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  Good or bad idea Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-14 11:00 -0400
    Re: Good or bad idea JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-06-14 11:45 -0400
      Re: Good or bad idea Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 12:48 -0400
        Re: Good or bad idea JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-06-14 21:13 -0400
          Re: Good or bad idea Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 21:41 -0400
      Re: Good or bad idea Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-14 17:21 -0400
        Re: Good or bad idea Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-06-15 13:13 +1200
          Re: Good or bad idea Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-15 08:19 -0400
        Re: Good or bad idea JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-06-14 22:20 -0400
          Re: Good or bad idea Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-15 08:21 -0400
    Re: Good or bad idea Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-14 11:47 -0400
      Re: Good or bad idea Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-14 12:09 -0400
        Re: Good or bad idea billy@MIX.COM - 2015-06-14 18:19 +0000
          Re: Good or bad idea Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-14 17:06 -0400
            Re: Good or bad idea Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-06-14 21:32 +0000
              Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-15 15:21 +0100
                Re: Good or bad idea Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-06-15 15:32 +0000
                  Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-16 02:18 +0100
                    Re: Good or bad idea Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-06-16 15:26 +0000
                Re: Good or bad idea Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-15 21:41 -0400
                  Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-16 03:48 +0100
                    Re: Good or bad idea Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-06-16 15:28 +0000
            Re: Good or bad idea Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-06-15 13:11 +1200
              Re: Good or bad idea nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-14 23:05 -0400
              Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-15 15:23 +0100
          Re: Good or bad idea Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-06-14 15:19 -0700
            Re: Good or bad idea Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-06-15 13:19 +1200
        Re: Good or bad idea Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-14 17:26 -0400
          Re: Good or bad idea Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-15 09:12 -0400
        Re: Good or bad idea gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-06-14 19:06 -0700
          Re: Good or bad idea Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-15 09:16 -0400
            Re: Good or bad idea Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-06-16 09:15 +1200
              Re: Good or bad idea Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-15 19:44 -0400
                Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-16 03:01 +0100
                  Re: Good or bad idea Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-06-15 20:06 -0700
                    Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-16 05:19 +0100
                    Re: Good or bad idea Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-06-16 11:00 -0400
                      Re: Good or bad idea Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 12:51 -0400
                    Re: Good or bad idea Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-06-16 20:50 -0400
    Re: Good or bad idea Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-14 08:47 -0700
      Re: Good or bad idea Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-06-15 09:10 +1200
    Re: Good or bad idea Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-06-14 12:06 -0400
      Re: Good or bad idea Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-14 12:12 -0400
        Re: Good or bad idea Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2015-06-14 21:50 -0400
        Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-15 15:37 +0100
        Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-15 15:47 +0100
    Re: Good or bad idea "W" <persistentone@spamarrest.com> - 2015-06-14 12:00 -0700
      Re: Good or bad idea Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2015-06-14 17:21 -0400
        Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-15 16:10 +0100
          Re: Good or bad idea Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-15 15:14 +0000
            Re: Good or bad idea Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-15 18:57 +0100
              Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-16 02:54 +0100
                Re: Good or bad idea JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-06-15 23:56 -0400
                  Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-16 06:02 +0100
                    Re: Good or bad idea JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-06-16 21:10 -0400
                      Re: Good or bad idea Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-06-16 18:18 -0700
                        Re: Good or bad idea Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-06-17 13:38 +1200
                          Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-18 04:12 +0100
                            Re: Good or bad idea Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-18 11:56 +0000
                        Re: Good or bad idea Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 06:52 -0400
                      Re: Good or bad idea Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-17 12:12 +0000
                      Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-18 04:03 +0100
                        Re: Good or bad idea Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-18 11:56 +0000
                        Re: Good or bad idea Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-18 08:20 -0400
                Re: Good or bad idea Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-16 10:20 +0100
                  Re: Good or bad idea Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-06-16 21:06 +0000
                    Re: Good or bad idea Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-06-17 13:12 +1200
                  Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-16 23:17 +0100
            Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-16 02:25 +0100
      Re: Good or bad idea John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2015-06-15 15:58 +0100
    Re: Good or bad idea Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-06-15 09:15 +1200
    Re: Good or bad idea Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-06-15 08:54 -0400

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#76596 — Good or bad idea

I was reading at article last week outlining all of the problems a widow 
had when her husband died getting into his various accounts because of 
not knowing the usernames, passwords,and security questions. I am 
thinking about putting this information (for both of us) on encrypted 
thumb drives and putting them in the safety deposit boxes with the 
wills. I would like to d/l the usernames/passwords from Keychain access. 
I can then fill in the blanks of the few accounts that aren't on 
Keychain and work out the security questions. 
 So, is this a good idea or dumb idea? Needed or unneeded? If good idea 
what file or plist or whatever do I need to d/l?
-- 
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital.²
                       ‹ Aaron Levenstein

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#76597

Kurt Ullman wrote:

> thinking about putting this information (for both of us) on encrypted 
> thumb drives and putting them in the safety deposit boxes with the 
> wills.

In Québec, the only will that counts is the one stored at a central
faciity, registered by a notary. So when someone dies, you get a
notarized/stapmped copy of the will from the notary who gets it from the
the central database. (notaries used to keep the wills in their safes,
but became huge hassle when notaries retired and handed stuff to some
other notary)

So the thumb drive with the will idea would not work.

However, the thumb drive in safety deposit box works if the will
specifies that  passwords are stored on thumb drive in SDB at bank X
with the key hidden at X in house.

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#76605

In article <557da19f$0$54661$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> In Québec, the only will that counts is the one stored at a central
> faciity, registered by a notary. So when someone dies, you get a
> notarized/stapmped copy of the will from the notary who gets it from the
> the central database. (notaries used to keep the wills in their safes,
> but became huge hassle when notaries retired and handed stuff to some
> other notary)
> 
> So the thumb drive with the will idea would not work.
> 
> However, the thumb drive in safety deposit box works if the will
> specifies that  passwords are stored on thumb drive in SDB at bank X
> with the key hidden at X in house.

And that's why no one wants to live in Quebec. In the real world, your 
will can be stored anywhere (hopefully where someone knows where it is). 
It can even be handwritten, following certain rules. A letter to one's 
executor can contain the passwords and so on, or just a note saying "the 
treasure's buried in the arb..arg..cou..[NO CARRIER]."

The Quebec government is in the process of tabling legislation that 
would make it a "hate crime" to criticise a political party. Look it up. 
They're also passing legislation that says "we don't want any religious 
symbols except, you know, the cross is okay else the Pope of Rome might 
get annoyed." Gotta wonder.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#76628

On 15-06-14 12:48, Warren Oates wrote:

> And that's why no one wants to live in Quebec. In the real world, your 
> will can be stored anywhere (hopefully where someone knows where it is). 

Having a single authenticated copy of a will in a central registry is a
very good idea.  The notary can produce the OFFICIAL will as it was
registered. And the certified copy is the only one banks and other
companies accept.  If the executor shows up without 1-death certificate
2-certified copy of will, the banks will not let him "execute".

Same thing with notaries when it comes to transfering deeds such as
homes or cars.

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#76632

In article <557e26c0$0$24597$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Having a single authenticated copy of a will in a central registry is a
> very good idea.  The notary can produce the OFFICIAL will as it was
> registered. And the certified copy is the only one banks and other
> companies accept.  If the executor shows up without 1-death certificate
> 2-certified copy of will, the banks will not let him "execute".

No holographic wills in Quebec?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#76616

In article <557da19f$0$54661$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Kurt Ullman wrote:
> 
> > thinking about putting this information (for both of us) on encrypted 
> > thumb drives and putting them in the safety deposit boxes with the 
> > wills.
> 
> In Québec, the only will that counts is the one stored at a central
> faciity, registered by a notary. So when someone dies, you get a
> notarized/stapmped copy of the will from the notary who gets it from the
> the central database. (notaries used to keep the wills in their safes,
> but became huge hassle when notaries retired and handed stuff to some
> other notary)
> 
> So the thumb drive with the will idea would not work.

The thumb drive is for passwords, not the will itself. What does the 
legitimacy of the will have to do with where he stores all his passwords?

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#76627

In article <barmar-53BB1F.17212314062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <557da19f$0$54661$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
>  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > Kurt Ullman wrote:
> > >
> > > thinking about putting this information (for both of us) on encrypted 
> > > thumb drives and putting them in the safety deposit boxes with the 
> > > wills.
> > 
> > In Québec, the only will that counts is the one stored at a central
> > faciity, registered by a notary. So when someone dies, you get a
> > notarized/stapmped copy of the will from the notary who gets it from the
> > the central database. (notaries used to keep the wills in their safes,
> > but became huge hassle when notaries retired and handed stuff to some
> > other notary)
> > 
> > So the thumb drive with the will idea would not work.
> 
> The thumb drive is for passwords, not the will itself. What does the 
> legitimacy of the will have to do with where he stores all his passwords?

Only that apparently a will in Quebec has to be stored by an official,
who probably doesn't want or can't have extra rubbish like thumb drives
clogging up the place. You could of course still keep the thumb drive
somewhere safe yourself, just not with the actual will.

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#76650

In article <150620151313145607%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <barmar-53BB1F.17212314062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > In article <557da19f$0$54661$c3e8da3$fdf4f6af@news.astraweb.com>,
> >  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > > Kurt Ullman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > thinking about putting this information (for both of us) on encrypted 
> > > > thumb drives and putting them in the safety deposit boxes with the 
> > > > wills.
> > > 
> > > In Québec, the only will that counts is the one stored at a central
> > > faciity, registered by a notary. So when someone dies, you get a
> > > notarized/stapmped copy of the will from the notary who gets it from the
> > > the central database. (notaries used to keep the wills in their safes,
> > > but became huge hassle when notaries retired and handed stuff to some
> > > other notary)
> > > 
> > > So the thumb drive with the will idea would not work.
> > 
> > The thumb drive is for passwords, not the will itself. What does the 
> > legitimacy of the will have to do with where he stores all his passwords?
> 
> Only that apparently a will in Quebec has to be stored by an official,
> who probably doesn't want or can't have extra rubbish like thumb drives
> clogging up the place. You could of course still keep the thumb drive
> somewhere safe yourself, just not with the actual will.

That's my point. The question was about the thumb drive, the will was 
apparently just mentioned in passing. This is comp.sys.mac.system, not 
misc.legal.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#76637

On 15-06-14 17:21, Barry Margolin wrote:

> The thumb drive is for passwords, not the will itself. What does the 
> legitimacy of the will have to do with where he stores all his passwords?

The original message had the thumb drive stored with the will.

I pointed out that here, the will is stored in a central location
(operated by notary association), so you can't store a thumb drive with it.

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#76651

In article <557e3664$0$29473$c3e8da3$e074e489@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 15-06-14 17:21, Barry Margolin wrote:
> 
> > The thumb drive is for passwords, not the will itself. What does the 
> > legitimacy of the will have to do with where he stores all his passwords?
> 
> The original message had the thumb drive stored with the will.
> 
> I pointed out that here, the will is stored in a central location
> (operated by notary association), so you can't store a thumb drive with it.

The OP had the thumb drive stored in the safety deposit box, and it also 
had the will stored there. The latter point seemed like a FYI, not 
relevant to the question.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#76598

In article <coCdncR674qRCuDInZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
 Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I was reading at article last week outlining all of the problems a widow 
> had when her husband died getting into his various accounts because of 
> not knowing the usernames, passwords,and security questions. I am 
> thinking about putting this information (for both of us) on encrypted 
> thumb drives and putting them in the safety deposit boxes with the 
> wills. I would like to d/l the usernames/passwords from Keychain access. 
> I can then fill in the blanks of the few accounts that aren't on 
> Keychain and work out the security questions. 
>  So, is this a good idea or dumb idea? Needed or unneeded? If good idea 
> what file or plist or whatever do I need to d/l?

If you're going to use a safety-deposit box, why not print out the stuff 
and put it with your wills which must surely be safely addressed to your 
executors?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#76601

In article <557da205$0$41727$c3e8da3$5d8fb80f@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <coCdncR674qRCuDInZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
>  Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I was reading at article last week outlining all of the problems a widow 
> > had when her husband died getting into his various accounts because of 
> > not knowing the usernames, passwords,and security questions. I am 
> > thinking about putting this information (for both of us) on encrypted 
> > thumb drives and putting them in the safety deposit boxes with the 
> > wills. I would like to d/l the usernames/passwords from Keychain access. 
> > I can then fill in the blanks of the few accounts that aren't on 
> > Keychain and work out the security questions. 
> >  So, is this a good idea or dumb idea? Needed or unneeded? If good idea 
> > what file or plist or whatever do I need to d/l?
> 
> If you're going to use a safety-deposit box, why not print out the stuff 
> and put it with your wills which must surely be safely addressed to your 
> executors?

Okay. Better idea. Now, the question becomes can I print out a list from 
Keychain or do I need to do it by hand?
-- 
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital.²
                       ‹ Aaron Levenstein

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#76609

Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> writes:

> Okay. Better idea. Now, the question becomes can I print out a list from 
> Keychain or do I need to do it by hand?

It's probably easier to write it all out by hand.  Use a ball point pen
with real ink, coz some of the felt tip or similar pens will fade after
a few years.

Billy Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#76613

In article <mlkgjv$81h$2@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:

> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> writes:
> 
> > Okay. Better idea. Now, the question becomes can I print out a list from 
> > Keychain or do I need to do it by hand?
> 
> It's probably easier to write it all out by hand.  Use a ball point pen
> with real ink, coz some of the felt tip or similar pens will fade after
> a few years.
> 
> Billy Y..

I have really bad handwriting so it may not be easier. ;)  In real life 
I most likely would have to go back and forth between the Keychain' s 
listing and Word to get something that could actually be read.
-- 
³Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is suggestive,
     but what they conceal is vital.²
                       ‹ Aaron Levenstein

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#76619

On 2015-06-14, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <mlkgjv$81h$2@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
>
>> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> writes:
>> 
>> > Okay. Better idea. Now, the question becomes can I print out a list from 
>> > Keychain or do I need to do it by hand?
>> 
>> It's probably easier to write it all out by hand.  Use a ball point pen
>> with real ink, coz some of the felt tip or similar pens will fade after
>> a few years.
>> 
>> Billy Y..
>
> I have really bad handwriting so it may not be easier. ;)  In real life 
> I most likely would have to go back and forth between the Keychain' s 
> listing and Word to get something that could actually be read.

You could probably write a script to create a CSV file (just a text file
with contents that conform to CSV) that I could open with any
spreadsheet program to view. The script would just loop through all keys
in each key chain, and write every key as a line in the CSV file. 

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#76659

On 14 Jun 2015 21:32:18 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>On 2015-06-14, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In article <mlkgjv$81h$2@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
>>
>>> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> writes:
>>> 
>>> > Okay. Better idea. Now, the question becomes can I print out a list from 
>>> > Keychain or do I need to do it by hand?
>>> 
>>> It's probably easier to write it all out by hand.  Use a ball point pen
>>> with real ink, coz some of the felt tip or similar pens will fade after
>>> a few years.
>>> 
>>> Billy Y..
>>
>> I have really bad handwriting so it may not be easier. ;)  In real life 
>> I most likely would have to go back and forth between the Keychain' s 
>> listing and Word to get something that could actually be read.
>
>You could probably write a script to create a CSV file (just a text file
>with contents that conform to CSV) that I could open with any
>spreadsheet program to view. The script would just loop through all keys
>in each key chain, and write every key as a line in the CSV file. 

 Bugger that, too much like work. Why not just open Keychain and take
a picture, then print the picture? OSX comes with Grab. Grab lets you
store the screen captures. Stored files can be printed. 
 On Windows boxes one can use IrfanView. Or the PrintScreen. 
 On *Nixxy boxes there are about fifty million ways to print off a
screen, as there are with everything you would ever need to do. 
 That way, if anything every changes, all you need do is more
print-offs.
 You can even "show passwords" in Firefox and other browsers when
looking at locally stored logins for things like Gmail accounts that
you access through a browser. That screen, too, can be dumped to a
printer.
              J.  

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#76668

On 2015-06-15, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On 14 Jun 2015 21:32:18 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>You could probably write a script to create a CSV file (just a text file
>>with contents that conform to CSV) that I could open with any
>>spreadsheet program to view. The script would just loop through all keys
>>in each key chain, and write every key as a line in the CSV file. 
>
>  Bugger that, too much like work.

Not much work for me; but then I'm a software developer.

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JR

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#76679

On 15 Jun 2015 15:32:49 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>On 2015-06-15, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>> On 14 Jun 2015 21:32:18 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>You could probably write a script to create a CSV file (just a text file
>>>with contents that conform to CSV) that I could open with any
>>>spreadsheet program to view. The script would just loop through all keys
>>>in each key chain, and write every key as a line in the CSV file. 
>>
>>  Bugger that, too much like work.
>
>Not much work for me; but then I'm a software developer.

 Yeah, me, too, once, a long, long time ago. Getting the job done
would not be a massive task but it's work I wouldn't bother doing as
Apple have kindly produced and installed about a dozen different ways
of doing the job with a few keystrokes. 
 I'm sure Microsoft and the million or so *Nixxy distros have also do
so. :)
 But if you're happy to write more ways to do it, and if that's fun
for you, that's good, too. :)
                               J.  

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#76696

On 2015-06-16, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
> On 15 Jun 2015 15:32:49 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2015-06-15, John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:
>>> On 14 Jun 2015 21:32:18 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You could probably write a script to create a CSV file (just a text file
>>>>with contents that conform to CSV) that I could open with any
>>>>spreadsheet program to view. The script would just loop through all keys
>>>>in each key chain, and write every key as a line in the CSV file. 
>>>
>>>  Bugger that, too much like work.
>>
>>Not much work for me; but then I'm a software developer.
>
>  Yeah, me, too, once, a long, long time ago. Getting the job done
> would not be a massive task but it's work I wouldn't bother doing as

Meh. Writing such a script would take around 15 minutes of work and
would allow me to export the data in any format I want, rather than
being stuck with less useful screen shots and so on.

> Apple have kindly produced and installed about a dozen different ways
> of doing the job with a few keystrokes. 

You've made a list of them?

>  I'm sure Microsoft and the million or so *Nixxy distros have also do
> so. :)
>  But if you're happy to write more ways to do it, and if that's fun
> for you, that's good, too. :)

For my uses, a spreadsheet would be best. If Apple gives you a way to do
that without scripting, please share. : )

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#76682

In article <ugntnaplsuce5emke6kd1nesr3d9u90je4@4ax.com>,
 John <Man@the.keyboard> wrote:

> On 14 Jun 2015 21:32:18 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> >On 2015-06-14, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> In article <mlkgjv$81h$2@reader2.panix.com>, billy@MIX.COM wrote:
> >>
> >>> Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> writes:
> >>> 
> >>> > Okay. Better idea. Now, the question becomes can I print out a list 
> >>> > from 
> >>> > Keychain or do I need to do it by hand?
> >>> 
> >>> It's probably easier to write it all out by hand.  Use a ball point pen
> >>> with real ink, coz some of the felt tip or similar pens will fade after
> >>> a few years.
> >>> 
> >>> Billy Y..
> >>
> >> I have really bad handwriting so it may not be easier. ;)  In real life 
> >> I most likely would have to go back and forth between the Keychain' s 
> >> listing and Word to get something that could actually be read.
> >
> >You could probably write a script to create a CSV file (just a text file
> >with contents that conform to CSV) that I could open with any
> >spreadsheet program to view. The script would just loop through all keys
> >in each key chain, and write every key as a line in the CSV file. 
> 
>  Bugger that, too much like work. Why not just open Keychain and take
> a picture, then print the picture? OSX comes with Grab. Grab lets you
> store the screen captures. Stored files can be printed. 

Picture of what? Keychain Access doesn't have a screen that shows all 
the passwords. You'd have to open each password entry, click on "Show 
Password", enter your login password to reveal it, then take a picture 
of that.

THAT would be lots of work, probably 20-30 seconds per site.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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