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Preview vs Adobe Reader

Started byJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
First post2014-01-20 15:33 -0500
Last post2014-01-23 22:21 +0100
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  Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 15:33 -0500
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2014-01-20 20:41 +0000
      Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 16:03 -0500
        Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-20 16:17 -0500
          Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 17:35 -0500
            Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:35 +1300
              Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 21:05 -0500
                Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 16:40 +1300
                  Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 22:50 -0500
                    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 18:52 +1300
          Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-21 12:20 +1300
            Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-21 14:09 +0000
            Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2014-01-23 14:26 -0800
              Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-24 12:31 +1300
                Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-23 16:34 -0800
                Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Bread <BreadWithSpam@Fractious.net> - 2014-01-23 16:40 -0800
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-20 16:08 -0500
      Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 17:35 -0500
      Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:39 +1300
        Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2014-01-20 19:21 -0600
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:37 +1300
      Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 20:15 -0500
      Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 23:38 -0500
        Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
    Re: Preview vs Adobe Reader Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2014-01-23 22:21 +0100

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#55113

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-01-21 13:37 +1300
Message-ID<210120141337442269%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#55070
In article <lbk169$189$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
wrote:

> I have Mavericks. I downloaded my high-school yearbook as a PDF and 
> opened it with Preview.  At Actual Size, the pages were less than 8" 
> wide and not very clear.  When I zoomed, I could find no way to scroll 
> sideways. They still weren't very clear.
> 
> I tried Adobe Reader.  At 100%, the pages were more realistic at 10" 
> wide, and I could scroll sideways.  With the same page at the same size 
> on the screen, photos and captions were clearer with Adobe.
> 
> Is something wrong with Preview?

Preview and Adobe Reader will have different ways of displaying the
PDF, as will every other PDF viewer there is. Early versions of Preview
were hopeless for viewing CMYK print quality PDFs ad would disply
horrible colour shifts.

Technically since PDF is a Adobe format, Adobe Reader should be the
best application to use that properly displays everything using the
correct standards ... unfortunately there are also many different ways
to create a PDF, and lots of them do things in non-standard ways.

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#55120

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-20 20:15 -0500
Message-ID<200120142015336305%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#55113
In article <210120141337442269%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> Technically since PDF is a Adobe format,

nope. pdf is an iso format. adobe does not own it.

> Adobe Reader should be the
> best application to use that properly displays everything using the
> correct standards

and it is. there are pdfs that will not display properly in apple's
preview, typically forms. 

> ... unfortunately there are also many different ways
> to create a PDF, and lots of them do things in non-standard ways.

true, and apple's pdf implementation is among those.

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#55140

FromJ Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
Date2014-01-20 23:38 -0500
Message-ID<lbktl5$rom$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#55113
On 1/20/14, 7:37 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <lbk169$189$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I have Mavericks. I downloaded my high-school yearbook as a PDF and
>> opened it with Preview.  At Actual Size, the pages were less than 8"
>> wide and not very clear.  When I zoomed, I could find no way to scroll
>> sideways. They still weren't very clear.
>>
>> I tried Adobe Reader.  At 100%, the pages were more realistic at 10"
>> wide, and I could scroll sideways.  With the same page at the same size
>> on the screen, photos and captions were clearer with Adobe.
>>
>> Is something wrong with Preview?
>
> Preview and Adobe Reader will have different ways of displaying the
> PDF, as will every other PDF viewer there is. Early versions of Preview
> were hopeless for viewing CMYK print quality PDFs ad would disply
> horrible colour shifts.
>
> Technically since PDF is a Adobe format, Adobe Reader should be the
> best application to use that properly displays everything using the
> correct standards ... unfortunately there are also many different ways
> to create a PDF, and lots of them do things in non-standard ways.
>
I've read that the specification was free of charge but controlled by 
Adobe until ISO 32000-1:2008, dated July 1, 2008.  The document was made 
by Acrobat 10.4.1, which I think came out long after 2008.  If Preview 
doesn't even get the right actual size, it sounds like the fault is with 
Preview.

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#55154

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
Message-ID<210120140446446523%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#55140
In article <lbktl5$rom$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com>
wrote:

> > Preview and Adobe Reader will have different ways of displaying the
> > PDF, as will every other PDF viewer there is. Early versions of Preview
> > were hopeless for viewing CMYK print quality PDFs ad would disply
> > horrible colour shifts.
> >
> > Technically since PDF is a Adobe format, Adobe Reader should be the
> > best application to use that properly displays everything using the
> > correct standards ... unfortunately there are also many different ways
> > to create a PDF, and lots of them do things in non-standard ways.
> >
> I've read that the specification was free of charge but controlled by 
> Adobe until ISO 32000-1:2008, dated July 1, 2008.  The document was made 
> by Acrobat 10.4.1, which I think came out long after 2008.  If Preview 
> doesn't even get the right actual size, it sounds like the fault is with 
> Preview.

preview is not fully pdf compliant. it's a well known issue, and apple
does not consider it to be a bug. 

if a pdf won't display properly in preview, you need to use the free
acrobat (or paid version if you prefer).

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#55257

FromPaul Sture <nospam@sture.ch>
Date2014-01-23 22:21 +0100
Message-ID<und8ra-d3u.ln1@news.chingola.ch>
In reply to#55070
J Burns wrote:

> I have Mavericks. I downloaded my high-school yearbook as a PDF and 
> opened it with Preview.  At Actual Size, the pages were less than 8" 
> wide and not very clear.  When I zoomed, I could find no way to scroll 
> sideways. They still weren't very clear.
>
> I tried Adobe Reader.  At 100%, the pages were more realistic at 10" 
> wide, and I could scroll sideways.  With the same page at the same size 
> on the screen, photos and captions were clearer with Adobe.
>
> Is something wrong with Preview?

In Preview under Mavericks the horizontal scrollbar won't appear.

Use the left and right arrow keys instead.

-- 
xmlstarlet sel --help | head -n$LINES # Show only the first $LINES lines
of output, so it fits your terminal exactly.    -- CLI Magic

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