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  How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? matthewmpower@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 17:50 -0700
    Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-21 20:56 -0400
      Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? matthewmpower@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 19:14 -0700
        Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-21 23:19 -0400
      Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 20:06 -0700
      Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-22 05:47 +0000
        Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-21 23:51 -0700
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-22 19:25 +1200
            Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? matthewmpower@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 16:29 -0700
              Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-05-23 09:00 +0100
                Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-23 08:46 -0400
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 01:18 -0700
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 01:51 +0000
            Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 22:49 -0400
              Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 21:08 -0700
        Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 08:32 -0400
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 07:19 -0700
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 02:07 +0000
            Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 22:49 -0400
            Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 20:07 -0700

#116522 — How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci?

I'm hugely into Apple II and IIgs. But the Macintosh IIci had really got my attention so I have a bare bones IIci arriving in the next few days. It has no hard drive, so I'm thinking of getting a SCSI2SD device. It also has no monitor, and no input devices but I think I can figure those things out.

With Apple II's I'm used to using Ciderpress and ADTPro to load in software to cards like the CFFA3000 and the MicroDrive/Turbo.

What are the options available for loading OS and other downloadable software onto a IIci?

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#116523

In article <7fd0b389-cd9c-48e8-88ff-c03e6d0a311b@googlegroups.com>,
<matthewmpower@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm hugely into Apple II and IIgs. But the Macintosh IIci had really got my
> attention so I have a bare bones IIci arriving in the next few days. It has
> no hard drive, so I'm thinking of getting a SCSI2SD device. It also has no
> monitor, and no input devices but I think I can figure those things out.

you're going to need a monitor, hard drive, adb keyboard/mouse.

> With Apple II's I'm used to using Ciderpress and ADTPro to load in software
> to cards like the CFFA3000 and the MicroDrive/Turbo.
> 
> What are the options available for loading OS and other downloadable software
> onto a IIci?

cd-rom or a *lot* of floppies.

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#116528

> cd-rom or a *lot* of floppies.

Can I make those CDs on a Windows PC?

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#116530

In article <4efeeb41-d2bd-42e0-8d6e-aa9527d6c599@googlegroups.com>,
<matthewmpower@gmail.com> wrote:

> > cd-rom or a *lot* of floppies.
> 
> Can I make those CDs on a Windows PC?

not without a significant amount of effort.

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#116529

On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 5:56:19 PM UTC-7, nospam wrote:
> In article <7fd0b389-cd9c-48e8-88ff-c03e6d0a311b@googlegroups.com>,
> <matthewmpower@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm hugely into Apple II and IIgs. But the Macintosh IIci had really got my
> > attention so I have a bare bones IIci arriving in the next few days. It has
> > no hard drive, so I'm thinking of getting a SCSI2SD device. It also has no
> > monitor, and no input devices but I think I can figure those things out.
> 
> you're going to need a monitor, hard drive, adb keyboard/mouse.
> 
> > With Apple II's I'm used to using Ciderpress and ADTPro to load in software
> > to cards like the CFFA3000 and the MicroDrive/Turbo.
> > 
> > What are the options available for loading OS and other downloadable software
> > onto a IIci?
> 
> cd-rom or a *lot* of floppies.



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#116533

In message <210520182056160634%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <7fd0b389-cd9c-48e8-88ff-c03e6d0a311b@googlegroups.com>,
> <matthewmpower@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I'm hugely into Apple II and IIgs. But the Macintosh IIci had really got my
>> attention so I have a bare bones IIci arriving in the next few days. It has
>> no hard drive, so I'm thinking of getting a SCSI2SD device. It also has no
>> monitor, and no input devices but I think I can figure those things out.

> you're going to need a monitor, hard drive, adb keyboard/mouse.

Monitor will probably be the hardest thing to find, honestly. Not any
old VGA will work.

>> With Apple II's I'm used to using Ciderpress and ADTPro to load in software
>> to cards like the CFFA3000 and the MicroDrive/Turbo.
>> 
>> What are the options available for loading OS and other downloadable software
>> onto a IIci?

> cd-rom or a *lot* of floppies.

Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.

The IIci used ADB, so finding and ADB mouse and keyboard will be
required, but those aren't that scarce. Well, at least not keyboards. I
am alos not sure that the IIci really supports CD drives (like, can it
boot from one? Probably, SCSI is SCSI, but I don't know. Our IIci
predated optical drives)

The best place to go is probably a site like lowendmac.com and see if
they have forums, or mention forums on other sites.

Some of this stuff is quite tricky as it's been obsolete for sloe to 30
years.


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#116534

In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
> is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
> well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
> that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
> download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.

Here's a site that still offers four 7.5.5 disks. They download in hqx,
and there are four of them. The site still appears to work.
<https://udcf.gla.ac.uk/~gwm1h/system7.5.5/>
I was interested in the site when the System 7 disks for my Powerbook
520C rotted and I was looking for replacement for old times sake. I
couldn't figure out how to exchange the files from a modern Mac to the
old Mac as bootable. I needed four floppies that I had no equipment to
convert to or read anymore. I make no recommendations regarding the
site that I still have bookmarked. 
Other than that, old hardware technology will screw the OP unless they
want to shell out way more money and time than the computer is worth.
Make it a indeterminate cost hobby.
This may be costlier than restoring a Model T Ford right now, but
persevere. A functioning IIci with cool software might justify the
cost.
If nothing else, you'll learn something from the project.

leo

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#116536

On 2018-05-22 06:51:16 +0000, Leonard Blaisdell said:
> In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
>> is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
>> well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
>> that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
>> download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.
> 
> Here's a site that still offers four 7.5.5 disks. They download in hqx,
> and there are four of them. The site still appears to work.
> <https://udcf.gla.ac.uk/~gwm1h/system7.5.5/>
> I was interested in the site when the System 7 disks for my Powerbook
> 520C rotted and I was looking for replacement for old times sake. I
> couldn't figure out how to exchange the files from a modern Mac to the
> old Mac as bootable. I needed four floppies that I had no equipment to
> convert to or read anymore. I make no recommendations regarding the
> site that I still have bookmarked.
> Other than that, old hardware technology will screw the OP unless they
> want to shell out way more money and time than the computer is worth.
> Make it a indeterminate cost hobby.
> This may be costlier than restoring a Model T Ford right now, but
> persevere. A functioning IIci with cool software might justify the
> cost.
> If nothing else, you'll learn something from the project.
> 
> leo

For old Mac software and help, the best resource website is MacintoshGarden.org

You can transfer files from new Mac or Windows to an old Mac using 
old-Mac-format floppies or old-PC-format floppies ... but DO NOT 
extract any Mac archives on a Windows PC (it will destroy the dual 
forks in application files!).

You can also of course also CD-R or CD-RW discs if you old Mac can read them.

If the old Mac doesn't even boot (and assuming it actually works), then 
of course you'll need to create the bootable System install disks / 
CDs. The easiest way is to download disk images and create physical 
disks usinf Disk Utility or Toast on a new Mac. There are applications 
on Windows PCs to do the same, but I use Windoze as little as possible 
... which means almost never.

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#116568

> If the old Mac doesn't even boot (and assuming it actually works), then 
> of course you'll need to create the bootable System install disks / 
> CDs. The easiest way is to download disk images and create physical 
> disks usinf Disk Utility or Toast on a new Mac. There are applications 
> on Windows PCs to do the same, but I use Windoze as little as possible 
> ... which means almost never.

I was lucky enough to find a Mac OS 7.6.1 CD and it's on the way. I also found an Apple CD 300 and it's on the way. Will need to find cables though. 

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#116592

In article <4eef3e8f-dad9-482e-a7b8-1fdcdf8f1b26@googlegroups.com>,
<matthewmpower@gmail.com> wrote:

>> If the old Mac doesn't even boot (and assuming it actually works), then 
>> of course you'll need to create the bootable System install disks / 
>> CDs. The easiest way is to download disk images and create physical 
>> disks usinf Disk Utility or Toast on a new Mac. There are applications 
>> on Windows PCs to do the same, but I use Windoze as little as possible 
>> ... which means almost never.
>
>I was lucky enough to find a Mac OS 7.6.1 CD and it's on the way. I also found
>an Apple CD 300 and it's on the way. Will need to find cables though. 

My recollection is that 7.6.1 was a very good version.

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#116596

In article <230520180900494787%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> >> If the old Mac doesn't even boot (and assuming it actually works), then 
> >> of course you'll need to create the bootable System install disks / 
> >> CDs. The easiest way is to download disk images and create physical 
> >> disks usinf Disk Utility or Toast on a new Mac. There are applications 
> >> on Windows PCs to do the same, but I use Windoze as little as possible 
> >> ... which means almost never.
> >
> >I was lucky enough to find a Mac OS 7.6.1 CD and it's on the way. I also
> >found
> >an Apple CD 300 and it's on the way. Will need to find cables though. 
> 
> My recollection is that 7.6.1 was a very good version.

it was.

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#116537

On Monday, May 21, 2018 at 11:51:21 PM UTC-7, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
> > is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
> > well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
> > that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
> > download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.
> 
> Here's a site that still offers four 7.5.5 disks. They download in hqx,
> and there are four of them. The site still appears to work.
> <https://udcf.gla.ac.uk/~gwm1h/system7.5.5/>
> I was interested in the site when the System 7 disks for my Powerbook
> 520C rotted and I was looking for replacement for old times sake. I
> couldn't figure out how to exchange the files from a modern Mac to the
> old Mac as bootable. I needed four floppies that I had no equipment to
> convert to or read anymore. I make no recommendations regarding the
> site that I still have bookmarked. 
> Other than that, old hardware technology will screw the OP unless they
> want to shell out way more money and time than the computer is worth.
> Make it a indeterminate cost hobby.
> This may be costlier than restoring a Model T Ford right now, but
> persevere. A functioning IIci with cool software might justify the
> cost.
> If nothing else, you'll learn something from the project.
> 
> leo



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#116572

In message <210520182351166620%leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
>> is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
>> well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
>> that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
>> download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.

> Here's a site that still offers four 7.5.5 disks. They download in hqx,
> and there are four of them. The site still appears to work.
> <https://udcf.gla.ac.uk/~gwm1h/system7.5.5/>

Those would be the 7.5.5 update, not the full install, I believe.

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#116580

In article <slrnpg9i9e.nkb.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
> >> is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
> >> well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
> >> that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
> >> download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.
> 
> > Here's a site that still offers four 7.5.5 disks. They download in hqx,
> > and there are four of them. The site still appears to work.
> > <https://udcf.gla.ac.uk/~gwm1h/system7.5.5/>
> 
> Those would be the 7.5.5 update, not the full install, I believe.

you believe correctly. 

7.5.3 was the last downloadable version, which could later be updated
via the 7.5.5 update, also available for download. i don't remember why
they didn't just release 7.5.5 directly, but there was a reason.

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#116585

On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 7:49:19 PM UTC-7, nospam wrote:
> In article <slrnpg9i9e.nkb.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > >> Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
> > >> is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
> > >> well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
> > >> that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
> > >> download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.
> > 
> > > Here's a site that still offers four 7.5.5 disks. They download in hqx,
> > > and there are four of them. The site still appears to work.
> > > <https://udcf.gla.ac.uk/~gwm1h/system7.5.5/>
> > 
> > Those would be the 7.5.5 update, not the full install, I believe.
> 
> you believe correctly. 
> 
> 7.5.3 was the last downloadable version, which could later be updated
> via the 7.5.5 update, also available for download. i don't remember why
> they didn't just release 7.5.5 directly, but there was a reason.



Any horribly obsessive sleep deprived whacko could easily do the same. Not only did Flatfish's question fail to touch on the "desktop", it has nothing to do with Cooledit. Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis should learn to read ;) 

Gee, imagine Steve Carroll-Petruzzellis trying to pin his balderdash on me, no one has ever seen that before. 

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#116541

In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> 
> >> I'm hugely into Apple II and IIgs. But the Macintosh IIci had really got my
> >> attention so I have a bare bones IIci arriving in the next few days. It has
> >> no hard drive, so I'm thinking of getting a SCSI2SD device. It also has no
> >> monitor, and no input devices but I think I can figure those things out.
> 
> > you're going to need a monitor, hard drive, adb keyboard/mouse.
> 
> Monitor will probably be the hardest thing to find, honestly. Not any
> old VGA will work.

it's also an apple video plug. however, adding a nubus video card will
support pretty much any display (at least of what was available back
then).

> >> With Apple II's I'm used to using Ciderpress and ADTPro to load in software
> >> to cards like the CFFA3000 and the MicroDrive/Turbo.
> >> 
> >> What are the options available for loading OS and other downloadable
> >> software
> >> onto a IIci?
> 
> > cd-rom or a *lot* of floppies.
> 
> Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
> is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
> well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
> that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
> download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.

19 floppies for 7.5.3, which apple used to offer for download, then
another one for the 7.5.5 update.

the problem is that they're macbinary (and probably binhex'ed), so
making a usable mac formatted floppy on a pc is next to impossible. it
can be done, but it is not easy.

> The IIci used ADB, so finding and ADB mouse and keyboard will be
> required, but those aren't that scarce. Well, at least not keyboards. I
> am alos not sure that the IIci really supports CD drives (like, can it
> boot from one?

all macs can boot from a cd-rom drive, assuming the cd itself is
bootable (not all were, even ones with a system on it).

> Probably, SCSI is SCSI, but I don't know. Our IIci
> predated optical drives)

no it didn't. the apple cd sc, a scsi 1x cd-rom drive, was released in
1988, *before* the iici, which was released in september, '89. i
vaguely remember the cd sc being released in early '88, which would
even have predated the iix.

> The best place to go is probably a site like lowendmac.com and see if
> they have forums, or mention forums on other sites.
> 
> Some of this stuff is quite tricky as it's been obsolete for sloe to 30
> years.

yep.

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#116542

On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 5:32:43 AM UTC-7, nospam wrote:
> In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > >> I'm hugely into Apple II and IIgs. But the Macintosh IIci had really got my
> > >> attention so I have a bare bones IIci arriving in the next few days. It has
> > >> no hard drive, so I'm thinking of getting a SCSI2SD device. It also has no
> > >> monitor, and no input devices but I think I can figure those things out.
> > 
> > > you're going to need a monitor, hard drive, adb keyboard/mouse.
> > 
> > Monitor will probably be the hardest thing to find, honestly. Not any
> > old VGA will work.
> 
> it's also an apple video plug. however, adding a nubus video card will
> support pretty much any display (at least of what was available back
> then).
> 
> > >> With Apple II's I'm used to using Ciderpress and ADTPro to load in software
> > >> to cards like the CFFA3000 and the MicroDrive/Turbo.
> > >> 
> > >> What are the options available for loading OS and other downloadable
> > >> software
> > >> onto a IIci?
> > 
> > > cd-rom or a *lot* of floppies.
> > 
> > Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
> > is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
> > well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
> > that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
> > download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.
> 
> 19 floppies for 7.5.3, which apple used to offer for download, then
> another one for the 7.5.5 update.
> 
> the problem is that they're macbinary (and probably binhex'ed), so
> making a usable mac formatted floppy on a pc is next to impossible. it
> can be done, but it is not easy.
> 
> > The IIci used ADB, so finding and ADB mouse and keyboard will be
> > required, but those aren't that scarce. Well, at least not keyboards. I
> > am alos not sure that the IIci really supports CD drives (like, can it
> > boot from one?
> 
> all macs can boot from a cd-rom drive, assuming the cd itself is
> bootable (not all were, even ones with a system on it).
> 
> > Probably, SCSI is SCSI, but I don't know. Our IIci
> > predated optical drives)
> 
> no it didn't. the apple cd sc, a scsi 1x cd-rom drive, was released in
> 1988, *before* the iici, which was released in september, '89. i
> vaguely remember the cd sc being released in early '88, which would
> even have predated the iix.
> 
> > The best place to go is probably a site like lowendmac.com and see if
> > they have forums, or mention forums on other sites.
> > 
> > Some of this stuff is quite tricky as it's been obsolete for sloe to 30
> > years.
> 
> yep.



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Why does Allah focus on his own ego so much? What is your evidence? 

It's simple to exaggerate by focusing on hardly any outliers different from what's common. What matters more from an honest advocates point of view are the average circumstances. 

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#116573

In message <220520180832393564%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> Probably, SCSI is SCSI, but I don't know. Our IIci
>> predated optical drives)

> no it didn't. the apple cd sc, a scsi 1x cd-rom drive, was released in
> 1988, *before* the iici, which was released in september, '89. i
> vaguely remember the cd sc being released in early '88, which would
> even have predated the iix.

No Mac shipped with a CD drive when the IIci came out. The IIci did not
have a CD ROM drive. With the possible exception of $10,000+ servers, no
macs had Optical drives at the time and no System software came on CDs
for you to boot from and install without using floppies, which is the
point of all this.

Even if you did have a CD drive, you wouldn't have a Mac OS installer on
a CD image anyway.

However, now that I think about it, it's possible the floppy images were
a virtual volume spanning many discs, so putting all the images onto a
single drive (HD or CD) and opening the first image Might let you run
the installer because it will mount all the disk images.

Don't quote me on that one though, this is knowledge I tried to flush
decades ago.

-- 
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everyone's attention that would be sufficiently satisfying, combining
maximum entertainment value for readers with maximum humiliation for you.
   -- Laura

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#116581

In article <slrnpg9j6v.nkb.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> >> Probably, SCSI is SCSI, but I don't know. Our IIci
> >> predated optical drives)
> 
> > no it didn't. the apple cd sc, a scsi 1x cd-rom drive, was released in
> > 1988, *before* the iici, which was released in september, '89. i
> > vaguely remember the cd sc being released in early '88, which would
> > even have predated the iix.
> 
> No Mac shipped with a CD drive when the IIci came out. The IIci did not
> have a CD ROM drive. With the possible exception of $10,000+ servers, no
> macs had Optical drives at the time and no System software came on CDs
> for you to boot from and install without using floppies, which is the
> point of all this.

the apple cd sc was an *external* 1x cd drive, released in 1988. other
models followed, from apple and other companies.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleCD>

> Even if you did have a CD drive, you wouldn't have a Mac OS installer on
> a CD image anyway.

a/ux shipped on cd well before macos did.

> However, now that I think about it, it's possible the floppy images were
> a virtual volume spanning many discs, so putting all the images onto a
> single drive (HD or CD) and opening the first image Might let you run
> the installer because it will mount all the disk images.

as i recall, all of the floppy images were mounted, then the installer
on the first image was launched and it did its thing.

> Don't quote me on that one though, this is knowledge I tried to flush
> decades ago.

same here, but some remains.

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#116583

On Tuesday, May 22, 2018 at 7:07:32 PM UTC-7, Lewis wrote:
> In message <220520180832393564%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> Probably, SCSI is SCSI, but I don't know. Our IIci
> >> predated optical drives)
> 
> > no it didn't. the apple cd sc, a scsi 1x cd-rom drive, was released in
> > 1988, *before* the iici, which was released in september, '89. i
> > vaguely remember the cd sc being released in early '88, which would
> > even have predated the iix.
> 
> No Mac shipped with a CD drive when the IIci came out. The IIci did not
> have a CD ROM drive. With the possible exception of $10,000+ servers, no
> macs had Optical drives at the time and no System software came on CDs
> for you to boot from and install without using floppies, which is the
> point of all this.
> 
> Even if you did have a CD drive, you wouldn't have a Mac OS installer on
> a CD image anyway.
> 
> However, now that I think about it, it's possible the floppy images were
> a virtual volume spanning many discs, so putting all the images onto a
> single drive (HD or CD) and opening the first image Might let you run
> the installer because it will mount all the disk images.
> 
> Don't quote me on that one though, this is knowledge I tried to flush
> decades ago.
> 
> -- 
> I noticed that but was still trying to work out a way of drawing it to
> everyone's attention that would be sufficiently satisfying, combining
> maximum entertainment value for readers with maximum humiliation for you.
>    -- Laura



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It was God who got busted using tons of accounts over and over, and these are 'people' who come basically out of the blue directly into threads where he was being proved wrong... by Jesus for years. 

God only thinks about Jesus, Jesus, Jesus! 



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