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What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the Apple Apologists on this newsgroup?

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#117661

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-14 18:15 +0000
Message-ID	<pkv68e$h0b$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117628

On 7 Aug 2018 08:29:50 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Go ahead and try to explain to the world why you believe the cloud is
> not the internet, doofus.

Note that the Apple Apologists like Jolly Roger constantly re-define terms
when they're shown to be completely incorrect on the facts they *guessed*
at.

What's interesting is that the Apple Apologists like nospam and Jolly Roger
have a very consistent set of common traits that they exude in *all* their
posts, as witnessed, yet again, by nospam, just now, in this Windows
thread, where everyone is talking facts, except nospam!
  Why doesn't Apple just let you manage your iOS file system natively on Windows? 
  <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.ipad/ddcUPKpR7pc>

What's amazing is that these particular iOS users have no need for facts.
*Facts don't fit into these iOS users' wholly imaginary belief system.*

In this case, nospam made his classic comment that something could be done,
but of course, he just made it up - and when challenged - he made his next
most classic response saying "he told you so", which is so warn that nospam
lost his credibility years ago, as did Jolly Roger and Savageduck, Lewis,
BK@OnRamp, Joe, and a host of the other dozen Apple Apologists.

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#117745

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-19 15:34 +0000
Message-ID	<plc2ms$6d1$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117661

There is another common psychological trait of Apple Apologists that
happened in this hilarious thread today by Alan Baker (a Mac apologist).

 Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/-htvSf_DBpY/JEGc5d6nAAAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/-htvSf_DBpY/ybl_fIOoAAAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/-htvSf_DBpY/xxH5NvSpAAAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.sys.mac.system/-htvSf_DBpY/UoCW4erDAAAJ>

Whenever the Apple Apologists make their ridiculous statements denying
fact, I always confront the bullies frontally, by asking which fact they
deny.

Alan Baker, after having denied *all facts* a priori, is now endlessly
playing his silly semantic games because it was proven he denied all the
facts and yet - he didn't even *read* the references - and - worse - Alan
Baker can't eve list a *single fact* that he denies.

* They deny facts, a priori, and can't even list the facts that they deny.
* When caught, they endlessly complain about "quote snipping"
... because they dislike being pinned to any statements they make - where
they prefer their silly semantic games to take the forefront away from the
facts.

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#117764

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-20 02:32 +0000
Message-ID	<pld972$1gg$4@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117745

On 19 Aug 2018 15:34:52 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:

> * They deny facts, a priori, and can't even list the facts that they deny.
> * When caught, they endlessly complain about "quote snipping"

Here is the current summary ... each of which is referenced in this thread.

===========================================================================
. They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary app functionality
. They then exclaim that it's been told to us many times how to do it! 
...
. They almost never back up statements with actual referenced facts
. They incessantly play childish semantic games when faced with those facts
...
. They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened 
. They then wittily respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
...
. They're never purposefully helpful by helping the OP answer the question
. They post worthless retorts, all of which lack any added technical value
...
. They consistently blame Android for most of Apple's app & hardware faults 
. They consistently find the absolute worst price:performance comparisons
...
. They actually believe that a well-documented process is too complex!
. They literally believe elapsed time is proof of actual resolution time.
...
. They deny facts a priori - without even reading the referenced facts!
. And then they complain about quote snipping of their silly semantic games
===========================================================================

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#117783

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-20 22:48 +0000
Message-ID	<plfggb$cm2$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117542

On 23 Jul 2018 00:42:34 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:
> Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?

BTW, here are some *Apple Apologist* traits in the news...

 Confessions of an *Apple apologist*: The iPhone 6 disappoints
 <http://www.bgr.in/news/confessions-of-an-apple-apologist-the-iphone-6-disappoints/>

 MacRumors- what is an *Apple Apologist* anyway?
 <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apologists.2093606/>

 The latest *Apple apologist* meme: the post-spec era
 <https://betanews.com/2011/11/15/the-latest-apple-apologist-meme-the-post-spec-era/>
 
 To all the *Apple apologist* on Big Screens
 <https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/to-all-the-apple-apologist-on-big-screens.1774672/>
 
https://mashable.com/2016/07/23/killing-headphone-jack-sucks/
 "That's the response I expect to hear from all *the apologists* who
  think that smartphones without headphone jacks are NBD."

And, of course, on Usenet:
  Why do *Apple Apologists* lie so much about iOS capabilities? 
  <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/98CPbQfNTV8/dTVK7PesBgAJ>

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#118176

From	"Arlen H. Holder" <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-09-19 15:22 +0000
Message-ID	<pntpis$6uv$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117783

On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 22:48:44 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
Yet again, the Apple Apologists _claim_ imaginary functionality, where they
sent poor Ant on a sadistic wild goose chase, and where Ant was supremely
unsuccessful with the Airdrop asphyxiation, after failing with the iTunes
abomination.
 What's the best way to copy someone's iDevice's photos to another user's MacBook locally?
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/xEF1mtuvvJc>

Here's what I just wrote to the canonical Apple Apologist, nospam:
 ===================================================
1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>

The difference between you and normal people, nospam, is you're full of
shit.

You can't prove a single statement you make.
Meanwhile, _all_ mine are valid verified facts.

Think about that.
That's the difference between an adult, and an Apple Apologist.

I proved I copied 400 files from *any* mobile device (I don't even have to
own it) to any other file system (whether that be Android, Windows, iOS, or
Linux).

For what Ant was doing, from iOS to the desktop file system, it took
- 1 minute, 55 seconds

In two minutes, I did what Ant has been taking days (elapsed time) trying
to do following your classic wild goose chases.

And yet you claim it can be done - all the while you can't do it.
Classic Apple Apologist bullshit nospam.

You have zero credibility. 
You can't do 99% of what you _say_ you can do.

Meanwhile, I prove everything I say.
That's the difference between an adult, and an Apple Apologist.

1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
 <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>
 ===================================================

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#118181

From	joe <none@domain.invalid>
Date	2018-09-19 12:26 -0500
Message-ID	<pnu0rp$1k58$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#118176

On 9/19/2018 10:22 AM, Arlen H. Holder wrote:

> 
> 1 minute 55 seconds, and Ant would have been done!
>   <http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=9185854windows_to_ios.jpg>
>   ===================================================
> 

Not really. Copying files to Windows or Linux does not get them on the 
MacBook.

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#117830

From	thomas.e.elam@gmail.com
Date	2018-08-27 11:16 -0700
Message-ID	<153b083d-b5ee-4305-a0a3-0146928e38ce@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#117542

On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:42:36 PM UTC-4, Arlen Holder wrote:
> What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the typical iOS
> poster on this newsgroup?
> 
> The question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have, for
> decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits which have caused
> endless discussions because Apple Apologists don't seem to like facts.
> 
> Here are the nine commonly exhibited traits of *all* the Apple Apologists:
> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS 
> 
> What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
> again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>
> 
> The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
> couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another! 
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>
> 
> Meanwhile, Jolly Roger yet again wholly fabricated imaginary iOS
> functionality for the poor OP to attempt to follow (and fail), since both
> nospam and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate iOS functionality that just
> doesn't exist, whenever they see a technical question that they don't like.
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/SGhljjBYCAAJ>
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/VqzlcQ0hCAAJ>
> 
> When the OP tried Jolly Roger's fabricated method, is it any surprise it
> failed?
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/C78-NjwnCAAJ>
> 
> NOTE: Often Jolly Roger responds with hate-filled fifth-grade vitriol when
> confronted with facts, but in this particular test thread, he remained calm
> so we won't add that to the common traits.
> 
> Of course, nospam not only fabricates imaginary iOS functionality:
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/Cf3bIIcQCAAJ>
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/1YHAnJEnCAAJ>
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/jsxtlTchCAAJ>
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/3naulH4cCAAJ>
> But nospam also claims that he's told us how to do (what can't be done)
> many times, and we just won't listen to him.
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/yk6sP4I2CAAJ>
> And even better, nospam claims that people have been successful with their
> imaginary iOS functioanlity!
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/HZYE3iscCAAJ>
> 
> And yet, I told the OP it can't be done (because it can't be done).
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7rHAL_QXCAAJ>
> 
> And so did sms, who is another credible poster on the iOS newsgroups who is
> almost never wrong simply because he speaks facts. (Facts are funny that
> way.)
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/u21p0MMaCAAJ>
> 
> Meanwhile, David Empson, the most knowedgeable and credible poster on the
> iOs newsgroups by far, backed up what both sms and I said:
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/z3kVVoc-CAAJ>
> 
> Hence, the question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have,
> for decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits:
> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS 
> 
> Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?

The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. In some cases quicker and easier.

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#117832

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2018-08-27 11:21 -0700
Message-ID	<pm1fev$1oig$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#117830

On 2018-08-27 11:16 AM, thomas.e.elam@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:42:36 PM UTC-4, Arlen Holder wrote:
>> What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the typical iOS
>> poster on this newsgroup?
>>
>> The question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have, for
>> decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits which have caused
>> endless discussions because Apple Apologists don't seem to like facts.
>>
>> Here are the nine commonly exhibited traits of *all* the Apple Apologists:
>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
>>
>> What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
>> again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>
>>
>> The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
>> couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another!
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>
>>
>> Meanwhile, Jolly Roger yet again wholly fabricated imaginary iOS
>> functionality for the poor OP to attempt to follow (and fail), since both
>> nospam and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate iOS functionality that just
>> doesn't exist, whenever they see a technical question that they don't like.
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/SGhljjBYCAAJ>
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/VqzlcQ0hCAAJ>
>>
>> When the OP tried Jolly Roger's fabricated method, is it any surprise it
>> failed?
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/C78-NjwnCAAJ>
>>
>> NOTE: Often Jolly Roger responds with hate-filled fifth-grade vitriol when
>> confronted with facts, but in this particular test thread, he remained calm
>> so we won't add that to the common traits.
>>
>> Of course, nospam not only fabricates imaginary iOS functionality:
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/Cf3bIIcQCAAJ>
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/1YHAnJEnCAAJ>
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/jsxtlTchCAAJ>
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/3naulH4cCAAJ>
>> But nospam also claims that he's told us how to do (what can't be done)
>> many times, and we just won't listen to him.
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/yk6sP4I2CAAJ>
>> And even better, nospam claims that people have been successful with their
>> imaginary iOS functioanlity!
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/HZYE3iscCAAJ>
>>
>> And yet, I told the OP it can't be done (because it can't be done).
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7rHAL_QXCAAJ>
>>
>> And so did sms, who is another credible poster on the iOS newsgroups who is
>> almost never wrong simply because he speaks facts. (Facts are funny that
>> way.)
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/u21p0MMaCAAJ>
>>
>> Meanwhile, David Empson, the most knowedgeable and credible poster on the
>> iOs newsgroups by far, backed up what both sms and I said:
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/z3kVVoc-CAAJ>
>>
>> Hence, the question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have,
>> for decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits:
>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
>>
>> Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?
> 
> The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. In some cases quicker and easier.
> 

Why don't you tell everyone how many phones you've gone through in the 
last few years to get to this point.

Just so that people can judge your credibility.

:-)

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#117833

From	thomas.e.elam@gmail.com
Date	2018-08-27 11:26 -0700
Message-ID	<35a93049-c580-47a2-9b0f-dfb803f81883@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#117832

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2018-08-27 11:16 AM, thomas.e.elam@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:42:36 PM UTC-4, Arlen Holder wrote:
> >> What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the typical iOS
> >> poster on this newsgroup?
> >>
> >> The question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have, for
> >> decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits which have caused
> >> endless discussions because Apple Apologists don't seem to like facts.
> >>
> >> Here are the nine commonly exhibited traits of *all* the Apple Apologists:
> >> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
> >> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
> >> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
> >> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
> >> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
> >> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
> >> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
> >> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
> >> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
> >>
> >> What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
> >> again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>
> >>
> >> The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
> >> couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another!
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, Jolly Roger yet again wholly fabricated imaginary iOS
> >> functionality for the poor OP to attempt to follow (and fail), since both
> >> nospam and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate iOS functionality that just
> >> doesn't exist, whenever they see a technical question that they don't like.
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/SGhljjBYCAAJ>
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/VqzlcQ0hCAAJ>
> >>
> >> When the OP tried Jolly Roger's fabricated method, is it any surprise it
> >> failed?
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/C78-NjwnCAAJ>
> >>
> >> NOTE: Often Jolly Roger responds with hate-filled fifth-grade vitriol when
> >> confronted with facts, but in this particular test thread, he remained calm
> >> so we won't add that to the common traits.
> >>
> >> Of course, nospam not only fabricates imaginary iOS functionality:
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/Cf3bIIcQCAAJ>
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/1YHAnJEnCAAJ>
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/jsxtlTchCAAJ>
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/3naulH4cCAAJ>
> >> But nospam also claims that he's told us how to do (what can't be done)
> >> many times, and we just won't listen to him.
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/yk6sP4I2CAAJ>
> >> And even better, nospam claims that people have been successful with their
> >> imaginary iOS functioanlity!
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/HZYE3iscCAAJ>
> >>
> >> And yet, I told the OP it can't be done (because it can't be done).
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7rHAL_QXCAAJ>
> >>
> >> And so did sms, who is another credible poster on the iOS newsgroups who is
> >> almost never wrong simply because he speaks facts. (Facts are funny that
> >> way.)
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/u21p0MMaCAAJ>
> >>
> >> Meanwhile, David Empson, the most knowedgeable and credible poster on the
> >> iOs newsgroups by far, backed up what both sms and I said:
> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/z3kVVoc-CAAJ>
> >>
> >> Hence, the question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have,
> >> for decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits:
> >> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
> >> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
> >> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
> >> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
> >> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
> >> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
> >> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
> >> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
> >> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
> >>
> >> Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?
> > 
> > The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. In some cases quicker and easier.
> > 
> 
> Why don't you tell everyone how many phones you've gone through in the 
> last few years to get to this point.
> 
> Just so that people can judge your credibility.
> 
> :-)

Actually, I posted that just to see if you are still stalking me across Usenet. You bit on it, asshole Liarboy that you are.

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#117835

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2018-08-27 11:29 -0700
Message-ID	<pm1ftc$1p6h$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#117833

On 2018-08-27 11:26 AM, thomas.e.elam@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2018-08-27 11:16 AM, thomas.e.elam@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:42:36 PM UTC-4, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>>> What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the typical iOS
>>>> poster on this newsgroup?
>>>>
>>>> The question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have, for
>>>> decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits which have caused
>>>> endless discussions because Apple Apologists don't seem to like facts.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the nine commonly exhibited traits of *all* the Apple Apologists:
>>>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
>>>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
>>>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
>>>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
>>>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
>>>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
>>>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
>>>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
>>>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
>>>>
>>>> What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
>>>> again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
>>>> couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another!
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, Jolly Roger yet again wholly fabricated imaginary iOS
>>>> functionality for the poor OP to attempt to follow (and fail), since both
>>>> nospam and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate iOS functionality that just
>>>> doesn't exist, whenever they see a technical question that they don't like.
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/SGhljjBYCAAJ>
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/VqzlcQ0hCAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> When the OP tried Jolly Roger's fabricated method, is it any surprise it
>>>> failed?
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/C78-NjwnCAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> NOTE: Often Jolly Roger responds with hate-filled fifth-grade vitriol when
>>>> confronted with facts, but in this particular test thread, he remained calm
>>>> so we won't add that to the common traits.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, nospam not only fabricates imaginary iOS functionality:
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/Cf3bIIcQCAAJ>
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/1YHAnJEnCAAJ>
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/jsxtlTchCAAJ>
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/3naulH4cCAAJ>
>>>> But nospam also claims that he's told us how to do (what can't be done)
>>>> many times, and we just won't listen to him.
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/yk6sP4I2CAAJ>
>>>> And even better, nospam claims that people have been successful with their
>>>> imaginary iOS functioanlity!
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/HZYE3iscCAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> And yet, I told the OP it can't be done (because it can't be done).
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7rHAL_QXCAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> And so did sms, who is another credible poster on the iOS newsgroups who is
>>>> almost never wrong simply because he speaks facts. (Facts are funny that
>>>> way.)
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/u21p0MMaCAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> Meanwhile, David Empson, the most knowedgeable and credible poster on the
>>>> iOs newsgroups by far, backed up what both sms and I said:
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/z3kVVoc-CAAJ>
>>>>
>>>> Hence, the question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have,
>>>> for decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits:
>>>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
>>>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
>>>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
>>>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
>>>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
>>>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
>>>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
>>>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
>>>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
>>>>
>>>> Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?
>>>
>>> The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. In some cases quicker and easier.
>>>
>>
>> Why don't you tell everyone how many phones you've gone through in the
>> last few years to get to this point.
>>
>> Just so that people can judge your credibility.
>>
>> :-)
> 
> Actually, I posted that just to see if you are still stalking me across Usenet. You bit on it, asshole Liarboy that you are.
> 

LOL!

I'm "stalking" you because I read a group about Macs, Liarboy?

This from the guy who carefully scours the net looking for my racing 
results and some way he can spin them?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLol

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#117836

From	Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com>
Date	2018-08-27 11:31 -0700
Message-ID	<fffdc66b-4a3d-4e88-b356-2f752e83655e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#117835

On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 2:29:05 PM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
> On 2018-08-27 11:26 AM, thomas.e.elam@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
> >> On 2018-08-27 11:16 AM, thomas.e.elam@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:42:36 PM UTC-4, Arlen Holder wrote:
> >>>> What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the typical iOS
> >>>> poster on this newsgroup?
> >>>>
> >>>> The question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have, for
> >>>> decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits which have caused
> >>>> endless discussions because Apple Apologists don't seem to like facts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here are the nine commonly exhibited traits of *all* the Apple Apologists:
> >>>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
> >>>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
> >>>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
> >>>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
> >>>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
> >>>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
> >>>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
> >>>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
> >>>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
> >>>>
> >>>> What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
> >>>> again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>
> >>>>
> >>>> The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
> >>>> couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another!
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile, Jolly Roger yet again wholly fabricated imaginary iOS
> >>>> functionality for the poor OP to attempt to follow (and fail), since both
> >>>> nospam and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate iOS functionality that just
> >>>> doesn't exist, whenever they see a technical question that they don't like.
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/SGhljjBYCAAJ>
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/VqzlcQ0hCAAJ>
> >>>>
> >>>> When the OP tried Jolly Roger's fabricated method, is it any surprise it
> >>>> failed?
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/C78-NjwnCAAJ>
> >>>>
> >>>> NOTE: Often Jolly Roger responds with hate-filled fifth-grade vitriol when
> >>>> confronted with facts, but in this particular test thread, he remained calm
> >>>> so we won't add that to the common traits.
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course, nospam not only fabricates imaginary iOS functionality:
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/Cf3bIIcQCAAJ>
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/1YHAnJEnCAAJ>
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/jsxtlTchCAAJ>
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/3naulH4cCAAJ>
> >>>> But nospam also claims that he's told us how to do (what can't be done)
> >>>> many times, and we just won't listen to him.
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/yk6sP4I2CAAJ>
> >>>> And even better, nospam claims that people have been successful with their
> >>>> imaginary iOS functioanlity!
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/HZYE3iscCAAJ>
> >>>>
> >>>> And yet, I told the OP it can't be done (because it can't be done).
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7rHAL_QXCAAJ>
> >>>>
> >>>> And so did sms, who is another credible poster on the iOS newsgroups who is
> >>>> almost never wrong simply because he speaks facts. (Facts are funny that
> >>>> way.)
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/u21p0MMaCAAJ>
> >>>>
> >>>> Meanwhile, David Empson, the most knowedgeable and credible poster on the
> >>>> iOs newsgroups by far, backed up what both sms and I said:
> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/z3kVVoc-CAAJ>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hence, the question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have,
> >>>> for decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits:
> >>>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
> >>>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
> >>>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
> >>>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
> >>>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
> >>>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
> >>>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
> >>>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
> >>>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
> >>>>
> >>>> Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?
> >>>
> >>> The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. In some cases quicker and easier.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Why don't you tell everyone how many phones you've gone through in the
> >> last few years to get to this point.
> >>
> >> Just so that people can judge your credibility.
> >>
> >> :-)
> > 
> > Actually, I posted that just to see if you are still stalking me across Usenet. You bit on it, asshole Liarboy that you are.
> > 
> 
> LOL!
> 
> I'm "stalking" you because I read a group about Macs, Liarboy?
> 
> This from the guy who carefully scours the net looking for my racing 
> results and some way he can spin them?
> 
> LOLOLOLOLOLOLol

Yep, you jumped right on it! 

Your racing results take no scouring. SCCBC.NET is quite easy to find.

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#117838

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2018-08-27 11:43 -0700
Message-ID	<pm1gno$1qmc$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#117836

On 2018-08-27 11:31 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 2:29:05 PM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
>> On 2018-08-27 11:26 AM, thomas.e.elam@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 2:21:24 PM UTC-4, Alan Baker wrote:
>>>> On 2018-08-27 11:16 AM, thomas.e.elam@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:42:36 PM UTC-4, Arlen Holder wrote:
>>>>>> What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the typical iOS
>>>>>> poster on this newsgroup?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have, for
>>>>>> decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits which have caused
>>>>>> endless discussions because Apple Apologists don't seem to like facts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are the nine commonly exhibited traits of *all* the Apple Apologists:
>>>>>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
>>>>>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
>>>>>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
>>>>>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
>>>>>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
>>>>>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
>>>>>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
>>>>>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
>>>>>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
>>>>>> again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
>>>>>> couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another!
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, Jolly Roger yet again wholly fabricated imaginary iOS
>>>>>> functionality for the poor OP to attempt to follow (and fail), since both
>>>>>> nospam and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate iOS functionality that just
>>>>>> doesn't exist, whenever they see a technical question that they don't like.
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/SGhljjBYCAAJ>
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/VqzlcQ0hCAAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When the OP tried Jolly Roger's fabricated method, is it any surprise it
>>>>>> failed?
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/C78-NjwnCAAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NOTE: Often Jolly Roger responds with hate-filled fifth-grade vitriol when
>>>>>> confronted with facts, but in this particular test thread, he remained calm
>>>>>> so we won't add that to the common traits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, nospam not only fabricates imaginary iOS functionality:
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/Cf3bIIcQCAAJ>
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/1YHAnJEnCAAJ>
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/jsxtlTchCAAJ>
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/3naulH4cCAAJ>
>>>>>> But nospam also claims that he's told us how to do (what can't be done)
>>>>>> many times, and we just won't listen to him.
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/yk6sP4I2CAAJ>
>>>>>> And even better, nospam claims that people have been successful with their
>>>>>> imaginary iOS functioanlity!
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/HZYE3iscCAAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet, I told the OP it can't be done (because it can't be done).
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7rHAL_QXCAAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And so did sms, who is another credible poster on the iOS newsgroups who is
>>>>>> almost never wrong simply because he speaks facts. (Facts are funny that
>>>>>> way.)
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/u21p0MMaCAAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, David Empson, the most knowedgeable and credible poster on the
>>>>>> iOs newsgroups by far, backed up what both sms and I said:
>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/z3kVVoc-CAAJ>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hence, the question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have,
>>>>>> for decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits:
>>>>>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
>>>>>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
>>>>>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
>>>>>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
>>>>>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
>>>>>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
>>>>>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
>>>>>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
>>>>>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?
>>>>>
>>>>> The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. In some cases quicker and easier.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you tell everyone how many phones you've gone through in the
>>>> last few years to get to this point.
>>>>
>>>> Just so that people can judge your credibility.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Actually, I posted that just to see if you are still stalking me across Usenet. You bit on it, asshole Liarboy that you are.
>>>
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> I'm "stalking" you because I read a group about Macs, Liarboy?
>>
>> This from the guy who carefully scours the net looking for my racing
>> results and some way he can spin them?
>>
>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLol
> 
> Yep, you jumped right on it!

Why wouldn't I, Liarboy?

You're spreading your FUD to knew groups that I've frequented for a long 
time.

How is that "stalking you across Usenet"?

> 
> Your racing results take no scouring. SCCBC.NET is quite easy to find.

Yet you went looking for them, didn't you?

Like you went looking for my "website"...

...only it was LinkedIn page.

:-)

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#117839

From	Tom Elam <TommyE.Elam@gmail.com>
Date	2018-08-27 11:50 -0700
Message-ID	<4e6fb7f6-9816-44c8-bbb7-d07411d36df9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to	#117838

> >>>>> On Sunday, July 22, 2018 at 8:42:36 PM UTC-4, Arlen Holder wrote:
> >>>>>> What are the common well-verified psychological traits of the typical iOS
> >>>>>> poster on this newsgroup?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have, for
> >>>>>> decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits which have caused
> >>>>>> endless discussions because Apple Apologists don't seem to like facts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here are the nine commonly exhibited traits of *all* the Apple Apologists:
> >>>>>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
> >>>>>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
> >>>>>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
> >>>>>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
> >>>>>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
> >>>>>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
> >>>>>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
> >>>>>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
> >>>>>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What's psychologically interesting is that in this post, Savageduck yet
> >>>>>> again blames Android for an OP's inability to do what he wants using iOS!
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/ooCFANY5CAAJ>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The OP of that thread concurred, that it was Android's fault that he
> >>>>>> couldn't copy an app from one iOS device to another!
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7Qqc3f1dCAAJ>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile, Jolly Roger yet again wholly fabricated imaginary iOS
> >>>>>> functionality for the poor OP to attempt to follow (and fail), since both
> >>>>>> nospam and Jolly Roger incessantly fabricate iOS functionality that just
> >>>>>> doesn't exist, whenever they see a technical question that they don't like.
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/SGhljjBYCAAJ>
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/VqzlcQ0hCAAJ>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> When the OP tried Jolly Roger's fabricated method, is it any surprise it
> >>>>>> failed?
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/C78-NjwnCAAJ>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> NOTE: Often Jolly Roger responds with hate-filled fifth-grade vitriol when
> >>>>>> confronted with facts, but in this particular test thread, he remained calm
> >>>>>> so we won't add that to the common traits.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course, nospam not only fabricates imaginary iOS functionality:
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/Cf3bIIcQCAAJ>
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/1YHAnJEnCAAJ>
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/jsxtlTchCAAJ>
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/3naulH4cCAAJ>
> >>>>>> But nospam also claims that he's told us how to do (what can't be done)
> >>>>>> many times, and we just won't listen to him.
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/yk6sP4I2CAAJ>
> >>>>>> And even better, nospam claims that people have been successful with their
> >>>>>> imaginary iOS functioanlity!
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/HZYE3iscCAAJ>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And yet, I told the OP it can't be done (because it can't be done).
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/7rHAL_QXCAAJ>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And so did sms, who is another credible poster on the iOS newsgroups who is
> >>>>>> almost never wrong simply because he speaks facts. (Facts are funny that
> >>>>>> way.)
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/u21p0MMaCAAJ>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Meanwhile, David Empson, the most knowedgeable and credible poster on the
> >>>>>> iOs newsgroups by far, backed up what both sms and I said:
> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/Tufx3qIBZBw/z3kVVoc-CAAJ>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hence, the question is a psychological one where the Apple Apologists have,
> >>>>>> for decades, almost all exhibited the following common traits:
> >>>>>> * They're never purposefully helpful whenever they don't like the question
> >>>>>> * They brazenly & repeatedly fabricate wholly imaginary iOS functionality
> >>>>>> * They then exclaim that they told us many times how to do it! :)
> >>>>>> * They always "just guess" where their credibility is worthless
> >>>>>> * They almost never back up their statements with any referenced facts
> >>>>>> * They incessantly play silly childish word games when faced with facts
> >>>>>> * They consistently fabricate quoted content that never happened
> >>>>>> * Then they respond to that imaginary quoted content as if it did!
> >>>>>> * They consistently blame Android for the lack of functionality on iOS
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are those the common psychological traits of all the Apple Apologists?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. In some cases quicker and easier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Why don't you tell everyone how many phones you've gone through in the
> >>>> last few years to get to this point.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just so that people can judge your credibility.
> >>>>
> >>>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> Actually, I posted that just to see if you are still stalking me across Usenet. You bit on it, asshole Liarboy that you are.
> >>>
> >>
> >> LOL!
> >>
> >> I'm "stalking" you because I read a group about Macs, Liarboy?
> >>
> >> This from the guy who carefully scours the net looking for my racing
> >> results and some way he can spin them?
> >>
> >> LOLOLOLOLOLOLol
> > 
> > Yep, you jumped right on it!
> 
> Why wouldn't I, Liarboy?
> 
> You're spreading your FUD to knew groups that I've frequented for a long 
> time.
> 
> How is that "stalking you across Usenet"?
> 
> > 
> > Your racing results take no scouring. SCCBC.NET is quite easy to find.
> 
> Yet you went looking for them, didn't you?
> 
> Like you went looking for my "website"...
> 
> ...only it was LinkedIn page.
> 
> :-)

LOL at your expense. You were played

http://bakermedia.ca/

Just Google bakermedia vancouver

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#117840

From	Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz>
Date	2018-08-27 11:52 -0700
Message-ID	<pm1h97$1rkt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#117839

On 2018-08-27 11:50 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>> Why wouldn't I, Liarboy?
>>
>> You're spreading your FUD to knew groups that I've frequented for a long
>> time.
>>
>> How is that "stalking you across Usenet"?

Failure to answer noted.

>>
>>> Your racing results take no scouring. SCCBC.NET is quite easy to find.
>> Yet you went looking for them, didn't you?
>>
>> Like you went looking for my "website"...
>>
>> ...only it was LinkedIn page.
>>
>> :-)
> LOL at your expense. You were played

My "expense"

> 
> http://bakermedia.ca/
> 
> Just Google bakermedia vancouver

Except that wasn't what you found, and I'm not at all surprised that you 
want to walk away from your idiocy in trying to declare a LinkedIn page 
as being "[my] website"

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#117834

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2018-08-27 14:27 -0400
Message-ID	<270820181427200063%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#117830

In article <153b083d-b5ee-4305-a0a3-0146928e38ce@googlegroups.com>,
<thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. 
> In some cases quicker and easier.

bullshit. no face id, for a start.

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#117997

From	Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date	2018-09-03 23:09 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnporfq5.o2v.g.kreme@jaka.lan>
In reply to	#117830

In message <153b083d-b5ee-4305-a0a3-0146928e38ce@googlegroups.com> thomas.e.elam@gmail.com <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
> The facts are clear. I can do anything on my Moto Z that you can do on an iPhone. In some cases quicker and easier.

Hahahahahahahahah!

How about "keep your persoanl data off Google's servers?"

Moron.

-- 
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.

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#118119

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-09-12 13:43 +0000
Message-ID	<pnb552$eac$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117542

It's clear from this thread today that Apple Apologists are driven by fear.
  Comparative Resale Values of Flagship Phones, Including Variations Among Carriers 
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/VWcr8qj2bh8[1-25]>

That inordinate fear permeates even the decision about going to dealers
for automotive repairs, apparently, as evidenced by posts like this today:
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/VWcr8qj2bh8/t7hYMYN7BwAJ>

Which is filled with an inordinate *fear* permeating every decision!
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/VWcr8qj2bh8/IeXga_2RBwAJ>

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#118797

From	Arlen Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net>
Date	2018-10-09 17:32 +0000
Message-ID	<ppionc$d7m$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117542

By way of further proof ... since adults are all about facts...

In this post from moments ago, the Apple Apologist nospam makes the
*classic* move of *blaming the user* for iTunes destroying an entire music
collection sans any contemporary warning whatsoever!
 How do I redownload and reinstall an older version of iOS app into my iPhone 4S?
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/56nEgAZIjGk/rv0rsG7zBAAJ>

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#118868

From	Arlen Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net>
Date	2018-10-14 23:01 +0000
Message-ID	<pq0hsb$7cl$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117542

This thread is _perfect_ proving exactly how _stupid_ Apple Apologists are!
<https://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com/26HhpfRQ/ios-12-0-1>
o *Chris in Makati* -> From: Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>
o *BK@onRamp* -> From: BK@Onramp.net
o *Meanie* -> From: Meanie <Me@gmail.com>
o *Your Name* -> From: Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
o *Hemidactylus* -> From: Hemidactylus <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>

That thread contained trivial facts.
Easily proven facts.
Really _simple_ facts.

And yet, each of the Apple Apologists above, got those simple facts wrong!
Consistently.
Repeatedly.

Not only did they get those simple facts wrong though.
They _ridiculed_ the two people on this thread who had their facts right!

What's amazing, actually, is that the Apologists above act like children.
o They got even the _simplest_ of facts dead wrong
o Every one of their conclusions, as a result, was dead wrong
o They ridiculed the two people who had their facts right!

This thread is _perfect_ to prove Apple Apologist are not normal people!
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/lG4eI7QeEbw>

*Actual facts have absolutely no place to fit in their belief system.*

All you Apple Apologists whoosh on even the _simplest_ of basic facts!
o First, BK@OnRamp jumped to completely erroneous conclusions:
  > The idiot must be referring to 12 not 12.0.1.
o Then, Chris in Makiti jumped to completely erroneous conclusions:
  > What an arse he is. Confusing 12 with 12.0.1
o Then, Meanie jumped to completely erroneous conclusions:
  > Ignore the ass. You'll never win.

Meanwhile, the only adults here were Ant, and me, both of whom used facts.

What's amazing is that you Apple Apologists can't comprehend simple facts.
Worse, you Apple Apologists jump to conclusions supported by _zero_ facts.
You make everything up - your thought process is entireley fictional.

You brazenly fabricated what clearly never happened.
*And yet, you actually _believe_ your brazen imaginary fabrications!*

If this thread alone doesn't prove that Apple Apologists are children,
you'll never comprehend why you're not at all like normal adults.

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#118922

From	Arlen Holder <a%rlenh.older@no.spam.net>
Date	2018-10-17 14:13 +0000
Message-ID	<pq7g2m$mss$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#117542

There is a _perfect_ example of Apple Apolostist excuses here today:
  moving songs to another device 
 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/Khjmvxl2ckA>

What happened is that Lewis told badgolferman that iTunes won't do what
badgolferman expects it to do which is simply copy an MP3 file the way
badgolferman wants the flie to be copied.
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/Khjmvxl2ckA/kuIWzXALCAAJ>

Whether or not Lewis is correct, what is interesting is that Lewis feels
the need to "apologize" for the perceived limitations of iTunes'
functionality:
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/Khjmvxl2ckA/0EvREZESCAAJ>

Lewis must turn this perceived lack of Apple capability into a "moral
crusade" as an apology.

*It's a classic Apple Apologist excuse!*

This errant juxtaposition of a lack of functionality with a moral crusade
is something the Apple Apologist "nospam" does all the time, where it's a
common "excuse" by the Apple Apologists for lack of Apple functionality
(e.g., call recording, torrenting, official Tor functionality, etc.).
o Apple Apologist excuses for lack of Call Recording functionality
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/wtm8DFXuz20/IoGmkjsABwAJ>
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/Vzqi7TMVgPs/jSpfOcVR458J>

o Apple Apologist excuses for lack of torrenting functionality
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/o7LIocpGkPg/LHWYqyDYxGUJ>

o Apple Apologist excuses for lack of official Tor functionality
 <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/A8yry1XPCxI/Hb1d67uaBAAJ>

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