content/sales/risc-os-pico
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| From | Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-21 19:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20150821192544.47d1aa61@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #3913 |
On 20 Aug 2015 19:22:34 +0100 "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> wrote: > Erm... OK, OwenBot, what have you done with Geoff? I suspect Geoff is trying to describe the Speccy in the style of Randall (XKCD) Munroe's "Thing Explainer" book. http://blog.xkcd.com/2015/05/13/new-book-thing-explainer/ "A while ago, I posted the comic Up Goer Five, an annotated blueprint of the Saturn V rocket with all the parts described using only the thousand most common English words. Today, I’m excited to announce that I’m publishing a collection of large-format (9″x13″) Up Goer Five-style blueprints. [...] Since this book explains things, I’ve called it Thing Explainer." Either that, or he's had an aneurysm. -- Duncan Snowden.
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| From | Kallu Wiegand <spam.only@roev.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-21 21:22 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d3pck7Fp659U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3921 |
On 21.08.2015 at 20:25 Duncan Snowden wrote: > On 20 Aug 2015 19:22:34 +0100 > "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> wrote: > >> Erm... OK, OwenBot, what have you done with Geoff? > > I suspect Geoff is trying to describe the Speccy in the style of > Randall (XKCD) Munroe's "Thing Explainer" book. .... > > Either that With the addition that he describes all of the Sinclairs: "only one white one" --> the ZX80. > or he's had an aneurysm. Don't think so. Greetings, Kallu --
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| From | Guesser <alistair@zxnet.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 18:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mrd15r$965$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3922 |
On 21/08/2015 20:22, Kallu Wiegand wrote: > With the addition that he describes all of the Sinclairs: > "only one white one" --> the ZX80. Er, no. He was describing Spectrums. They made one white one that Sir Clive has. :p
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| From | Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-31 17:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <ms20ho$r94$2@speranza.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #3913 |
On 20/08/2015 19:22, Chris Young wrote: > On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 16:47:00 -0700 (PDT) da kidz on comp.sys.sinclair were rappin' > to MC Geoff Wearmouth: > >> The light colors computer >> with full memory was made by an uncle man and some student types way back then. >> With a single key it could accept do words and other presses made sense too. >> It was a good idea to save this stuff before running >> You could buy stuff to put in it though it took time. >> Crazy rock man or something. Break out was free. >> There was a write thing that worked with funny paper. >> There were only four lines of keys so simple. >> You had to join it to the tv to see stuff . >> They made a lot of them in black but only one white one. >> The uncle man got that one. >> I still have my first one and the do it this way book. Sigh. > > Erm... OK, OwenBot, what have you done with Geoff? > > Chris Nothing. He did it to himself.
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| From | "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-21 11:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mr6uks$fdl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3910 |
Hmm, never saw a white one, but I guess it could have been made in any colour, even see through if they had loaded that plastic in the machines. I did see one painted eggshell orange once. It looked pretty naff. In those days the keyplate was attached by four little bent lugs, not just glue. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Geoff Wearmouth" <gwearmouth@gmail.com> wrote in message news:25dae366-7ba7-4767-ba6e-ea719ba272c0@googlegroups.com... > The light colors computer > with full memory was made by an uncle man and some student types way back > then. > With a single key it could accept do words and other presses made sense > too. > It was a good idea to save this stuff before running > You could buy stuff to put in it though it took time. > Crazy rock man or something. Break out was free. > There was a write thing that worked with funny paper. > There were only four lines of keys so simple. > You had to join it to the tv to see stuff . > They made a lot of them in black but only one white one. > The uncle man got that one. > I still have my first one and the do it this way book. Sigh.
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| From | Kallu Wiegand <spam.only@roev.de> |
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| Date | 2015-08-21 21:31 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <d3pck8Fp659U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #3918 |
Never seen a ZX80? Today the hue of mine is like mushroom, but I swear it was white! Greetings, Kallu On 21.08.2015 at 12:32 Brian-Gaff wrote: > Hmm, never saw a white one, but I guess it could have been made in any > colour, even see through if they had loaded that plastic in the machines. > > I did see one painted eggshell orange once. It looked pretty naff. In those > days the keyplate was attached by four little bent lugs, not just glue. > > Brian > --
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| From | Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-08-22 16:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <df4cc573-822f-4d9f-9706-e278a0109569@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #3923 |
Duncan has hit the nail on the head and I am using Randall Munroe's list of the thousand most common words to describe the Spectrum. There isn't the word thousand in the dictionary so ten hundred works. Similarly, Manic, Miner, rainbow and spectrum are missing. I used Theo Sanderson's 'Up-Goer Five Text Editor' to make it easier although I did not look at the dictionary first. http://splasho.com/upgoer5/ Have a go with a concept :-) I remain young and healthy. Talking of word games Ted Harvard recently visited us from beneath his bridge. I could not get the anagram. It is Darth Vader. I need to spend more time watching Rachel Riley and playing 48K Spectrum Scrabble. -- G.
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| From | "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 08:23 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mrbsab$sj9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3924 |
Huh? what dictionary does not have these words in it? I mean most translations dictionaries seem to manage. Though of coourse you can always fool them if you have a mind to and the time to bother to do it. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Geoff Wearmouth" <gwearmouth@gmail.com> wrote in message news:df4cc573-822f-4d9f-9706-e278a0109569@googlegroups.com... > Duncan has hit the nail on the head and I am using Randall Munroe's list > of the thousand most common words to describe the Spectrum. > There isn't the word thousand in the dictionary so ten hundred works. > Similarly, Manic, Miner, rainbow and spectrum are missing. > I used Theo Sanderson's 'Up-Goer Five Text Editor' to make it easier > although I did not look at the dictionary first. > > http://splasho.com/upgoer5/ > > Have a go with a concept :-) > > I remain young and healthy. > > Talking of word games Ted Harvard recently visited us from beneath his > bridge. I could not get the anagram. It is Darth Vader. > I need to spend more time watching Rachel Riley and playing 48K Spectrum > Scrabble. > > -- > G.
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| From | Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 18:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20150823183920.7987d3ce@talktalk.net> |
| In reply to | #3924 |
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Geoff Wearmouth <gwearmouth@gmail.com> wrote: > http://splasho.com/upgoer5/ That word writing thing is really interesting. But hard. > I remain young and healthy. Good, good. I was worried for a moment, then I saw it was the Up-Goer Five type of writing. > I need to spend more time watching Rachel Riley We all do. > and playing 48K Spectrum Scrabble. That too. (To break out of the silliness for a second, it would be better if it was more like a thesaurus than a spellchecker, offering alternatives for disallowed words. But even as it stands, it's kind of compelling.) -- Duncan Snowden.
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| From | Selwyn Froggitt <markrobertwills@yahoo.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-24 01:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f4218dc8-11b1-4f9d-8ade-5323a858c62b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #3924 |
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 00:23:21 UTC+1, Geoff Wearmouth wrote: > Duncan has hit the nail on the head and I am using Randall Munroe's list of the thousand most common words to describe the Spectrum. > There isn't the word thousand in the dictionary so ten hundred works. Similarly, Manic, Miner, rainbow and spectrum are missing. > I used Theo Sanderson's 'Up-Goer Five Text Editor' to make it easier although I did not look at the dictionary first. > > http://splasho.com/upgoer5/ > > Have a go with a concept :-) > > I remain young and healthy. > > Talking of word games Ted Harvard recently visited us from beneath his bridge. I could not get the anagram. It is Darth Vader. > I need to spend more time watching Rachel Riley and playing 48K Spectrum Scrabble. > > -- > G. There's something eeriliy Orwellian about a 1000 word dictionary!
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| From | "Brian-Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-08-23 08:21 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mrbs6j$s8p$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #3923 |
Yes it was white, but some were not as white as others, but Mushroom? are there smokers in the house? Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Kallu Wiegand" <spam.only@roev.de> wrote in message news:d3pck8Fp659U2@mid.individual.net... > Never seen a ZX80? Today the hue of mine is like mushroom, but I swear it > was white! > > Greetings, Kallu > > On 21.08.2015 at 12:32 Brian-Gaff wrote: >> Hmm, never saw a white one, but I guess it could have been made in any >> colour, even see through if they had loaded that plastic in the >> machines. >> >> I did see one painted eggshell orange once. It looked pretty naff. In >> those >> days the keyplate was attached by four little bent lugs, not just glue. >> >> Brian >> > -- >
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