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  ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> - 2012-04-22 17:08 +0100
    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2012-04-22 20:49 +0200
      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 andy rea <ask_me@ask.me> - 2012-04-22 21:43 +0100
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Wasted" <removematd@deletematd.adsl24.co.uk> - 2012-04-22 23:12 +0100
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-04-23 00:37 +0200
            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 spike1@freenet.co.uk - 2012-04-23 11:27 +0100
              Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-23 19:17 +0800
      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2012-04-23 20:33 +0100
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-24 19:54 +0800
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2012-04-24 15:27 +0100
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-13 15:39 +0000
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-17 20:04 +0800
      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2012-04-23 22:03 +0100
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 hp <ferd@farkel.net> - 2012-04-24 20:07 -0400
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-04-25 18:03 +0200
    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 lizardb0y <andrew.stephen@gmail.com> - 2012-04-22 15:08 -0700
    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-23 17:07 +0800
      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 spike1@freenet.co.uk - 2012-04-23 11:28 +0100
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-23 19:16 +0800
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-04-23 21:44 +0200
            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-24 19:55 +0800
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2012-04-23 21:08 +0200
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-04-23 21:39 +0200
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 andy rea <ask_me@ask.me> - 2012-04-23 20:45 +0100
            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-04-23 21:54 +0200
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-24 19:58 +0800
            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-04-24 17:21 +0200
              Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-25 06:41 +0800
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Martijn van Buul <pino@dohd.org> - 2012-04-24 12:07 +0000
            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-04-24 16:59 +0200
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-25 06:46 +0800
      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2012-04-23 12:50 +0100
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-04-24 20:00 +0800
      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-13 15:59 +0000
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-15 06:12 +0800
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-15 08:44 +0000
            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-20 08:18 +0800
              Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2012-05-20 01:44 +0100
                Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-22 16:50 +0800
                  Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2012-05-22 11:12 +0100
                    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-22 18:48 +0800
                      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2012-05-22 12:47 +0100
                        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2012-05-22 13:24 +0100
                          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-24 06:29 +0800
                            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-25 21:48 +0000
                              Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-26 18:17 +0800
                                Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-26 13:38 +0000
                                  Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-27 10:36 +0800
                              Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Matthew Westcott <gasman@raww.org> - 2012-05-26 20:56 +0100
                                Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-27 10:41 +0800
                                  Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-05-27 12:16 +0200
                                Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-28 12:56 +0000
                                Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Andreas Kohlbach <april12.8.ankman@spamgourmet.com> - 2012-05-28 17:35 -0400
                                  Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-30 17:56 +0800
                                    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Andreas Kohlbach <april12.8.ankman@spamgourmet.com> - 2012-05-30 16:01 -0400
                                      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Martijn van Buul <pino@dohd.org> - 2012-05-31 07:16 +0000
                                        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-31 18:21 +0800
                            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 deKay <andyk@lofi-gaming.org.uk.invalid> - 2012-05-28 15:07 +0100
                        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> - 2012-05-22 18:19 +0100
                          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2012-05-23 23:35 +0100
                            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-25 21:57 +0000
                        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-25 21:29 +0000
                      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-25 21:15 +0000
                        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-27 10:48 +0800
                          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "dott.Piergiorgio" <chiedetelo@ask.me> - 2012-05-27 12:25 +0200
                            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Mic <mic_carusoQWERTY@libero.it> - 2012-06-17 01:37 +0200
                          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2012-05-27 11:55 +0100
                            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-27 21:40 +0800
                              Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Guesser <alistair@alistairsserver.no-ip.org> - 2012-05-27 14:57 +0100
              Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@hotmail.com> - 2012-05-21 18:44 +0000
      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2012-05-21 01:03 +0100
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> - 2012-05-21 18:13 +0100
        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-22 16:54 +0800
          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2012-05-22 12:48 +0100
            Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-24 06:32 +0800
              Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Andrew Owen <aowen10@mail.bbk.ac.uk> - 2012-05-24 07:01 +0100
                Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> - 2012-05-24 18:15 +0100
                  Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-26 18:23 +0800
                  Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2012-05-26 18:29 +0200
                Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-26 18:21 +0800
                  Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2012-05-26 19:53 +0100
                    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid> - 2012-05-26 21:19 +0200
                    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-27 10:50 +0800
                      Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2012-05-28 16:32 +0100
                        Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> - 2012-05-29 12:11 +0800
                          Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Duncan Snowden <duncan_s@talktalk.net> - 2012-05-31 17:34 +0100
    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 Groepaz <groepaz@gmx.net> - 2012-04-23 14:27 +0200
    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 "Pedro" <pcm2000@teleline.es> - 2012-04-26 01:03 +0200
    Re: ZX Spectrum vs Commodore 64 rogerjowett <rogerjowett@gmail.com> - 2012-05-18 05:21 -0700

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#1075

Guesser wrote:
> On 22/05/2012 09:50, Clocky wrote:
>> Guesser wrote:
>>> Didn't commodore have to stick capacitors on clock lines to make the
>>> memory work because it was missing clock edges or something?
>>
>> No.
>>
>
> That's not the way Bil Herd tells it... Maybe I misunderstood his
> reminiscences about battling with the production engineers messing
> with the design slapping caps across RAS/CAS etc to get dram timings
> working.

Whatever, it's not like the attribute clash fault and using faulty 64k chips 
in the ZX were such elegant production solutions either.

Not having a joystick port is unforgiveable.

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#1076

On 22/05/2012 11:48, Clocky wrote:
> Whatever, it's not like the attribute clash fault and using faulty 64k chips
> in the ZX were such elegant production solutions either.

The C64 also has a cell attribute mode, so if you're calling that a 
fault, it's one shared by the C64. Using the working part of faulty 
chips is still a common solution to avoid waste and reduce cost today 
(many dual-core chips are actually faulty quad-core chips).

> Not having a joystick port is unforgiveable.

Is the C64 a 'proper computer' or a games machine? You can't have it 
both ways.

The C64 was the cheap option in the US (where the Apple II was the 
'proper computer') and the Spectrum was the cheap option in the UK 
(which unlike the US was still in recession).

Both machines had their technical merits, but both are 30 years old, and 
arguing over which was better, like arguing over whether Budweiser or 
Miller is the best beer, is a futile and pointless excercise. There have 
been better computers, and beers, around for a long time.

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#1078

On Tue, 22 May 2012, Andrew Owen wrote:

> Both machines had their technical merits, but both are 30 years old, and 
> arguing over which was better, like arguing over whether Budweiser or Miller 
> is the best beer,

Well that one is easy - neither.

I'd struggle to even class either *as* beer.

deKay
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#1090

deKay wrote:
> On Tue, 22 May 2012, Andrew Owen wrote:
>
>> Both machines had their technical merits, but both are 30 years old,
>> and arguing over which was better, like arguing over whether
>> Budweiser or Miller is the best beer,
>
> Well that one is easy - neither.
>
> I'd struggle to even class either *as* beer.
>

If you are talking about the American crap called Budweiser then I agree 
wholeheartedly... but the real Czech Budweiser (Budvar) tasted bloody good 
when I was in Prague :-) 

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#1114

Clocky wrote:

> If you are talking about the American crap called Budweiser then I
> agree wholeheartedly... but the real Czech Budweiser (Budvar) tasted
> bloody good when I was in Prague :-)

so it is ;-)

Try 'Staro Brno' ('Old Brno'; 'Brno' is a town...) next time, my
favourite beside Budweisser.
Darker, less carbon dioxide, deeper taste.... (spicy, similar to
budweisser)


-- 
Daniel Mandic

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#1121

Daniel Mandic wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>
>> If you are talking about the American crap called Budweiser then I
>> agree wholeheartedly... but the real Czech Budweiser (Budvar) tasted
>> bloody good when I was in Prague :-)
>
> so it is ;-)
>
> Try 'Staro Brno' ('Old Brno'; 'Brno' is a town...) next time, my
> favourite beside Budweisser.
> Darker, less carbon dioxide, deeper taste.... (spicy, similar to
> budweisser)

Will try if I see it. And I know of Brno, I passed through there and my 
rifle was made there too ;-)

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#1125

Clocky wrote:

> Daniel Mandic wrote:
> > Clocky wrote:

> > Darker, less carbon dioxide, deeper taste.... (spicy, similar to
> > budweisser)

> Will try if I see it. And I know of Brno, I passed through there and
> my rifle was made there too ;-)

What rifle?


-- 
Daniel Mandic 

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#1132

Daniel Mandic wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>
>> Daniel Mandic wrote:
>>> Clocky wrote:
>
>>> Darker, less carbon dioxide, deeper taste.... (spicy, similar to
>>> budweisser)
>
>> Will try if I see it. And I know of Brno, I passed through there and
>> my rifle was made there too ;-)
>
> What rifle?

Brno .22 Model 2E 

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#1131

On 25/05/2012 22:48, Daniel Mandic wrote:
> Clocky wrote:
>
>> If you are talking about the American crap called Budweiser then I
>> agree wholeheartedly... but the real Czech Budweiser (Budvar) tasted
>> bloody good when I was in Prague :-)
>
> so it is ;-)
>
> Try 'Staro Brno' ('Old Brno'; 'Brno' is a town...) next time, my
> favourite beside Budweisser.
> Darker, less carbon dioxide, deeper taste.... (spicy, similar to
> budweisser)

I've noticed that the native Czechs I meet at demoparties seem to shun 
Budvar, so I was beginning to suspect that it was the not-so-good (but 
still-quite-good-in-the-grand-scheme-of-beers) stuff they were fobbing 
foreigners off with. (Likewise with Finns and Lapin Kulta.)

Starobrno and Zlaty Bazant seem to be the overwhelming favourites. 
(Also, in the last two weeks I've seen two pubs in the UK with Kozel on 
tap, which is a positive development. Now, if only we can sort out the 
little detail of it being six times the price it is in CZ...)

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#1133

Matthew Westcott wrote:
> On 25/05/2012 22:48, Daniel Mandic wrote:
>> Clocky wrote:
>>
>>> If you are talking about the American crap called Budweiser then I
>>> agree wholeheartedly... but the real Czech Budweiser (Budvar) tasted
>>> bloody good when I was in Prague :-)
>>
>> so it is ;-)
>>
>> Try 'Staro Brno' ('Old Brno'; 'Brno' is a town...) next time, my
>> favourite beside Budweisser.
>> Darker, less carbon dioxide, deeper taste.... (spicy, similar to
>> budweisser)
>
> I've noticed that the native Czechs I meet at demoparties seem to shun
> Budvar, so I was beginning to suspect that it was the not-so-good (but
> still-quite-good-in-the-grand-scheme-of-beers) stuff they were fobbing
> foreigners off with. (Likewise with Finns and Lapin Kulta.)
>

Could be, but in any case it's better than the Fosters, Heinekin and Corona 
et al rubbish they try to pass off as beer.

By far my favourites were Belgian beers anyway.

> Starobrno and Zlaty Bazant seem to be the overwhelming favourites.
> (Also, in the last two weeks I've seen two pubs in the UK with Kozel
> on tap, which is a positive development. Now, if only we can sort out
> the little detail of it being six times the price it is in CZ...)

I'll have to look out or those too.

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#1141

Il 27/05/2012 04:41, Clocky ha scritto:

> Could be, but in any case it's better than the Fosters, Heinekin and Corona
> et al rubbish they try to pass off as beer.

I don't drink much malt-based alcohol (I'm weak to malt-based alcohol, I 
can drink 30°-40° Italian liquors w/o issue but a pint of beer (or 
somewhat more) is enough for me) but I guess that there's should be 
"everyday pints and "pub/special occasion" pints....

Best regards from Italy,
dott. Piergiorgio.

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#1155

Matthew Westcott wrote:

> I've noticed that the native Czechs I meet at demoparties seem to
> shun Budvar, so I was beginning to suspect that it was the
> not-so-good (but still-quite-good-in-the-grand-scheme-of-beers) stuff
> they were fobbing foreigners off with. (Likewise with Finns and Lapin
> Kulta.)

I wasn't a Goesser-Beer (austrian, styrian-beer, good water...) liker
before 7 or 9 years. It was too bitter for me.
It's still having the typical Goesser taste today, which many natives
dislike, but it got better for some reason (they broadbanded the taste,
IMHO ...it might be also that my taste changed) and it became my
favourite austrian beer.

Might be, that Bud did something similar, but IMO (indeed, Bud has been
better) they lost their old taste, most probably for profit reasons
(cheaper) :-(.
I am pretty sure they can again...

> Starobrno and Zlaty Bazant seem to be the overwhelming favourites.
> (Also, in the last two weeks I've seen two pubs in the UK with Kozel
> on tap, which is a positive development. Now, if only we can sort out
> the little detail of it being six times the price it is in CZ...)

A Kilkenny or a Guinness, might be even cheaper than in the U.K.,
here.... (it's not really more expensive than other
special-local-beers. Half a liter of Kilkenny, wonderful ale..., is
AFAIK about 3-4 Euro in an english or/and an irish 'kind' of pub here)


-- 
Daniel Mandic

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#1160

Matthew Westcott wrote on 26. May 2012:
>
> I've noticed that the native Czechs I meet at demoparties seem to shun
> Budvar, so I was beginning to suspect that it was the not-so-good (but
> still-quite-good-in-the-grand-scheme-of-beers) stuff they were fobbing
> foreigners off with. (Likewise with Finns and Lapin Kulta.)

Seems many countries offer crappy beer mainly for export. The natives
enjoy the better stuff, which might not be available abroad.

I heard that for the Australian Foster's and the German Beck's. *g*
-- 
Andreas
My      Commodore     64     classic     game     music     page      at
http://www.ankman.de/commodore-64-sid-music/

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#1178

Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> Matthew Westcott wrote on 26. May 2012:
>>
>> I've noticed that the native Czechs I meet at demoparties seem to
>> shun Budvar, so I was beginning to suspect that it was the
>> not-so-good (but still-quite-good-in-the-grand-scheme-of-beers)
>> stuff they were fobbing foreigners off with. (Likewise with Finns
>> and Lapin Kulta.)
>
> Seems many countries offer crappy beer mainly for export. The natives
> enjoy the better stuff, which might not be available abroad.
>
> I heard that for the Australian Foster's and the German Beck's. *g*

Not many in Australia drink Foster's, but there is worse beer domestically 
that is much more popular, like VB. Becks is at least drinkable. 

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#1189

Clocky wrote on 30. May 2012:
>
> Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> Matthew Westcott wrote on 26. May 2012:
>>>
>>> I've noticed that the native Czechs I meet at demoparties seem to
>>> shun Budvar, so I was beginning to suspect that it was the
>>> not-so-good (but still-quite-good-in-the-grand-scheme-of-beers)
>>> stuff they were fobbing foreigners off with. (Likewise with Finns
>>> and Lapin Kulta.)
>>
>> Seems many countries offer crappy beer mainly for export. The natives
>> enjoy the better stuff, which might not be available abroad.
>>
>> I heard that for the Australian Foster's and the German Beck's. *g*
>
> Not many in Australia drink Foster's, but there is worse beer domestically 
> that is much more popular, like VB. Becks is at least drinkable. 

I prefer Foster's over Beck's though. But Germans, Australians and other
exporters have better beer they keep for themselves. :-)
-- 
Andreas
My      Commodore     64     classic     game     music     page      at
http://www.ankman.de/commodore-64-sid-music/

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#1190

* Andreas Kohlbach:
> I prefer Foster's over Beck's though. But Germans, Australians and other
> exporters have better beer they keep for themselves. :-)

Which is one of the reasons why noone in their sane mind will drink Heineken
Export out of free will.

-- 
Martijn van Buul - pino@dohd.org 

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#1191

Martijn van Buul wrote:
> * Andreas Kohlbach:
>> I prefer Foster's over Beck's though. But Germans, Australians and
>> other exporters have better beer they keep for themselves. :-)
>
> Which is one of the reasons why noone in their sane mind will drink
> Heineken Export out of free will.

Heineken is shit, no question. 99% of Australian beers are crap too.
Give me a Belgian brew any day of the week... 

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#1158

On Thu, 24 May 2012, Clocky wrote:

>> Well that one is easy - neither.
>>
>> I'd struggle to even class either *as* beer.
>>
>
> If you are talking about the American crap called Budweiser then I agree
> wholeheartedly... but the real Czech Budweiser (Budvar) tasted bloody good
> when I was in Prague :-)

This is true.

deKay
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#1080

On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:47:47 +0100 the suspected witch Andrew Owen
chanted this heresy:

> Both machines had their technical merits, but both are 30 years old, and 
> arguing over which was better, [...], is a futile and pointless
> exercise. There have been better computers, [...], around for a long
> time.

Burn the heretic!

Chris


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#1092

On 22 May 2012 18:19:06 +0100
"Chris Young" <chris.usenet@mail-filter.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 May 2012 12:47:47 +0100 the suspected witch Andrew Owen
> chanted this heresy:
> 
> > Both machines had their technical merits, but both are 30 years
> > old, and arguing over which was better, [...], is a futile and
> > pointless exercise. There have been better computers, [...], around
> > for a long time.
> 
> Burn the heretic!

Aye, burn him! We'll have none of his heathen "reason" here! Followers
of the false God "common sense" are an abomination! For verily doth the
Good Book not say, in Appendix B, "The argument for a function is no
good for some reason"? The *argument* is no good for some *reason*,
bretheren! Aye, reason! Our Lord Clive has no patience for such ungodly
things and punishes its practitioners with Error A. Think on that, my
friends!

Take sides and follow them blindly or be damned for eternity! DAMNED, I
say!

(What? Why are you all looking at me like that?)

-- 
Duncan Snowden.

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