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Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal

Started bybilly@MIX.COM
First post2014-06-03 16:01 +0000
Last post2014-06-10 20:02 +0000
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  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 16:01 +0000
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-03 17:00 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-03 19:12 +0000
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-04 18:10 +1200
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 15:41 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 04:25 +1200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-04 17:31 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 05:37 +1200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-04 19:01 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 07:21 +1200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:26 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 06:04 +1200
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 23:13 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-06 14:26 +1200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:26 +0200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-11 09:25 +1200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-05 08:38 +1000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-04 21:33 -0400
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 03:50 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-05 18:40 +1200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 14:13 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 15:32 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:01 -0700
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:31 -0700
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-05 18:40 +0200
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:37 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:59 -0700
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:16 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-06-05 22:56 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 03:20 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-05 23:53 -0500
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:19 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:45 -0700
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-06-06 15:10 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:44 +1200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-05 18:09 +0000
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-05 17:58 +0000
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-05 19:21 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 08:36 -0700
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 09:00 -0700
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:04 -0700
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 09:23 -0700
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:47 +0100
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:09 -0700
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:16 -0700
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 11:22 -0700
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 14:30 -0400
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-05 18:45 -0700
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-05 21:57 -0400
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-05 18:43 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-05 23:46 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 23:35 -0700
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 09:03 +0200
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 04:55 -0700
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-06 13:07 +0100
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-06 08:23 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-06 23:31 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 15:40 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 04:45 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:48 +0200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 15:00 +0200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:46 +0200
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 08:40 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-06 18:04 +0200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 09:20 -0700
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 16:01 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:30 -0700
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:33 -0700
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:52 +0200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam@ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels Jørgen Kruse) - 2014-06-07 10:46 +0200
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-07 10:02 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-06 09:15 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal "D.F. Manno" <dfmanno@mail.com> - 2014-06-06 19:30 -0400
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-05 11:04 -0700
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-06 05:55 +1200
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:28 -0400
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 15:58 -0700
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-07 02:54 +1200
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 16:49 -0700
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:38 +0000
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Laszlo Lebrun <lazlo_lebrun@googlemail.com> - 2014-06-18 22:40 +0200
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:25 -0400
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-05 18:27 -0400
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-06 02:13 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 16:47 -0400
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-06 19:02 -0500
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-06 20:24 -0400
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 01:57 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-06 18:36 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:42 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:50 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-07 02:41 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-07 12:47 -0500
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 17:49 -0400
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:19 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:03 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 09:18 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:39 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 18:56 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 21:16 +0200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:44 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 18:25 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Förster <paul.foerster@gmx.net> - 2014-06-09 22:12 +0200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 09:08 +1000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 00:15 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-09 10:42 +1000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-09 05:36 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-09 04:17 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:19 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:35 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:39 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:44 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 12:30 -0500
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 17:32 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-10 11:04 +1000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 17:06 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:43 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:00 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 06:36 -0700
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 23:40 -0400
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-07 22:02 -0700
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-08 17:38 +1200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-08 18:03 +1200
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:12 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 14:50 +0200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 09:03 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 15:24 +0200
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-06-09 13:47 +1200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 08:05 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:54 +0000
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-07 00:44 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:05 -0400
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 21:33 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:18 -0700
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:44 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:57 -0700
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:42 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 10:01 -0700
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-08 16:47 -0500
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-09 03:25 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:20 -0500
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:46 -0400
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:17 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-11 09:32 -0700
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-12 20:24 -0400
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-12 18:33 -0700
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-16 17:06 -0400
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 17:56 -0400
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-16 16:31 -0700
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-17 19:00 -0400
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-18 06:57 -0700
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 19:41 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-06-09 08:48 +1200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 19:58 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:27 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-11 02:38 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:14 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-07-14 07:25 +0200
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-07-14 21:11 -0500
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-08-05 08:20 +0200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-08 19:39 -0400
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 19:35 -0700
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:40 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 05:11 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 18:17 +1200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-09 20:43 -0500
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:01 -0400
                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-07 17:41 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 14:53 +1000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:58 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-08 19:20 +1000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 17:18 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 18:52 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 06:30 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 13:41 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-08 11:20 -0400
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 22:00 +0000
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 06:36 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 15:31 +0000
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 16:32 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:02 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 19:17 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-11 02:01 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-11 16:10 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-11 22:35 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 01:10 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-12 07:15 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-12 17:41 -0400
                                Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 04:17 +0000
                                  Re: Unmasking A Complete, Total Dickwad (was: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-16 14:42 -0400
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-09 04:28 +0000
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:43 -0400
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-08 14:00 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:35 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:50 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:22 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-08 22:44 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-09 12:37 +1200
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:58 -0400
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:16 -0700
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 10:40 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-06-08 07:54 -0700
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 12:40 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:28 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-09 16:24 +0000
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-06-09 10:10 -0700
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 08:19 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-10 16:55 +0000
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-10 18:01 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:08 +0000
                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-11 16:31 +0000
                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-12 05:52 +0000
                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-12 16:45 +0000
                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 13:35 +0000
                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-13 18:00 +0000
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-13 21:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-14 08:51 +1000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 11:51 +0000
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 00:00 +1000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 14:10 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-06-15 09:49 +1000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 00:28 +0000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-15 07:38 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-06-15 14:51 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:34 +0000
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 04:23 -0400
                                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 17:19 +0000
                                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 23:36 -0400
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2014-06-16 07:42 -0400
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 18:30 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 14:57 -0500
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 22:11 +0000
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-06-14 17:40 -0500
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 18:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 21:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-14 21:52 +0000
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 19:03 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 19:15 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2014-06-16 05:40 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-14 23:18 +0100
                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-13 21:06 -0400
                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-14 17:50 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-14 19:06 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-14 17:39 -0400
                                                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-15 18:36 +0000
                                                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-15 18:57 +0000
                                                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-16 15:08 +1200
                                                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-16 16:48 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-16 16:55 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:03 +0000
                                                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-16 17:14 +0000
                                                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-17 07:53 +1200
                                                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-17 16:10 +0000
                                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2014-06-15 12:25 +1200
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 17:11 -0400
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:33 -0400
                                Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:36 +0000
                                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:10 -0400
                                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-12 02:33 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-08 17:15 +0200
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:27 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-08 17:49 +0000
                      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-10 16:21 -0400
                        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-10 22:25 +0000
                          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 17:33 -0400
                            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-11 21:51 +0000
                              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-11 18:16 -0400
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-06-08 20:25 +0000
                    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Invid Fan <invid@loclanet.com> - 2014-06-08 20:31 -0400
                  Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-08 09:50 -0400
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal android <here@there.was> - 2014-06-06 07:29 +0200
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Darrin "Doc" O'Leary  <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> - 2014-06-06 15:52 +0000
              Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-06-07 08:21 -0400
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 17:44 +0100
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2014-06-05 09:48 -0700
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-06-05 18:55 +0100
          Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:43 +0200
            Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0000
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 20:14 +0200
        Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:11 +0000
    Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-06-10 19:50 +0200
      Re: Upcoming New Newsreader for the Mac: Signal billy@MIX.COM - 2014-06-10 20:02 +0000

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#60219

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-05 18:40 +1200
Message-ID<1lms6ch.15kaa59skit2oN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#60203
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <1lmqa29.k4rshchnvytzN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> 
>   Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> > <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
> 
> >> In comp.sys.mac.system Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Do you also prefer the way Thunderbord treats Unicode text, because
> >> > it sure seems to have fucked up the text in your reply.
> >> 
> >> Unicode handling is the biggest problem in newsreaders today.
> >> 
> >> Next is insufficient (static) buffer space, along with handling
> >> excessively long subjects.  And references.
> >> 
> >> Billy Y..
> 
> > Unicode support is mostly irrelevant for the vast majority of Usenet
> > users who spend their time in English language only groups where 99.99%
> > of posts are easily expressed in only ASCII.
> 
> Complete and utter bullshit.

I like how you managed to utter than in 100% ASCII characters. Thank you
for helping make my point for me - it's always so much easier when they
do that :-)

TTFN,
 Jamie Kahn Genet

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#60231

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-05 14:13 +0000
Message-ID<bvbc7dFm1peU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60219
On 2014-06-05, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
>> In message <1lmqa29.k4rshchnvytzN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> 
>>   Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
>> > <billy@MIX.COM> wrote:
>> 
>> >> In comp.sys.mac.system Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> > Do you also prefer the way Thunderbord treats Unicode text, because
>> >> > it sure seems to have fucked up the text in your reply.
>> >> 
>> >> Unicode handling is the biggest problem in newsreaders today.
>> >> 
>> >> Next is insufficient (static) buffer space, along with handling
>> >> excessively long subjects.  And references.
>> >> 
>> >> Billy Y..
>> 
>> > Unicode support is mostly irrelevant for the vast majority of Usenet
>> > users who spend their time in English language only groups where 99.99%
>> > of posts are easily expressed in only ASCII.
>> 
>> Complete and utter bullshit.
>
> I like how you managed to utter than in 100% ASCII characters. Thank you
> for helping make my point for me - it's always so much easier when they
> do that :-)
>
> TTFN,
>  Jamie Kahn Genet

: D

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#60234

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-05 15:32 +0000
Message-ID<bvbgsfFn6biU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60109
On 2014-06-05, Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>
>> Unicode support is mostly irrelevant for the vast majority of Usenet
>> users who spend their time in English language only groups where 99.99%
>> of posts are easily expressed in only ASCII.
>
> For American Usenet users, possibly, as American's seem to disdain 
> accented characters (even in names like San José).

Disdain? Nah, I mostly just ignore them. Better things to do. : )

> For the rest of us who use words like résumé, café, Ångström, première, 
> etc. it is not irrelevant.

Meh. It's a nice-to-have for me. Nothing more.

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#60239

FromPaul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net>
Date2014-06-05 09:01 -0700
Message-ID<studnaVloYLVCQ3OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#60234
Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2014-06-05, Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

>>> Unicode support is mostly irrelevant for the vast majority of Usenet
>>> users who spend their time in English language only groups where 99.99%
>>> of posts are easily expressed in only ASCII.
>> For American Usenet users, possibly, as American's seem to disdain 
>> accented characters (even in names like San José).

> Disdain? Nah, I mostly just ignore them. Better things to do. : )

>> For the rest of us who use words like résumé, café, Ångström, première, 
>> etc. it is not irrelevant.
> 
> Meh. It's a nice-to-have for me. Nothing more.

Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic. 
Spanish without accents can be close to unintelligible, as many words 
are distinguished only by their presence or absence.

Paul Magnussen

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#60242

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-06-05 09:31 -0700
Message-ID<050620140931367504%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#60239
In article <studnaVloYLVCQ3OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic.

Not even close to the majority.  As of two years ago (latest figures I
could find), the Hispanic/Latino population of the US was 17% of the
nation's total population.

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#60245

Fromandroid <here@there.was>
Date2014-06-05 18:40 +0200
Message-ID<bvbksoFm1sfU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60242
In article <050620140931367504%michelle@michelle.org>,
 Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <studnaVloYLVCQ3OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
> Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> > Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic.
> 
> Not even close to the majority.  As of two years ago (latest figures I
> could find), the Hispanic/Latino population of the US was 17% of the
> nation's total population.

Not seeing a problem here but a consistency in the that the immigration 
to the US has shifted in ethnicity over time:
http://tinyurl.com/m5pgahy
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#60262

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-06-05 11:06 -0700
Message-ID<050620141106067693%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#60245
In article <bvbksoFm1sfU4@mid.individual.net>, android <here@there.was>
wrote:

> In article <050620140931367504%michelle@michelle.org>,
>  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> 
> > In article <studnaVloYLVCQ3OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
> > Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic.
> > 
> > Not even close to the majority.  As of two years ago (latest figures I
> > could find), the Hispanic/Latino population of the US was 17% of the
> > nation's total population.
> 
> Not seeing a problem here but a consistency in the that the immigration 
> to the US has shifted in ethnicity over time:
> http://tinyurl.com/m5pgahy

Although whites will no longer be the majority, they will still be the
plurality; there will be no majority.

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#60274

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-06-05 18:37 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlp1e86.tg1.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#60242
In message <050620140931367504%michelle@michelle.org> 
  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <studnaVloYLVCQ3OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
> Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

>> Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic.

> Not even close to the majority.  As of two years ago (latest figures I
> could find), the Hispanic/Latino population of the US was 17% of the
> nation's total population.

More than 50% of the births are hispanic.


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feet away you couldn't tell the difference.

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#60308

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-06-05 18:59 -0700
Message-ID<050620141859503183%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#60274
In article <slrnlp1e86.tg1.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
<g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <050620140931367504%michelle@michelle.org> 
>   Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> > In article <studnaVloYLVCQ3OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
> > Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> >> Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic.
> 
> > Not even close to the majority.  As of two years ago (latest figures I
> > could find), the Hispanic/Latino population of the US was 17% of the
> > nation's total population.
> 
> More than 50% of the births are hispanic.

17% of the population are causing more than 50% of births????

<http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/births-by-raceethnicity/>

Year 2010

Non-Hispanic white:  2,162,406
Non-Hispanic black:    589,808
Non-Hispanic Amerind:   39,928
Non hispanic Asian*:   234,472
Hispanic:              945,180

*Including Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander

The number of births to women of all ethnic minorities, but not that of
just Hispanics, is greater than that of white women.  So what's the big
deal about that?

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#60311

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-06-06 02:16 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlp294b.1isd.g.kreme@Amelia.local>
In reply to#60308
In message <050620141859503183%michelle@michelle.org> 
  Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <slrnlp1e86.tg1.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis
> <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <050620140931367504%michelle@michelle.org> 
>>   Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> > In article <studnaVloYLVCQ3OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
>> > Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> 
>> >> Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic.
>> 
>> > Not even close to the majority.  As of two years ago (latest figures I
>> > could find), the Hispanic/Latino population of the US was 17% of the
>> > nation's total population.
>> 
>> More than 50% of the births are hispanic.

> 17% of the population are causing more than 50% of births????

> <http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/births-by-raceethnicity/>

> Year 2010

> Non-Hispanic white:  2,162,406
> Non-Hispanic black:    589,808
> Non-Hispanic Amerind:   39,928
> Non hispanic Asian*:   234,472
> Hispanic:              945,180

> *Including Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islander

> The number of births to women of all ethnic minorities, but not that of
> just Hispanics, is greater than that of white women.  So what's the big
> deal about that?

Hmm.. Either I miss-read a headline or the headline was extremely
misleading.

-- 
And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew
them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does.

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#60317

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2014-06-05 22:56 -0400
Message-ID<53912dee$0$51552$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#60308
On 14-06-05 21:59, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> 17% of the population are causing more than 50% of births????

> Non-Hispanic white:  2,162,406
> Hispanic:              945,180

You could spin statistics to say that hispanic birth reach 43% of the
white births despite only having 17% of total population.

(but this would be meaningless unless you also know what percentage
whites represent of total population).

Howver, what happens when the father is white and mother is hispanic ?
is the birth considered hispanic ? and the other way around (hispanic
dad, white mother) ?

And what if one of the two is half hispanic, does that make the kid 3/4
hispanic and 1/4 white, do you then count that one birth as .75 towards
hispanic and .25 towards white ? :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

what about mexicans who are more white than hispanic ? Are they counted
as hispanic or white ?

And what Obama who was born both in Kenya (according to Republicans)
and Hawaii ? Is he considered african american (since born in Kenya) or
Pacific Islander (born in Hawaii with a built-in suntan ? )

Since he has produced a birth certificate showing he was born in Hawaii,
can he really be called "african american" since he wasn't born in
africa ? :-)


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#60318

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-06-06 03:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnlp2csk.1isd.g.kreme@Amelia.local>
In reply to#60317
In message <53912dee$0$51552$c3e8da3$eb767761@news.astraweb.com> 
  JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> what about mexicans who are more white than hispanic ? Are they counted
> as hispanic or white ?

non-Hispanic white means just what is say. A white Hispanic is counted
as Hispanic.

-- 
I laugh in the face of danger. Then I hide until it goes away.

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#60323

FromTim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Date2014-06-05 23:53 -0500
Message-ID<slrnlp2ia3.bna.timmcn@sugaree.local>
In reply to#60317
On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 22:56:45 -0400, JF Mezei 
<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
> Howver, what happens when the father is white and mother is hispanic ? 
> is the birth considered hispanic ? and the other way around (hispanic 
> dad, white mother) ?

Generally speaking, racial (or is that racist?) identification tends to 
hew to the "taint in the blood" notion.  If there is a drop of anything 
other than Euro blood in your veins, you're assigned to whatever group 
that drop comes from.  So if genetically you are- for example- 12.5% 
African and 87.5% European, the tendency is to consider you black.  
Genetically the differences between races are so very tiny and those 
differences weigh so very heavily on the opportunities individuals are 
granted.

The first "black President" is of as much European ancestry as African 
ancestry, yet he is not considered white.  He is identified as black 
(and with that is seen as a threat by an awful lot of white folks who 
have been arming themselves like crazy since he was elected to his first 
term.  Obama has been very good marketing for the gun industry; there is 
a very clear trend between white racism and gun ownership in America.  A 
black man who owns a gun is assumed a criminal while a white man who 
owns a gun is assumed to be protecting his family.  I wonder what would 
have happened if blacks carrying guns had gone shopping at Target).

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#60355

FromPaul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net>
Date2014-06-06 08:19 -0700
Message-ID<evWdnarv0baMQQzOnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#60323
Tim McNamara wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 22:56:45 -0400, JF Mezei 
> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> Howver, what happens when the father is white and mother is hispanic ? 
>> is the birth considered hispanic ? and the other way around (hispanic 
>> dad, white mother) ?
> 
> Generally speaking, racial (or is that racist?) identification tends to 
> hew to the "taint in the blood" notion.

That's not my information: a few years ago a colleague who had an 
American father and a Hispanic mother told me he wasn't classified as 
Hispanic because he didn't have a Hispanic surname!

Paul Magnussen

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#60363

FromMichelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org>
Date2014-06-06 08:45 -0700
Message-ID<060620140845225122%michelle@michelle.org>
In reply to#60355
In article <evWdnarv0baMQQzOnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Tim McNamara wrote:
> > On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 22:56:45 -0400, JF Mezei 
> > <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> >> Howver, what happens when the father is white and mother is hispanic ? 
> >> is the birth considered hispanic ? and the other way around (hispanic 
> >> dad, white mother) ?
> > 
> > Generally speaking, racial (or is that racist?) identification tends to 
> > hew to the "taint in the blood" notion.
> 
> That's not my information: a few years ago a colleague who had an 
> American father and a Hispanic mother told me he wasn't classified as 
> Hispanic because he didn't have a Hispanic surname!

And a non-Hispanic woman in my unit in the army married a Hispanic man
and suddenly became classified as Hispanic because of her name change.

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#60354

FromErilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid>
Date2014-06-06 15:10 +0000
Message-ID<lmsll1$koc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60242
Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> In article <studnaVloYLVCQ3OnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Paul
> Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic.
> 
> Not even close to the majority.  As of two years ago (latest figures I
> could find), the Hispanic/Latino population of the US was 17% of the
> nation's total population.

There's a difference between nonwhite and Hispanic percentages 8-)
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#60254

Fromjamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet)
Date2014-06-06 05:44 +1200
Message-ID<1lmt09v.18bjr761bt9jg9N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz>
In reply to#60239
Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
> > On 2014-06-05, Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> 
> >>> Unicode support is mostly irrelevant for the vast majority of Usenet
> >>> users who spend their time in English language only groups where 99.99%
> >>> of posts are easily expressed in only ASCII.
> >> For American Usenet users, possibly, as American's seem to disdain
> >> accented characters (even in names like San José).
> 
> > Disdain? Nah, I mostly just ignore them. Better things to do. : )
> 
> >> For the rest of us who use words like résumé, café, Ångström, première,
> >> etc. it is not irrelevant.
> > 
> > Meh. It's a nice-to-have for me. Nothing more.
> 
> Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic. 
> Spanish without accents can be close to unintelligible, as many words
> are distinguished only by their presence or absence.
> 
> Paul Magnussen

Likewise many peoples the world over with names and languages with
characters outside the basic ASCII character set. I'm not saying it's a
bad thing for José to be able to write his name correctly in English
language groups, but he's got by, while typically concentrating on far
more pressing issues.

As a person with a French ancestry, I'm well aware - more than most, I
expect - how to properly spell English words borrowed from French, such
as résumé. But somehow I'm managed to make myself understood, and if I
ever find myself in a non-English group of a language I can even begin
to comprehend (that pretty much only being French, thanks to now
extremely rusty high school lessons), there are, as we Western English
users used to use for ourselves - specific commonly supported encodings
for said language, enabling the correct accented characters. Plus
Unicode in partial or full support, even in old clients like MacSOUP
(partial support, but good enough IME for nearly every communication I
can ever recall, excepting certain folk who seem to intentionally use
unnecessary extended characters to give other users grief - witness
certain earlier posts in this very thread).

I'd also add that ignoring the accents in words like résumé is quite
common, even allowed spellings. Look at nearly anyone communicating
online - laziness and/or time saving abounds, with accents and time
consuming correct spelling being frequently ignored in favour of those
typed faster. Even when the encoding exists and is in use, that will
support the ignored extended characters. Yet, somehow, we manage to be
understood with more than sufficient clarity.

Again - I'm not saying full uniform Unicode support is a bad thing :-)
Just that it's wayyyy down the list of priorities for virtually everyone
who cares to stop and think about what really impedes efficient
communication via Usenet, or any other plain text medium based on aging
standards. And that has never been a lack of full support for the
extended character set.

This really all goes to show that human beings have a singular talent
for developing almost fanatical bugbears, whose importance far exceeds
reality. Put it in perspective, and you realise it's far from the most
pressing issue. But some people seem to lack the ability to put anything
they hold dear into perspective... or should I say …? :-)

-- 
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

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#60267

Frombilly@MIX.COM
Date2014-06-05 18:09 +0000
Message-ID<lmqbo5$s8o$1@reader2.panix.com>
In reply to#60239
Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Don't forget that many Americans (the majority now?) are Hispanic. 

If not, some day soon.  Heh.

> Spanish without accents can be close to unintelligible, as many words 
> are distinguished only by their presence or absence.

Not to mention all the people throughout the world who deserve,
if nothing else, to have their names rendered correctly.

Billy "ASCII is so last century" Y..
-- 
        sub     #'9+1   ,r0             ; convert ascii byte
	add     #9.+1   ,r0             ; to an integer
	bcc     20$                     ; not a number

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#60259

FromDarrin "Doc" O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com>
Date2014-06-05 17:58 +0000
Message-ID<lmqb4d$tae$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#60234
For your reference, records indicate that 
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-06-05, Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> >
> > For the rest of us who use words like résumé, café, Ångström, première, 
> > etc. it is not irrelevant.
> 
> Meh. It's a nice-to-have for me. Nothing more.

Yeah, but a lot of what makes a Mac so great are things that are just
“nice-to-have”.  I don’t *need* to be able to right-click on an ostentatious
word and get a definition quickly, but I sure as hell missed having it
(Cocoa-style) when I was using MT-NW.

I vote for nice-to-have.

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#60279

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2014-06-05 19:21 +0000
Message-ID<bvbu98Fq80qU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#60259
On 2014-06-05, Darrin Doc O'Leary <droleary@2q2014.subsume.com> wrote:
> For your reference, records indicate that 
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-06-05, Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>> >
>> > For the rest of us who use words like résumé, café, Ångström, première, 
>> > etc. it is not irrelevant.
>> 
>> Meh. It's a nice-to-have for me. Nothing more.
>
> Yeah, but a lot of what makes a Mac so great are things that are just
> “nice-to-have”.  I don’t *need* to be able to right-click on an ostentatious
> word and get a definition quickly, but I sure as hell missed having it
> (Cocoa-style) when I was using MT-NW.
>
> I vote for nice-to-have.

Indeed. And if I were starting out with a Usenet client, I would of
course incorporate Unicode support (which, as you mentioned, isn't all
that hard considering you get it for free with Cocoa).

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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