Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.sys.mac.system > #57143 > unrolled thread

10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto?

Back to article view | Back to comp.sys.mac.system

Contents

  10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-26 15:12 -0500
    Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-27 10:12 +1300
      Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-26 22:18 +0000
        Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-26 17:48 -0500
          Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-02-26 22:53 +0000
            Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-02-26 17:57 -0500
      Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-27 17:56 +1300
        Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2014-02-27 12:52 -0500
          Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-28 12:04 +1300
        Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-27 17:07 -0500
          Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-02-28 12:20 +1300
          Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-28 00:46 +0000
    Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-26 23:33 +0000
      Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2014-02-27 10:10 -0800
    Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Ed Anson <EdAnson@comcast.net> - 2014-02-26 21:04 -0500
    Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Sandy Foster <sw.foster1@gmail.com> - 2014-02-26 18:27 -0800
      Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-27 17:04 -0500
        Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-28 00:40 +0000
          Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-27 19:52 -0500
            Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-28 10:42 +0000
              Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-28 16:35 -0500
                Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-02-28 23:21 +0000
                  Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-02-28 21:15 -0500
    Re: 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto? billy@MIX.COM - 2014-02-26 20:36 +0000

Page 1 of 2  [1] 2  Next page →

#57143 — 10.9.2 rushed over goto/goto?

1. My Safari bookmarks were not up to date where I left them (no biggie 
- I don't use Safari much and only noticed because I do use it for 
Netflix - the bookmark that was missing).

2. Forced re-inscription to iCloud during first boot.
    (Same on my SO's MBA).

3. All the things I set to NOT go to iCloud were clicked active
    (Same on my SO's MBA).

4. Dock icons were flying all over the screen whenever I hit the dock - 
this occurred a few times but haven't seen it since last night.

On the plus side my USB 3.0 disks aren't spontaneously ejecting as much 
as they were before.  Still happens - just less often.  (I hope I'm not 
premature in saying that)...

I suspect the rush to release the fixed goto/goto bug may have left a 
lot of cleanup for 10.9.3...

-- 
    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#57145

Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> 1. My Safari bookmarks were not up to date where I left them (no biggie
> - I don't use Safari much and only noticed because I do use it for 
> Netflix - the bookmark that was missing).
> 
> 2. Forced re-inscription to iCloud during first boot.
>     (Same on my SO's MBA).
> 
> 3. All the things I set to NOT go to iCloud were clicked active
>     (Same on my SO's MBA).
> 
> 4. Dock icons were flying all over the screen whenever I hit the dock -
> this occurred a few times but haven't seen it since last night.
> 
> On the plus side my USB 3.0 disks aren't spontaneously ejecting as much
> as they were before.  Still happens - just less often.  (I hope I'm not
> premature in saying that)...
> 
> I suspect the rush to release the fixed goto/goto bug may have left a
> lot of cleanup for 10.9.3...

There wasn't any point in Apple doing a rushed release of 10.9.2, as
they could have just done a targetted security update for 10.9.1, and
stuck to the original schedule for 10.9.2 (or delayed it a week).

Based on the timing pattern of reports of rumoured developer releases in
the last few weeks, it looked like Apple was getting ready to release
10.9.2 soon anyway, so the gotofail fix probably got added to what would
have been the public release anyway.

Perhaps some of the issues you noted didn't show up in testing by Apple
or developers, or if they did, Apple had decided they weren't worth
fixing yet.

Now to get on with my backup and install...

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57147

In article <1lhq1dg.428q7gjxn1o6N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson
<dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> > I suspect the rush to release the fixed goto/goto bug may have left a
> > lot of cleanup for 10.9.3...

> Based on the timing pattern of reports of rumoured developer releases in
> the last few weeks, it looked like Apple was getting ready to release
> 10.9.2 soon anyway, so the gotofail fix probably got added to what would
> have been the public release anyway.

What *is* this gotofail business?

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57148

In article <260220142218206692%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> What *is* this gotofail business?

it's the ssl bug that was just fixed.

<https://www.imperialviolet.org/>

test your system at
<https://gotofail.com/>

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57149

In article <260220141748010278%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <260220142218206692%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
> <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> 
> > What *is* this gotofail business?
> 
> it's the ssl bug that was just fixed.
> 
> <https://www.imperialviolet.org/>

Thanks. Mmm, that's God's punishment for using goto. I haven't used one
of those since 1978, when I stopped writing FORTRAN.

Well I lie slightly. When faced with Pascal for RSX-11 in about 1982,
which lacked the return statement, I had to put a label at the end of
the function and then goto that if I wanted an early exit.

-- 
Tim

"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed,
nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"  --  Bill of Rights 1689

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57150

In article <260220142253112139%timstreater@greenbee.net>, Tim Streater
<timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:

> > > What *is* this gotofail business?
> > 
> > it's the ssl bug that was just fixed.
> > 
> > <https://www.imperialviolet.org/>
> 
> Thanks. Mmm, that's God's punishment for using goto. I haven't used one
> of those since 1978, when I stopped writing FORTRAN.

it's not just the goto. that code is pretty bad for many reasons.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57160

David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Now to get on with my backup and install...

Done.

> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> 
> > 1. My Safari bookmarks were not up to date where I left them (no biggie
> > - I don't use Safari much and only noticed because I do use it for 
> > Netflix - the bookmark that was missing).

No such problem for me.

> > 2. Forced re-inscription to iCloud during first boot.
> >     (Same on my SO's MBA).

No such problem for me.

> > 3. All the things I set to NOT go to iCloud were clicked active
> >     (Same on my SO's MBA).

No such problem for me.

> > 4. Dock icons were flying all over the screen whenever I hit the dock -
> > this occurred a few times but haven't seen it since last night.

Haven't seen this yet.

> > On the plus side my USB 3.0 disks aren't spontaneously ejecting as much
> > as they were before.  Still happens - just less often.  (I hope I'm not
> > premature in saying that)...

That will be good if confirmed. In 10.9 and 10.9.1 I'd only observed
unexpected disk eject (both Firewire and USB 3.0) if the computer went
to sleep while an external drive was connected (and it didn't happen
every time).

A nice related fix: 10.9.2 reinstates putting Firewire drives (including
via the Thunderbolt adapter) to sleep after they are ejected. I haven't
tested yet whether they also go to sleep when idle.

It also seems that Mail has several more fixes, bringing it closer to
how it behaved in Mountain Lion.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57172

In article <1lhql5x.87une4131jim8N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
 dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:

> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> 
> > Now to get on with my backup and install...
> 
> Done.
> 
> > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > 
> > > 1. My Safari bookmarks were not up to date where I left them (no biggie
> > > - I don't use Safari much and only noticed because I do use it for 
> > > Netflix - the bookmark that was missing).
> 
> No such problem for me.

A number of people reported problems with Safari bookmarks, so this one 
definitely isn't unique to him.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57201

Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> In article <1lhql5x.87une4131jim8N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>,
>  dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote:
> 
> > David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> > 
> > > Now to get on with my backup and install...
> > 
> > Done.
> > 
> > > Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 1. My Safari bookmarks were not up to date where I left them (no biggie
> > > > - I don't use Safari much and only noticed because I do use it for
> > > > Netflix - the bookmark that was missing).
> > 
> > No such problem for me.
> 
> A number of people reported problems with Safari bookmarks, so this one
> definitely isn't unique to him.

On further investigation it does look like I've gained some old
bookmarks in the Bookmarks Menu, but I think it was just a change in how
the ones in the bookmarks folder were displayed. I rarely look in the
menu so I don't know whether they were already there in a previous
version.

I did back up my bookmarks before installing 10.9.2, and that copy seems
to match what I saw after installing 10.9.2.

 
-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57192

On 2014.02.26, 23:56 , David Empson wrote:
> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>> Now to get on with my backup and install...
>
> Done.
>
>> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> 1. My Safari bookmarks were not up to date where I left them (no biggie
>>> - I don't use Safari much and only noticed because I do use it for
>>> Netflix - the bookmark that was missing).
>
> No such problem for me.
>
>>> 2. Forced re-inscription to iCloud during first boot.
>>>      (Same on my SO's MBA).
>
> No such problem for me.
>
>>> 3. All the things I set to NOT go to iCloud were clicked active
>>>      (Same on my SO's MBA).
>
> No such problem for me.
>
>>> 4. Dock icons were flying all over the screen whenever I hit the dock -
>>> this occurred a few times but haven't seen it since last night.
>
> Haven't seen this yet.

See other replies and comments - variable mix of similar and other 
issues - did you see Kevin McMurtrie's post in "10.9.2 is out, by the 
way...":

QUOTE

My laptop at work booted with both the internal and external monitor
backlights completely off.  A forced reboot didn't fix it and the
brightness keys didn't work.  I had to unplug the external monitor and
shine a light through the Apple logo to log in.  The backlight keys then 
worked after login finished.

END QUTE


>>> On the plus side my USB 3.0 disks aren't spontaneously ejecting as much
>>> as they were before.  Still happens - just less often.  (I hope I'm not
>>> premature in saying that)...
>
> That will be good if confirmed. In 10.9 and 10.9.1 I'd only observed
> unexpected disk eject (both Firewire and USB 3.0) if the computer went
> to sleep while an external drive was connected (and it didn't happen
> every time).

Here it happens out of the blue while doing other things.

To be clear - I should have said "disconnect", not "Eject".

I've been on with Apple support at various times over the past 5 days - 
getting kicked up the ladder at each pass.  I've been running "Capture 
Data" for them waiting for another disconnect... so of course it's not 
happening ...

>
> A nice related fix: 10.9.2 reinstates putting Firewire drives (including
> via the Thunderbolt adapter) to sleep after they are ejected. I haven't
> tested yet whether they also go to sleep when idle.
>
> It also seems that Mail has several more fixes, bringing it closer to
> how it behaved in Mountain Lion.

Just noticed another issue - my Message app on the Mac is no longer 
sync'd to my iPhone.  Gotta sort that out too.

-- 
   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57203

Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2014.02.26, 23:56 , David Empson wrote:
> > David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> >

[...]

> See other replies and comments - variable mix of similar and other 
> issues - did you see Kevin McMurtrie's post in "10.9.2 is out, by the
> way...":
> 
> QUOTE
> 
> My laptop at work booted with both the internal and external monitor
> backlights completely off.  A forced reboot didn't fix it and the
> brightness keys didn't work.  I had to unplug the external monitor and
> shine a light through the Apple logo to log in.  The backlight keys then
> worked after login finished.
> 
> END QUTE

I saw something similar last weekend on a MacBook Air running 10.8.5 -
the backlight didn't come on when it started up (the battery had got
down to 0% so that might have been a factor). It came right on the next
restart. Neat trick with the bright light - I must remember that.

> > A nice related fix: 10.9.2 reinstates putting Firewire drives (including
> > via the Thunderbolt adapter) to sleep after they are ejected. I haven't
> > tested yet whether they also go to sleep when idle.
> >
> > It also seems that Mail has several more fixes, bringing it closer to
> > how it behaved in Mountain Lion.
> 
> Just noticed another issue - my Message app on the Mac is no longer 
> sync'd to my iPhone.  Gotta sort that out too.

Also not happening for me, and in any case, Messages on the Mac isn't
"synced" to the iPhone - incoming and outgoing messages should end up on
both devices via the server, but they don't directly sync the content of
existing conversations.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57219

In message <_9WdnU8tKK-kKpLOnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.02.26, 23:56 , David Empson wrote:
>> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

>>>> 2. Forced re-inscription to iCloud during first boot.
>>>>      (Same on my SO's MBA).
>>
>> No such problem for me.

I did have to login to iCloud on the 6th mac I updated, but I suspect it
had not been logged into iCloud since the LAST update.

-- 
"Humor is a rubber sword - it allows you to make a point without drawing
blood." - Mary Hirsch

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57153

In message <atednbCGNqNf15POnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> 1. My Safari bookmarks were not up to date where I left them (no biggie 
> - I don't use Safari much and only noticed because I do use it for 
> Netflix - the bookmark that was missing).

> 2. Forced re-inscription to iCloud during first boot.
>     (Same on my SO's MBA).

Not here on 5 machines. Machine #6 has not been updated yet.

> 3. All the things I set to NOT go to iCloud were clicked active
>     (Same on my SO's MBA).

I can neither confirm nor deny, everything is checked as it was before.

> 4. Dock icons were flying all over the screen whenever I hit the dock - 
> this occurred a few times but haven't seen it since last night.

Hrm. Never seen that.

> On the plus side my USB 3.0 disks aren't spontaneously ejecting as much 
> as they were before.  Still happens - just less often.  (I hope I'm not 
> premature in saying that)...

A friend could not mount any SD cards until he rebooted (into safe mode,
possibly not relevant) and then rebooted again.

> I suspect the rush to release the fixed goto/goto bug may have left a 
> lot of cleanup for 10.9.3...

I doubt it. 10.9.2 was very close to release anyway, and was expected any
day. Might have been a few days early is all.

-- 
RTFM replies are great, but please specify exactly which FM to R

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57299

On 2014-02-26 23:33:47 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <atednbCGNqNf15POnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@giganews.com>
>   Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

>> 2. Forced re-inscription to iCloud during first boot.
>> (Same on my SO's MBA).
> 
> Not here on 5 machines. Machine #6 has not been updated yet.

Happened to me on one of three machines I updated.

Got notifications about various IDs added to iMessage, too, probably 
related to above.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57156

On 2/26/14, 3:12 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> 3. All the things I set to NOT go to iCloud were clicked active
>     (Same on my SO's MBA).

I don't know about the other things mentioned, but I had this experience 
as well. Fortunately, I caught it before too much damage was done.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57157

1. My Safari bookmarks were just as before — no problem there.
2. I also had to sign in for iCloud again on one machine, but second 
machine didn't.
3. iCloud had the same selections as before and the same items not selected.
4. No dock icon problems

Another plus for me is that my Mail.app dock icon now has the correct 
number of unread messages showing; the incorrect, "frozen" number had 
been a minor annoyance before.
-- 
Sandy

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57191

On 2014.02.26, 21:27 , Sandy Foster wrote:
> 1. My Safari bookmarks were just as before — no problem there.
> 2. I also had to sign in for iCloud again on one machine, but second
> machine didn't.
> 3. iCloud had the same selections as before and the same items not
> selected.
> 4. No dock icon problems
>
> Another plus for me is that my Mail.app dock icon now has the correct
> number of unread messages showing; the incorrect, "frozen" number had
> been a minor annoyance before.

Next time that occurs (I haven't seen it in a few years, actually, tuck 
this away to run in terminal (quit Mail first)):

sqlite3 ~/Library/Mail/Envelope\ Index vacuum

It will very quickly clean out dangling crap from the Mail db hopefully 
making things right with the badge counts.

-- 
    ... it may be that "in the cloud" really isn't the best term
    for the services these companies offer.  What they really
    want is to have us "on the leash."
                   -David Pogue, Scientific American, 2014.02

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57218

In message <t6mdnQQS_oLLK5LOnZ2dnUVZ_ggAAAAA@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.02.26, 21:27 , Sandy Foster wrote:
>> 1. My Safari bookmarks were just as before — no problem there.
>> 2. I also had to sign in for iCloud again on one machine, but second
>> machine didn't.
>> 3. iCloud had the same selections as before and the same items not
>> selected.
>> 4. No dock icon problems
>>
>> Another plus for me is that my Mail.app dock icon now has the correct
>> number of unread messages showing; the incorrect, "frozen" number had
>> been a minor annoyance before.

> Next time that occurs (I haven't seen it in a few years, actually, tuck 
> this away to run in terminal (quit Mail first)):

> sqlite3 ~/Library/Mail/Envelope\ Index vacuum

That hasn't been useful since 10.5

> It will very quickly clean out dangling crap from the Mail db hopefully 
> making things right with the badge counts.

No, the badge count issue is a bug in 10.9 and 10.9.1. Supposed to be
fixed in 10.9.2, but I haven't seen the dock since I updated.


-- 
Lady Astor: "If you were my husband I'd give you poison." Churchill: "If
you were my wife, I'd drink it."

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57222

On 2014.02.27, 19:40 , Lewis wrote:
> In message <t6mdnQQS_oLLK5LOnZ2dnUVZ_ggAAAAA@giganews.com>
>    Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2014.02.26, 21:27 , Sandy Foster wrote:
>>> 1. My Safari bookmarks were just as before — no problem there.
>>> 2. I also had to sign in for iCloud again on one machine, but second
>>> machine didn't.
>>> 3. iCloud had the same selections as before and the same items not
>>> selected.
>>> 4. No dock icon problems
>>>
>>> Another plus for me is that my Mail.app dock icon now has the correct
>>> number of unread messages showing; the incorrect, "frozen" number had
>>> been a minor annoyance before.
>
>> Next time that occurs (I haven't seen it in a few years, actually, tuck
>> this away to run in terminal (quit Mail first)):
>
>> sqlite3 ~/Library/Mail/Envelope\ Index vacuum
>
> That hasn't been useful since 10.5

Really?  Any references to that?

-- 
   Privacy has become an essential personal chore that most
   people are not trained to perform.
                  - Jaron Lanier, Scientific American, 2013.11.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#57232

In message <7fudnfRPT-1BQJLOnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@giganews.com> 
  Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2014.02.27, 19:40 , Lewis wrote:
>> In message <t6mdnQQS_oLLK5LOnZ2dnUVZ_ggAAAAA@giganews.com>
>>    Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
>>> On 2014.02.26, 21:27 , Sandy Foster wrote:
>>>> 1. My Safari bookmarks were just as before — no problem there.
>>>> 2. I also had to sign in for iCloud again on one machine, but second
>>>> machine didn't.
>>>> 3. iCloud had the same selections as before and the same items not
>>>> selected.
>>>> 4. No dock icon problems
>>>>
>>>> Another plus for me is that my Mail.app dock icon now has the correct
>>>> number of unread messages showing; the incorrect, "frozen" number had
>>>> been a minor annoyance before.
>>
>>> Next time that occurs (I haven't seen it in a few years, actually, tuck
>>> this away to run in terminal (quit Mail first)):
>>
>>> sqlite3 ~/Library/Mail/Envelope\ Index vacuum
>>
>> That hasn't been useful since 10.5

> Really?  Any references to that?

Simple enough, try it (with the right path which is now
~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData/Envelope Index

The size of the file will not change.

-- 
'Good and bad is tricky, she [Esme] said. 'I ain't too certain about
where people stand. P'raps what matters is which way you face.'

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

Page 1 of 2  [1] 2  Next page →

Back to top | Article view | comp.sys.mac.system

csiph-web