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| From | rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.raspberry-pi |
| Subject | Re: Something like a KVM switch for multiple Raspberry Pis |
| Date | 2015-09-19 11:31 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <mtjv1d$8fd$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 9/18/2015 3:17 PM, James Harris wrote:
> "rickman" <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mthne9$pjl$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 9/18/2015 2:42 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
>
> ....
>
>>> Put that way, it sounds very like an RPi with USB keyboard+mouse + HDMI
>>> monitor plus an Ethernet hub/switch connecting all the RPIs together.
>>>
>>> Use the one with keyboard etc to login to the other headless RPis.
>>
>> Exactly. Unless there is some advantage to having a device on the pi
>> that actually plugs into the HDMI/USB connectors to emulate the
>> physical devices.
>
> Sure. Remote desktop or VNC etc can only work on a running OS and, what
> is more, a running OS which has suitable apps. For bare-metal
> programming, OS development and to see what's happening in the boot
> process you need access to the real inputs and outputs.
I'm divorcing from the follow on conversation and addressing this part.
Here is a block diagram of what I am reading is needed.
rPi
------+
USB |----- Keyboard
USB |----- Mouse
HDMI |----- Monitor
Pwr |---------------Wall wart
Eth |---+
------+ |
|
| +-------+ keyboard +-----+
| | |----------| |
+---| Eth | mouse | |
| Thing |----------| rPi |
+---| Eth | HDMI | |
| | |----------| |
| +-------+ +-----+
|
| +-------+ keyboard +-----+
| | |----------| |
+---| Eth | mouse | |
| Thing |----------| rPi |
+---| Eth | HDMI | |
| | |----------| |
| +-------+ +-----+
|
| +-------+ keyboard +-----+
| | |----------| |
+---| Eth | mouse | |
| Thing |----------| rPi |
+---| Eth | HDMI | |
| | |----------| |
V +-------+ +-----+
I think this is what we are describing. A main rPi (or some other
device such as a PC) with a real keyboard, mouse and display connects
via Ethernet to a series of "things" which provide the emulated mouse,
kayboard and HDMI signals to a collection of rPi (or even other
devices). The main computer requires special software to drive the
"things" via the Ethernet and the "things" will be some special hardware
which responds to the commands and emulate the three I/Os.
I didn't draw the power because that is not clear to me if it is
intended for the "thing" to channel power to the rPi or if the rPi will
power the thing. Since the keyboard/mouse will be plugged into at least
one USB port, the rPi would power the "thing".
I don't see a need for a special "thing" on the head computer which has
the physical keyboard/mouse/monitor attached. This unit is just a
computer with special software. The "things" will need a slave USB port
and an HDMI port to emulate a monitor, so I think that will require some
special hardware. I am not familiar with the HDMI spec, so I don't know
exactly what will be required for that. But otherwise, this will be not
too much different from an rPi needing enough of a CPU to handle two
Ethernet ports and being able to shuttle the HDMI graphics around.
I drew the Ethernet as a daisy chain. Perhaps that should use a
conventional star configuration with a hub/switch instead.
Another I/O that might be useful is something to force a reset, possibly
even a power switch. I run into a need for that more often than I like.
Thoughts?
--
Rick
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Re: Something like a KVM switch for multiple Raspberry Pis rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 15:09 -0400
Re: Something like a KVM switch for multiple Raspberry Pis "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 20:17 +0100
Re: Something like a KVM switch for multiple Raspberry Pis Rob <nomail@example.com> - 2015-09-18 21:35 +0000
Re: Something like a KVM switch for multiple Raspberry Pis "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-18 23:19 +0100
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Re: Something like a KVM switch for multiple Raspberry Pis "James Harris" <james.harris.1@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:19 +0100
Re: Something like a KVM switch for multiple Raspberry Pis rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 11:31 -0400
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