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Re: Anybody out there?

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On 9/18/2015 5:49 PM, Michael J. Mahon wrote:
> rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/18/2015 2:31 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 18/09/15 18:45, Norbert Möndjen wrote:
>>>> F8BOE wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> The RPi or even the RPi2 as a full featured computer... You can
>>>>> forget it!
>>>>> The RPi2 with Ubuntu Mate is slower than my P III 800MHz 512MB RAM (Dell
>>>>> GX110) running Mageia... OK wrong example... Perhaps.
>>>>
>>>>    I have been grown up with zx81, cpc64, commodores c64, amigas and
>>>> all that
>>>> stuff. Yes they was full fetured computers which have done a lot of work.
>>>> Even the first PCs on 8088 or 8086 Basis have done a lot of work and
>>>> would
>>>> be still able to do most of the buisness nowerdays. That people get so
>>>> stupid and lost there imagination so far that they need for every
>>>> small shit
>>>> a graphical help is a pitty. Up til now nobody could tell me why I
>>>> need for
>>>> EMail, Calculations, Texting or similar things a graphical System. Infact
>>>> with a Standardeditor and a bit of Tex I am finished in a tenth of the
>>>> time.
>>>> Yes I am now using a full featured computer with all the shiny things
>>>> just
>>>> for fun. But I am working in the embedded computing area and trust me
>>>> what
>>>> we are doing with hardware which is even less powerfull than the
>>>> raspberry
>>>> is astonishing. 2018 we will start a programm to launsch 900
>>>> satelittes to
>>>> put cheap internet all over the world. Each satelitte must be below
>>>> 50Kg and
>>>> have a powerconsumption below 20W. That is a call for embedded computing.
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Ciao Nobbe
>>>>
>>> +1000
>>> A PDP/11 could have been outperformed by an 8086 with 128Mbyte of RAM if
>>> it had had Unix on it...
>>>
>>> And IIRC those PDPS are still there controlling all sorts of industrial
>>> kit.
>>
>> I think that is a bit of a stretch.  The last PDP11 I saw was on a piece
>> of electronic assembly equipment going to the dump some 10 years ago.
>
> Probably true for electronic assembly equipment; less true for paper
> mills...
>
> There are still stories of Apple II's being used in process control and lab
> automation--and even the occasional veterinary office. ;-)
>
> "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

How do they fix them when they *do* break?  No computer runs forever.  I 
can't see how the Nuke plants could be running on PDP11s.  They haven't 
been made for decades.  Where do they get their spares?

-- 

Rick

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Anybody out there? F8BOE <f8boe@bluemail.ch> - 2015-09-16 10:20 +0200
  Re: Anybody out there? Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-09-16 08:40 +0000
  Re: Anybody out there? David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-09-16 09:51 +0100
    Re: Anybody out there? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2015-09-16 20:12 +0100
  Re: Anybody out there? Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-09-16 09:26 +0000
    Re: Anybody out there? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-09-16 11:46 +0000
      Re: Anybody out there? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 11:18 -0400
        Re: Anybody out there? alister <alister.nospam.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2015-09-16 17:39 +0000
          Re: Anybody out there? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody out there? Björn Lundin <b.f.lundin@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 20:58 +0200
              Re: Anybody out there? Stefan Enzinger <mindoms@aon.at> - 2015-09-18 00:32 +0200
              Re: Anybody out there? druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2015-09-18 09:30 +0100
  Re: Anybody out there? Tony van der Hoff <tony@vanderhoff.org> - 2015-09-16 14:12 +0200
    Re: Anybody out there? Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2015-09-16 16:02 +0100
    Re: Anybody out there? mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-09-16 17:58 +0100
      Re: Anybody out there? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-16 13:56 -0400
  Re: Anybody out there? Norbert Möndjen <n.moendjen@vodafone.de> - 2015-09-18 19:45 +0200
    Re: Anybody out there? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-18 19:31 +0100
      Re: Anybody out there? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 15:13 -0400
        Re: Anybody out there? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-18 22:05 +0100
          Re: Anybody out there? Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2015-09-18 16:49 -0500
          Re: Anybody out there? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-09-18 22:40 +0000
          Re: Anybody out there? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-18 22:29 -0400
            Re: Anybody out there? David James <david@tcs01.demon.co.uk> - 2015-09-21 23:12 +0000
              Re: Anybody out there? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-21 19:42 -0400
                Re: Anybody out there? David James <david@tcs01.demon.co.uk> - 2015-09-21 23:53 +0000
        Re: Anybody out there? Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2015-09-18 16:49 -0500
          Re: Anybody out there? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:35 -0400
            Re: Anybody out there? Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2015-09-19 19:51 +0300
              Re: Anybody out there? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 13:10 -0400
                Re: Anybody out there? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-20 10:07 +0100
            Re: Anybody out there? Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2015-09-19 17:37 +0000
              Re: Anybody out there? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 14:31 -0400
                Re: Anybody out there? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-19 23:09 -0400
                Re: Anybody out there? jeffj@panix.com (Jeff Jonas) - 2015-10-11 00:21 -0400
                Re: Anybody out there? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-10-11 12:09 -0400
            Re: Anybody out there? Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> - 2015-09-19 14:35 -0500
            Re: Anybody out there? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-20 10:05 +0100
              Re: Anybody out there? mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-09-20 10:56 +0100
              Re: Anybody out there? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2015-09-20 10:31 -0400
                Re: Anybody out there? rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 11:12 -0400
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                Re: Anybody out there? Alan Adams <alan@adamshome.org.uk> - 2015-09-28 20:33 +0100
                Re: Anybody out there? Paul <paul@pcserviceselectronics.co.uk> - 2015-09-20 17:15 +0100

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