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Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci?

From nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci?
Date 2018-05-22 08:32 -0400
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In article <slrnpg7bml.1r2.g.kreme@Snow.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> 
> >> I'm hugely into Apple II and IIgs. But the Macintosh IIci had really got my
> >> attention so I have a bare bones IIci arriving in the next few days. It has
> >> no hard drive, so I'm thinking of getting a SCSI2SD device. It also has no
> >> monitor, and no input devices but I think I can figure those things out.
> 
> > you're going to need a monitor, hard drive, adb keyboard/mouse.
> 
> Monitor will probably be the hardest thing to find, honestly. Not any
> old VGA will work.

it's also an apple video plug. however, adding a nubus video card will
support pretty much any display (at least of what was available back
then).

> >> With Apple II's I'm used to using Ciderpress and ADTPro to load in software
> >> to cards like the CFFA3000 and the MicroDrive/Turbo.
> >> 
> >> What are the options available for loading OS and other downloadable
> >> software
> >> onto a IIci?
> 
> > cd-rom or a *lot* of floppies.
> 
> Yes, I installed 7.5.5 via Floppies. I think it was 14 floppies, or that
> is the number that comes to mind. I have no way to check and that was
> well before CD-Rs. A CD Drive will have to be SCSI, so good luck on
> that. I think Apple had disk images for system 7.something available for
> download at one time, but I don't know about that anymore.

19 floppies for 7.5.3, which apple used to offer for download, then
another one for the 7.5.5 update.

the problem is that they're macbinary (and probably binhex'ed), so
making a usable mac formatted floppy on a pc is next to impossible. it
can be done, but it is not easy.

> The IIci used ADB, so finding and ADB mouse and keyboard will be
> required, but those aren't that scarce. Well, at least not keyboards. I
> am alos not sure that the IIci really supports CD drives (like, can it
> boot from one?

all macs can boot from a cd-rom drive, assuming the cd itself is
bootable (not all were, even ones with a system on it).

> Probably, SCSI is SCSI, but I don't know. Our IIci
> predated optical drives)

no it didn't. the apple cd sc, a scsi 1x cd-rom drive, was released in
1988, *before* the iici, which was released in september, '89. i
vaguely remember the cd sc being released in early '88, which would
even have predated the iix.

> The best place to go is probably a site like lowendmac.com and see if
> they have forums, or mention forums on other sites.
> 
> Some of this stuff is quite tricky as it's been obsolete for sloe to 30
> years.

yep.

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How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? matthewmpower@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 17:50 -0700
  Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-21 20:56 -0400
    Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? matthewmpower@gmail.com - 2018-05-21 19:14 -0700
      Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-21 23:19 -0400
    Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-21 20:06 -0700
    Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-22 05:47 +0000
      Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-05-21 23:51 -0700
        Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-22 19:25 +1200
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? matthewmpower@gmail.com - 2018-05-22 16:29 -0700
            Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-05-23 09:00 +0100
              Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-23 08:46 -0400
        Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 01:18 -0700
        Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 01:51 +0000
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 22:49 -0400
            Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 21:08 -0700
      Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 08:32 -0400
        Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 07:19 -0700
        Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 02:07 +0000
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 22:49 -0400
          Re: How to put OS and other software onto a Macintosh IIci? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 20:07 -0700

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