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Re: P: David - the backdoor source code

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  Re: P: David - the backdoor source code Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
    Re: P: David - the backdoor source code Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-04 23:02 -0700
      Re: P: David - the backdoor source code Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-05 09:06 +0000
      Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2020-07-06 08:36 +0000
        Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> - 2020-07-07 08:42 +0100
          Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2020-07-07 14:00 +0000
            Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-07 09:11 -0500
              Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2020-07-07 14:29 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2020-07-07 09:45 -0500
                  Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-07 07:48 -0700
                    Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2020-07-07 14:56 +0000
            Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-08 06:41 +0000
              Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2020-07-08 13:02 +0000
                Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-10 05:27 +0000
                  Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none> - 2020-07-10 14:06 +0000
                    Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2020-07-12 04:27 +0000
                      Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2020-07-12 06:46 +0000

#133278 — Re: P: David - the backdoor source code

FromDiesel <nobody@haph.org>
Date2020-07-05 05:54 +0000
SubjectRe: P: David - the backdoor source code
Message-ID<XnsABF11429E33E0HT1@7aW867X40S.9lJNmPdw66w3c02zdyrWSw906>
Steve Carroll - fretwizzer <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
news:c5b2a852-880f-44be-aadc-44ce17b74d88o@googlegroups.com Fri, 03
Jul 2020 13:28:02 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 

 
>> > But can you do this *through* Google Groups (if that is
>> > where the posts are even coming through)?
>> 
>> Yes. I could. And yes, they are coming from google.
> 
> How do you know that?

I can read headers...
   
>> Oh, for sure, I'm not discounting the possibility that he's a 
>> copy/paste script kiddie kind of wannabe programmer. The aim bot 
>> shows thats the case.
> 
> After questioning him about it a couple of years ago
> he convinced me he didn't write it, he added to it.

I've read that discussion too. I haven't been ignoring what either of 
you have been writing. I have been looking into things each of you 
has stated, as time allows.
 
>> he could have by now, learned enough from what 
>> you've shared to cobble some js together by now, sure.
> 
> He'd only need the one line to target/click elements.
> 
> How difficult is it to add ".click()" or figure out
> how to call the line from within AS, a thing he was
> already doing with shell scripts? 

It's not, but this is all pointless anyway.
  
>> And I don't know of any professional web developers who are js 
>> stupid...
> 
> If he's as stupid as he's claiming, he must've used what
> you're talking about for his COLA bot. I still don't buy
> his BS that it's out of his league to write that one line.
> There's no way he could've done what it took to just add 
> to that AOL bot if he were *that* bad at research.

It's possible his underlying issues really do conflict with his 
ability to learn and retain information. it's equally possible he's 
taking advantage of his unique situation and is fully aware of what 
he's doing; and if that's the case, it's intentional on his part and 
he deserves what anyone else would get for it; regardless of 
underlying medical condition.
 
>> And unless I'm mistaken, didn't he at one point claim to be 
>> a web developer with clients? Was he misrepresenting his
>> abilities and charging people as a professional when infact he
>> wasn't? 
> 
> He had like 4-6 clients in his portfolio at any one
> time. Personally, I never saw any more than the same
> 4-6 clients over a period of roughly a dozen years.

Jeeze. How the fuck does a company pay it's bills, let alone turn a 
profit with 4-6 clients? That's nuts. I couldn't do it.

>> My opinion is subject to change pending new evidence, certainly.
>> I'm checking into the sigmond posts as time allows.
>>  
>> >> I have. I'd still like to know how asking questions is being 
>> >> manipulative? 
>> > 
>> > That claim, by him, is the manipulation. Projection is
>> > a huge part of his MO.
>> 
>> Yes, I know. :) It cracks me up that he came here with the psy
>> degree thinking he would be able to use it to con or otherwise
>> snow various individuals here. He needs a refund on that degree.
>> 
>> I took it as him preparing for phase two, since even he has to
>> notice interaction with him is dropping. Soon, aside from David
>> and an occasional post from you or myself calling him out for
>> another lie, crickets will be the only thing he can look forward
>> to interacting with here. 
>> 
>> I told you, he wasn't snowing anybody; everyone was collecting
>> data, taking notes in their own way. We still are. :)
> 
> No doubt he'll blame me... but he put it there.

Maybe. I'm first though. I'm the one, according to snit, who's formed 
a coalition (hahahaha) against me. He's full of shit, and we both 
know that, but.. alas.
 
>> Heh, he is. I can assure you.
> 
> Snit keeps hammering away, I don't see DB doing the same.
> That I've seen, DB's attempts at 'psych' crap are pretty 
> feeble. YMMV.

Are you intentionally blind towards DB?

Let me bring you upto speed:

Message-ID: <fPqYB.171658$u91.45539@fx02.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=156316302300
 
> You've been caught lying your ass off multiple times. As well as
> intentionally violating copyrights of others when it
> suits/pleases you to do so. You've also been caught attempting
> to hire individuals to hack (crack actually) into various sites
> you'd already been banned from. You want others to commit
> felonies for your benefit and when they don't, you resort to
> trying to blackmail them.
 
 That's not QUITE true. *YOU* are the *ONLY* one AFAICR.
 
 *** end snippit

Message-ID: <fPqYB.171658$u91.45539@fx02.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=156316302300

<2SfjE.144618$Nv5.134974@fx30.fr7>
On 16/03/2019 15:49, Anonymous Remailer (austria) wrote:
> In article <NT3jE.139191$We4.47405@fx01.fr7> David in Devon 
> <BDonTJ@REMOVE.gmail.com> wrote: 
>>
>> On 16/03/2019 01:40, Diesel wrote: 
>>> I've never needed a 'friend' like you, David. Anymore so than I 
>>> need another hole in my fucking head. 
>>
>> Do explain, for others to better understand, *WHY* you didn't 
>> respond positively to my email, Dustin. >> 
> 
> Jax responded "positively" to your email and it got her/him 
> blackmailed from Usenet. You're a snake, BD. I'm sure that's how
> you became rather wealthy. You slither right in under people's
> guard. By the time they feel the stiletto between their shoulder
> blades, it's too late. 

I do endeavour to be good at everything I do, but feel I must correct 
you on one point.

Jax was blackmailed, sure enough, but not from Usenet - only from one 
specific group. That was 'scorched-earth' and that was for her 
protection -  Dustin was snipping at her heels and Jax didn't seem to 
recognise the danger she was in.

I miss my friendly chats with her and do hope she's recovering from
her stressful illness. If you are in touch with her, please give my
warm regards to Jax's sister. 

*** end snippit

Message-ID: <_KA9E.86455$Xl2.27908@fx20.fr7>
> I proceeded to answer other questions you provided in the same
> email asking about it. You indicated no issue with me, no
> accusation of my being a 'bad guy' until years later, here on
> usenet. 

That's correct. I didn't let on that you were a target and I'd
scored a bullseye. 

> Other than your known dishonesty, is there a particular reason you 
> aren't sharing the entire contents of your inquiry leading up to
> that paste? 

I'm totally honest with good guys. What else would you like me to
tell any newbies about you? 

*** end paste


Begin Davids efforts in rec photo:

MID: <UOlQA.740019$kC.233802@fx16.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=149437329500

Request denied. David tries again:

MID:  <PZLQA.735267$Tn2.417645@fx02.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=149461165500

Request denied, again. David doesn't give up easily.

MID: <wfTQA.574616$EW4.516451@fx18.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=149461088500

Gets no where, again. So, David comes clean with the
group in public on his intentions towards me:

MID: <C87RA.739350$Mr1.566802@fx27.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=149456200100

Doesn't really get anywhere. Makes little progress.. Until...

MID: <xrAeC.774106$xP5.431837@fx08.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=152201851200

Evidently goes nowhere on him, as I'm still here. But, yes, he did 
try turning things around and painting himself as a victim of some 
kind. Neat huh?

Another go at stalking me and asking others to help. He even keeps 
screenshots incriminating his own stalking behaviors. ROFL!

MID:  <og24t8$v6f$1@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=149603382000

He's basically told to pound sand, continues, releasing more 
'information' he thinks he knows about me to speed things up

MID: <og3ai1$3pk$1@dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=152201858800

Perhaps this additional information regarding his date of birth will 
be helpful in identifying his ACTUAL address?

Davids real upset with me, asks rec.photo for help!
MID: <C87RA.739350$Mr1.566802@fx27.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=149456200100

David stalking a domain site owner
MID: <nnfp92$hld$1@boaterdave.dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=152201905200

David Stalking Paul Adare
MID: <nh19s7$dq9$1@boaterdave.dont-email.me>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=152201910900

David specifying an .exe malware file that he knew wasn't on
tekrider domain. After claiming it was previously.
MID: <YWYbC.758650$iM5.434140@fx05.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=151796841900

David trying to dox me again with a new signature
MID: <6KyeC.677082$hn.471484@fx07.fr7>
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=151805918800

I can be trusted to 'shop' you and bring you to justice!
You really shouldn't have used a new signature. Perhaps you'll 
refrain from so doing now that I've got one too?

David threatens me with a bigger? doxing. 
MID: <E6GdneYsQ8Xw6p7JnZ2dnUVZ8rudnZ2d@bt.com>
al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=152201932100

Would you like me to publish YOUR personal details Dustin? I have 
them. They were disclosed to me by a 'friend' who lives in the USA.
Genuine stuff - REAL LIFE info! Just say the word and I'll post same 
in all 110,000 plus Usenet groups  held by Giganews!

You are being played by David. Whatever you teach him that he 
actually retains will be used to harrass other people he develops 
hinkies about. 



 



-- 
Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of the drive-up ATM?

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#133283

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2020-07-04 23:02 -0700
Message-ID<hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#133278
On 7/4/20 10:54 PM, Diesel wrote:
> Steve Carroll - fretwizzer <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
> news:c5b2a852-880f-44be-aadc-44ce17b74d88o@googlegroups.com Fri, 03
> Jul 2020 13:28:02 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>   
>>>> But can you do this *through* Google Groups (if that is
>>>> where the posts are even coming through)?
>>>
>>> Yes. I could. And yes, they are coming from google.
>>
>> How do you know that?
> 
> I can read headers...

At least in the past such could be faked. Sandman even was able to fake 
IP addresses. Carroll and he got a good laugh out of that.

...


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#133293

FromDiesel <nobody@haph.org>
Date2020-07-05 09:06 +0000
Message-ID<XnsABF134D576E95HT1@x9h.9y7VnZ1unkFuGQ5a0>
In reply to#133283
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
news:hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net Sun, 05 Jul 2020 06:02:51 GMT
in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 

> On 7/4/20 10:54 PM, Diesel wrote:
>> Steve Carroll - fretwizzer <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
>> news:c5b2a852-880f-44be-aadc-44ce17b74d88o@googlegroups.com Fri,
>> 03 Jul 2020 13:28:02 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>> 
>>   
>>>>> But can you do this *through* Google Groups (if that is
>>>>> where the posts are even coming through)?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. I could. And yes, they are coming from google.
>>>
>>> How do you know that?
>> 
>> I can read headers...
> 
> At least in the past such could be faked. 

Even in the past, not all of it. Not without running your own server 
and having a seriously defective upstream feed. Neither of which I'm 
confident either of you would be able to do without significant hand 
holding.

> Sandman even was able to fake IP addresses. 

Probably not in the way you're thinking, Snit.



-- 
I take my pet lion to church every Sunday. He has to eat. --Marty 
Pollio

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#133327 — Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromSandman <mr@sandman.net>
Date2020-07-06 08:36 +0000
SubjectSnit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<sandman-0dc243c7b2c3ce46ed8a97be5b5db6a7@individual.net>
In reply to#133283
In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:

> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.

[X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)

Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
 troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest           0/2   
 sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   | honest           0/102 
 run              0/22  | css              0/46  | tilde            0/0   
 proof            0/31  |

-- 
Sandman

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#133332 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromDavid_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2020-07-07 08:42 +0100
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<JHVMG.16627$pk7.10582@fx09.ams1>
In reply to#133327
On 06/07/2020 09:36, Sandman wrote:
> In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:
> 
>> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.
> 
> [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)
> 
> Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest           0/2
>   sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   | honest           0/102
>   run              0/22  | css              0/46  | tilde            0/0
>   proof            0/31  |
> 



HTTP Response

Final URL
http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trollcriteria/Lying
Serving IP Address
94.247.170.170
Status Code
200
Body Length
18.59 KB
Body SHA-256
ae124c90bd9fc24a80833eecf5e4a8a0f3bbfe03ea31682d6c26c53d0f51ca81
Headers
connection	Upgrade, Keep-Alive
content-length	19032
content-type	text/html; charset=UTF-8
date	Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:39:15 GMT
keep-alive	timeout=5, max=100
server	Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)
upgrade	h2,h2c
vary	Accept-Encoding
Trackers

Google Analytics
UA-579308-6 (https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js)
HTML

Title
usenet
Meta Tags
author	Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
author-email	jonas@eklundh.com
copyright	Jonas Eklundh (Sandman) @2020
creation-time	0.620s
description	lie
generator	Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
generator-contact	jonas@eklundh.com
keywords	Atlas,Innehållsystem,Jonas Eklundh,TV-tablåer,Spöa 
Sandman,Skicka vykort,Önskelista,DVD 
samling,Krönikor,Myst,Riven,Uru,Ikoner,Ikon,Icon,MediaMac,Macintosh,Mac
kort	CSM
title	usenet
viewport	width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=2.0

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#133333 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromSteve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
Date2020-07-07 14:00 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<re1v5v$5s2$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133332
On 2020-07-07, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 06/07/2020 09:36, Sandman wrote:
>> In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:
>> 
>>> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.
>> 
>> [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)
>> 
>> Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>   troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest           0/2
>>   sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   | honest           0/102
>>   run              0/22  | css              0/46  | tilde            0/0
>>   proof            0/31  |
>> 
>
>
>
> HTTP Response
>
> Final URL
> http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trollcriteria/Lying
> Serving IP Address
> 94.247.170.170
> Status Code
> 200
> Body Length
> 18.59 KB
> Body SHA-256
> ae124c90bd9fc24a80833eecf5e4a8a0f3bbfe03ea31682d6c26c53d0f51ca81
> Headers
> connection	Upgrade, Keep-Alive
> content-length	19032
> content-type	text/html; charset=UTF-8
> date	Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:39:15 GMT
> keep-alive	timeout=5, max=100
> server	Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)
> upgrade	h2,h2c
> vary	Accept-Encoding
> Trackers
>
> Google Analytics
> UA-579308-6 (https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js)
> HTML
>
> Title
> usenet
> Meta Tags
> author	Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
> author-email	jonas@eklundh.com
> copyright	Jonas Eklundh (Sandman) @2020
> creation-time	0.620s
> description	lie
> generator	Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
> generator-contact	jonas@eklundh.com
> keywords	Atlas,Innehållsystem,Jonas Eklundh,TV-tablåer,Spöa 
> Sandman,Skicka vykort,Önskelista,DVD 
> samling,Krönikor,Myst,Riven,Uru,Ikoner,Ikon,Icon,MediaMac,Macintosh,Mac
> kort	CSM
> title	usenet
> viewport	width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=2.0


You've done it! You busted Sandman's bot... that underscores some
reasons why what virtually everyone who has ever interacted with Snit on
usenet has labeled him, a liar, troll worse ;):

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#133334 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-07 09:11 -0500
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<6h09gftns0levpkkfvf0mi1rr8530nnohq@4ax.com>
In reply to#133333
Some idiot forging "Steve Carroll" wrote:

>You've done it!

Ignore the forger.

-- 
'It is amazing... Roy asks me a question.  I answer.  chrisv whines
that he needs to be "educated".'  -  some thing, lying shamelessly
(but no one can quote it lying)

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#133335 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromSteve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
Date2020-07-07 14:29 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<re20s7$hsq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133334
On 2020-07-07, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Some idiot forging "Steve Carroll" wrote:
>
>>You've done it!
>
> Ignore the forger.

It's not a forgery.

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#133336 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2020-07-07 09:45 -0500
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<t729gfp15raksokkb39aee0626ar88vove@4ax.com>
In reply to#133335
Some idiot forging Steve Carroll wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> Some idiot forging "Steve Carroll" wrote:
>>>
>>>You've done it!
>>
>> Ignore the forger.
>
> It's not a forgery.

Ignore the forger.

-- 
"You mean that web that because of cheaper servers allowed for the
explosion in bogus websites for phsihing attacks?  The entire argument
is simply one that Linux facilitated lower operating costs sooner, and
that wasn't always for the better."  -  asshole "-hh".  (Some people
would just concede the point that it's "good" that Linux facilitated
lower computing costs.  The "-hh" asshole had to bicker about it.)

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#133337 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2020-07-07 07:48 -0700
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<hmjgajFuaduU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#133336
On 7/7/20 7:45 AM, chrisv wrote:
> Some idiot forging Steve Carroll wrote:
> 
>> chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>> Some idiot forging "Steve Carroll" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You've done it!
>>>
>>> Ignore the forger.
>>
>> It's not a forgery.
> 
> Ignore the forger.

Or is he being hacked "again"? LOL!

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#133338 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromSteve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
Date2020-07-07 14:56 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<re22fd$ruk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133337
On 2020-07-07, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 7/7/20 7:45 AM, chrisv wrote:
>> Some idiot forging Steve Carroll wrote:
>> 
>>> chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Some idiot forging "Steve Carroll" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You've done it!
>>>>
>>>> Ignore the forger.
>>>
>>> It's not a forgery.
>> 
>> Ignore the forger.
>
> Or is he being hacked "again"? LOL!

How do you two fools propose to "prove" forgery, Mr. Forger? 

BTW, I thought you were going to 'help' DB learn 'web stuff', what
happened? Which one of you got too 'tired' first ;)

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#133344 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromDiesel <nobody@haph.org>
Date2020-07-08 06:41 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<XnsABF41C3D2D015HT1@f4EZwB2g0uUBKz22.8Sof8pxpeS2rFzUqv91pt7sP08TCGLp0A3L>
In reply to#133333
Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
news:re1v5v$5s2$1@dont-email.me Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:00:31 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 

> On 2020-07-07, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 06/07/2020 09:36, Sandman wrote:
>>> In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:
>>> 
>>>> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.
>>> 
>>> [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)
>>> 
>>> Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>> -------- 
>>>   troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest      
>>>       0/2 sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   |
>>>   honest           0/102 run              0/22  | css           
>>>     0/46  | tilde            0/0 proof            0/31  |
>>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> HTTP Response
>>
>> Final URL
>> http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trollcriteria/Lying
>> Serving IP Address
>> 94.247.170.170
>> Status Code
>> 200
>> Body Length
>> 18.59 KB
>> Body SHA-256
>> ae124c90bd9fc24a80833eecf5e4a8a0f3bbfe03ea31682d6c26c53d0f51ca81
>> Headers
>> connection     Upgrade, Keep-Alive
>> content-length     19032
>> content-type     text/html; charset=UTF-8
>> date     Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:39:15 GMT
>> keep-alive     timeout=5, max=100
>> server     Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)
>> upgrade     h2,h2c
>> vary     Accept-Encoding
>> Trackers
>>
>> Google Analytics
>> UA-579308-6 (https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js)
>> HTML
>>
>> Title
>> usenet
>> Meta Tags
>> author     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>> author-email     jonas@eklundh.com
>> copyright     Jonas Eklundh (Sandman) @2020
>> creation-time     0.620s
>> description     lie
>> generator     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>> generator-contact     jonas@eklundh.com
>> keywords     Atlas,Innehållsystem,Jonas
>> Eklundh,TV-tablåer,Spöa Sandman,Skicka vykort,Önskelista,DVD 
>> samling,Krönikor,Myst,Riven,Uru,Ikoner,Ikon,Icon,MediaMac,Macinto
>> sh,Mac kort     CSM
>> title     usenet
>> viewport     width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0,
>> maximum-scale=2.0 
> 
> 
> You've done it! You busted Sandman's bot... that underscores some
> reasons why what virtually everyone who has ever interacted with
> Snit on usenet has labeled him, a liar, troll worse ;):

I've yet to label him. I've only written the truth concerning him. 
He's lied about me, several times now, and has attempted on several 
occasions now to project his own short comings (which is basically 
being nearly illiterate) on me. Oh, and lately, he makes wild threats 
of police. He claimed I should ask you about that, as I shake in my 
boots. <G>
 

So, what if anything became of Snits efforts to involve police into 
the dispute you and he have?


-- 
Would I ask you a rhetorical question?

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#133346 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromSteve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
Date2020-07-08 13:02 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<re4g5b$k8a$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133344
On 2020-07-08, Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
> news:re1v5v$5s2$1@dont-email.me Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:00:31 GMT in
> alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
>
>> On 2020-07-07, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 06/07/2020 09:36, Sandman wrote:
>>>> In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.
>>>> 
>>>> [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)
>>>> 
>>>> Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -------- 
>>>>   troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest      
>>>>       0/2 sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   |
>>>>   honest           0/102 run              0/22  | css           
>>>>     0/46  | tilde            0/0 proof            0/31  |
>>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HTTP Response
>>>
>>> Final URL
>>> http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trollcriteria/Lying
>>> Serving IP Address
>>> 94.247.170.170
>>> Status Code
>>> 200
>>> Body Length
>>> 18.59 KB
>>> Body SHA-256
>>> ae124c90bd9fc24a80833eecf5e4a8a0f3bbfe03ea31682d6c26c53d0f51ca81
>>> Headers
>>> connection     Upgrade, Keep-Alive
>>> content-length     19032
>>> content-type     text/html; charset=UTF-8
>>> date     Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:39:15 GMT
>>> keep-alive     timeout=5, max=100
>>> server     Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)
>>> upgrade     h2,h2c
>>> vary     Accept-Encoding
>>> Trackers
>>>
>>> Google Analytics
>>> UA-579308-6 (https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js)
>>> HTML
>>>
>>> Title
>>> usenet
>>> Meta Tags
>>> author     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>> author-email     jonas@eklundh.com
>>> copyright     Jonas Eklundh (Sandman) @2020
>>> creation-time     0.620s
>>> description     lie
>>> generator     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>> generator-contact     jonas@eklundh.com
>>> keywords     Atlas,Innehållsystem,Jonas
>>> Eklundh,TV-tablåer,Spöa Sandman,Skicka vykort,Önskelista,DVD 
>>> samling,Krönikor,Myst,Riven,Uru,Ikoner,Ikon,Icon,MediaMac,Macinto
>>> sh,Mac kort     CSM
>>> title     usenet
>>> viewport     width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0,
>>> maximum-scale=2.0 
>> 
>> 
>> You've done it! You busted Sandman's bot... that underscores some
>> reasons why what virtually everyone who has ever interacted with
>> Snit on usenet has labeled him, a liar, troll worse ;):
>
> I've yet to label him. I've only written the truth concerning him. 
> He's lied about me, several times now, and has attempted on several 
> occasions now to project his own short comings (which is basically 
> being nearly illiterate) on me. Oh, and lately, he makes wild threats 
> of police. He claimed I should ask you about that, as I shake in my 
> boots. <G>
>  
>
> So, what if anything became of Snits efforts to involve police into 
> the dispute you and he have?

There was no client, there was no call. This was a "psyche degree"
attempt by Snit to show he was able to 'back me off'... of a thing I
wasn't doing and hadn't *ever* done.

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#133373 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromDiesel <nobody@haph.org>
Date2020-07-10 05:27 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<XnsABF6FA473290HT1@LK6l8elA9qX7.Oeo53IA54V55.00LsOQR>
In reply to#133346
Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
news:re4g5b$k8a$3@dont-email.me Wed, 08 Jul 2020 13:02:35 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 

> On 2020-07-08, Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
>> news:re1v5v$5s2$1@dont-email.me Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:00:31 GMT in
>> alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
>>
>>> On 2020-07-07, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 06/07/2020 09:36, Sandman wrote:
>>>>> In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> -- -------- 
>>>>>   troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest    
>>>>>    
>>>>>       0/2 sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   |
>>>>>   honest           0/102 run              0/22  | css         
>>>>>    
>>>>>     0/46  | tilde            0/0 proof            0/31  |
>>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTTP Response
>>>>
>>>> Final URL
>>>> http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trollcriteria/Lying
>>>> Serving IP Address
>>>> 94.247.170.170
>>>> Status Code
>>>> 200
>>>> Body Length
>>>> 18.59 KB
>>>> Body SHA-256
>>>> ae124c90bd9fc24a80833eecf5e4a8a0f3bbfe03ea31682d6c26c53d0f51ca81
>>>> Headers
>>>> connection     Upgrade, Keep-Alive
>>>> content-length     19032
>>>> content-type     text/html; charset=UTF-8
>>>> date     Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:39:15 GMT
>>>> keep-alive     timeout=5, max=100
>>>> server     Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)
>>>> upgrade     h2,h2c
>>>> vary     Accept-Encoding
>>>> Trackers
>>>>
>>>> Google Analytics
>>>> UA-579308-6 (https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js)
>>>> HTML
>>>>
>>>> Title
>>>> usenet
>>>> Meta Tags
>>>> author     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>>> author-email     jonas@eklundh.com
>>>> copyright     Jonas Eklundh (Sandman) @2020
>>>> creation-time     0.620s
>>>> description     lie
>>>> generator     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>>> generator-contact     jonas@eklundh.com
>>>> keywords     Atlas,Innehållsystem,Jonas
>>>> Eklundh,TV-tablåer,Spöa Sandman,Skicka vykort,Önskelista,DVD
>>>> samling,Krönikor,Myst,Riven,Uru,Ikoner,Ikon,Icon,MediaMac,Macin
>>>> to sh,Mac kort     CSM
>>>> title     usenet
>>>> viewport     width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0,
>>>> maximum-scale=2.0 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You've done it! You busted Sandman's bot... that underscores
>>> some reasons why what virtually everyone who has ever interacted
>>> with Snit on usenet has labeled him, a liar, troll worse ;):
>>
>> I've yet to label him. I've only written the truth concerning
>> him. He's lied about me, several times now, and has attempted on
>> several occasions now to project his own short comings (which is
>> basically being nearly illiterate) on me. Oh, and lately, he
>> makes wild threats of police. He claimed I should ask you about
>> that, as I shake in my boots. <G>
>>  
>>
>> So, what if anything became of Snits efforts to involve police
>> into the dispute you and he have?
> 
> There was no client, there was no call. This was a "psyche degree"
> attempt by Snit to show he was able to 'back me off'... of a thing
> I wasn't doing and hadn't *ever* done.

So, if I understand your reply correctly.. Snit just tried to totally 
bullshit me into thinking he called the cops on you with some result 
he expected that made you leave him alone or back off in some way 
shape or form. Do I understand you correctly? I don't want any 
possible confusion to have taken place.

 



-- 
"All you need is love, money, broadband, good health, satellite TV, a 
fast car, ......." - The Beatles

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#133379 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromSteve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
Date2020-07-10 14:06 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<re9skk$dm1$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#133373
On 2020-07-10, Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
> news:re4g5b$k8a$3@dont-email.me Wed, 08 Jul 2020 13:02:35 GMT in
> alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
>
>> On 2020-07-08, Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
>>> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
>>> news:re1v5v$5s2$1@dont-email.me Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:00:31 GMT in
>>> alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
>>>
>>>> On 2020-07-07, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 06/07/2020 09:36, Sandman wrote:
>>>>>> In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -- -------- 
>>>>>>   troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest    
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>       0/2 sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   |
>>>>>>   honest           0/102 run              0/22  | css         
>>>>>>    
>>>>>>     0/46  | tilde            0/0 proof            0/31  |
>>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> HTTP Response
>>>>>
>>>>> Final URL
>>>>> http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trollcriteria/Lying
>>>>> Serving IP Address
>>>>> 94.247.170.170
>>>>> Status Code
>>>>> 200
>>>>> Body Length
>>>>> 18.59 KB
>>>>> Body SHA-256
>>>>> ae124c90bd9fc24a80833eecf5e4a8a0f3bbfe03ea31682d6c26c53d0f51ca81
>>>>> Headers
>>>>> connection     Upgrade, Keep-Alive
>>>>> content-length     19032
>>>>> content-type     text/html; charset=UTF-8
>>>>> date     Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:39:15 GMT
>>>>> keep-alive     timeout=5, max=100
>>>>> server     Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)
>>>>> upgrade     h2,h2c
>>>>> vary     Accept-Encoding
>>>>> Trackers
>>>>>
>>>>> Google Analytics
>>>>> UA-579308-6 (https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js)
>>>>> HTML
>>>>>
>>>>> Title
>>>>> usenet
>>>>> Meta Tags
>>>>> author     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>>>> author-email     jonas@eklundh.com
>>>>> copyright     Jonas Eklundh (Sandman) @2020
>>>>> creation-time     0.620s
>>>>> description     lie
>>>>> generator     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>>>> generator-contact     jonas@eklundh.com
>>>>> keywords     Atlas,Innehållsystem,Jonas
>>>>> Eklundh,TV-tablåer,Spöa Sandman,Skicka vykort,Önskelista,DVD
>>>>> samling,Krönikor,Myst,Riven,Uru,Ikoner,Ikon,Icon,MediaMac,Macin
>>>>> to sh,Mac kort     CSM
>>>>> title     usenet
>>>>> viewport     width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0,
>>>>> maximum-scale=2.0 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You've done it! You busted Sandman's bot... that underscores
>>>> some reasons why what virtually everyone who has ever interacted
>>>> with Snit on usenet has labeled him, a liar, troll worse ;):
>>>
>>> I've yet to label him. I've only written the truth concerning
>>> him. He's lied about me, several times now, and has attempted on
>>> several occasions now to project his own short comings (which is
>>> basically being nearly illiterate) on me. Oh, and lately, he
>>> makes wild threats of police. He claimed I should ask you about
>>> that, as I shake in my boots. <G>
>>>  
>>>
>>> So, what if anything became of Snits efforts to involve police
>>> into the dispute you and he have?
>> 
>> There was no client, there was no call. This was a "psyche degree"
>> attempt by Snit to show he was able to 'back me off'... of a thing
>> I wasn't doing and hadn't *ever* done.
>
> So, if I understand your reply correctly.. Snit just tried to totally 
> bullshit me into thinking he called the cops on you with some result 
> he expected that made you leave him alone or back off in some way 
> shape or form. Do I understand you correctly? I don't want any 
> possible confusion to have taken place.

I didn't see him claim to be the one contacting the police here but, in
the past, he worded it so as to suggest he did. When I queried him on it
he made sure to pin that on a "client". I believe he said he'd show some
"evidence" of an email he got from this client, I suggest you take him
up on that offer and see if the client is willing to let anyone look at
the "evidence" of my *alleged* harassment of said client. IMO Snit made
all of this up for the reason I said, he wants readers to believe he's
had some sort of 'power' over me ;)

To clarify, I have never contacted any of Snit's clients, any claim that
I have done so is false, as are most of the claims Snit makes about me.

Why is this lie so important? IMO it's just another in a years long
stretch of them <shrug>. FWIW, you can find posts of me pointing out
inconsistencies in Snit's 'police story' (as you can with most of his
little stories).

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#133432 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromDiesel <nobody@haph.org>
Date2020-07-12 04:27 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<XnsABF8588C6B01HT1@5L62I6YTj3ma9Gx1Hf.mf3rGXeQ9ixnB3C05zGqC1580fREFf6t>
In reply to#133379
Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
news:re9skk$dm1$4@dont-email.me Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:06:13 GMT in
alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 

> On 2020-07-10, Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
>> news:re4g5b$k8a$3@dont-email.me Wed, 08 Jul 2020 13:02:35 GMT in
>> alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
>>
>>> On 2020-07-08, Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
>>>> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
>>>> news:re1v5v$5s2$1@dont-email.me Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:00:31 GMT
>>>> in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
>>>>
>>>>> On 2020-07-07, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 06/07/2020 09:36, Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> -- -- -------- 
>>>>>>>   troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest  
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>       0/2 sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   |
>>>>>>>   honest           0/102 run              0/22  | css       
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>     0/46  | tilde            0/0 proof            0/31  |
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTTP Response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Final URL
>>>>>> http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trollcriteria/Lying
>>>>>> Serving IP Address
>>>>>> 94.247.170.170
>>>>>> Status Code
>>>>>> 200
>>>>>> Body Length
>>>>>> 18.59 KB
>>>>>> Body SHA-256
>>>>>> ae124c90bd9fc24a80833eecf5e4a8a0f3bbfe03ea31682d6c26c53d0f51ca
>>>>>> 81 Headers
>>>>>> connection     Upgrade, Keep-Alive
>>>>>> content-length     19032
>>>>>> content-type     text/html; charset=UTF-8
>>>>>> date     Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:39:15 GMT
>>>>>> keep-alive     timeout=5, max=100
>>>>>> server     Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)
>>>>>> upgrade     h2,h2c
>>>>>> vary     Accept-Encoding
>>>>>> Trackers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Google Analytics
>>>>>> UA-579308-6 (https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js)
>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Title
>>>>>> usenet
>>>>>> Meta Tags
>>>>>> author     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>>>>> author-email     jonas@eklundh.com
>>>>>> copyright     Jonas Eklundh (Sandman) @2020
>>>>>> creation-time     0.620s
>>>>>> description     lie
>>>>>> generator     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>>>>> generator-contact     jonas@eklundh.com
>>>>>> keywords     Atlas,Innehållsystem,Jonas
>>>>>> Eklundh,TV-tablåer,Spöa Sandman,Skicka
>>>>>> vykort,Önskelista,DVD 
>>>>>> samling,Krönikor,Myst,Riven,Uru,Ikoner,Ikon,Icon,MediaMac,Mac
>>>>>> in to sh,Mac kort     CSM
>>>>>> title     usenet
>>>>>> viewport     width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0,
>>>>>> maximum-scale=2.0 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You've done it! You busted Sandman's bot... that underscores
>>>>> some reasons why what virtually everyone who has ever
>>>>> interacted with Snit on usenet has labeled him, a liar, troll
>>>>> worse ;): 
>>>>
>>>> I've yet to label him. I've only written the truth concerning
>>>> him. He's lied about me, several times now, and has attempted
>>>> on several occasions now to project his own short comings
>>>> (which is basically being nearly illiterate) on me. Oh, and
>>>> lately, he makes wild threats of police. He claimed I should
>>>> ask you about that, as I shake in my boots. <G>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> So, what if anything became of Snits efforts to involve police
>>>> into the dispute you and he have?
>>> 
>>> There was no client, there was no call. This was a "psyche
>>> degree" attempt by Snit to show he was able to 'back me off'...
>>> of a thing I wasn't doing and hadn't *ever* done.
>>
>> So, if I understand your reply correctly.. Snit just tried to
>> totally bullshit me into thinking he called the cops on you with
>> some result he expected that made you leave him alone or back off
>> in some way shape or form. Do I understand you correctly? I don't
>> want any possible confusion to have taken place.
> 
> I didn't see him claim to be the one contacting the police here
> but, in the past, he worded it so as to suggest he did. When I
> queried him on it he made sure to pin that on a "client". I
> believe he said he'd show some "evidence" of an email he got from
> this client, I suggest you take him up on that offer and see if
> the client is willing to let anyone look at the "evidence" of my
> *alleged* harassment of said client. IMO Snit made all of this up
> for the reason I said, he wants readers to believe he's had some
> sort of 'power' over me ;) 

No, he didn't directly claim he called anyone - he's inferred it 
though with several replies to me now. That's why I asked if there 
was any truth to his threats of police involvement to bail him out of 
a situation he placed himself into that he can't get himself out of.

Heh, he doesn't even want me to take him up on the offer to show him 
that I'm not BSing him. Did you see how quickly he changed his tune 
when I accepted his nonsense and was going to pencil him in for a pen 
test? :) "Oh, don't you touch me! I'll call the popo!!!" heh, cry me 
a fucking river. Punkass little fuck thinks cops in another state 
scare me... Oh...
 
> To clarify, I have never contacted any of Snit's clients, any
> claim that I have done so is false, as are most of the claims Snit
> makes about me. 

I don't doubt it.
 
> Why is this lie so important? IMO it's just another in a years
> long stretch of them <shrug>. FWIW, you can find posts of me
> pointing out inconsistencies in Snit's 'police story' (as you can
> with most of his little stories).

It's not an important one, I was seeking further clarification mostly 
for myself, because i've already read the other threads where you 
swiss cheesed his claims previously about it.
 



-- 
There are very few personal problems that can't be solved by a 
suitable application of high explosives.

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#133440 — Re: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2020-07-12 06:46 +0000
SubjectRe: Snit digest 454 / 2020-07-06
Message-ID<hmvpt8Fhl24U3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#133432
Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
> news:re9skk$dm1$4@dont-email.me Fri, 10 Jul 2020 14:06:13 GMT in
> alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
> 
>> On 2020-07-10, Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
>>> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
>>> news:re4g5b$k8a$3@dont-email.me Wed, 08 Jul 2020 13:02:35 GMT in
>>> alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> On 2020-07-08, Diesel <nobody@haph.org> wrote:
>>>>> Steve Carroll <"Steve Carroll"@noSPAM.none>
>>>>> news:re1v5v$5s2$1@dont-email.me Tue, 07 Jul 2020 14:00:31 GMT
>>>>> in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2020-07-07, David_B <DavidB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 06/07/2020 09:36, Sandman wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <hmd8obFkccuU2@mid.individual.net>, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [2764] Sandman even was able to fake  IP addresses.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [X] Lying (http://tinyurl.com/ncvfhl2)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Snit summary of meaningless phrases (since 2015-12-09):
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> -- -- -------- 
>>>>>>>> troll            0/404 | lying            0/595 | incest  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 0/2 sex              0/0   | honorable        0/9   |
>>>>>>>> honest           0/102 run              0/22  | css       
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 0/46  | tilde            0/0 proof            0/31  |
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> HTTP Response
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Final URL
>>>>>>> http://usenet.sandman.net/pages/trollcriteria/Lying
>>>>>>> Serving IP Address
>>>>>>> 94.247.170.170
>>>>>>> Status Code
>>>>>>> 200
>>>>>>> Body Length
>>>>>>> 18.59 KB
>>>>>>> Body SHA-256
>>>>>>> ae124c90bd9fc24a80833eecf5e4a8a0f3bbfe03ea31682d6c26c53d0f51ca
>>>>>>> 81 Headers
>>>>>>> connection     Upgrade, Keep-Alive
>>>>>>> content-length     19032
>>>>>>> content-type     text/html; charset=UTF-8
>>>>>>> date     Tue, 07 Jul 2020 07:39:15 GMT
>>>>>>> keep-alive     timeout=5, max=100
>>>>>>> server     Apache/2.4.38 (Debian)
>>>>>>> upgrade     h2,h2c
>>>>>>> vary     Accept-Encoding
>>>>>>> Trackers
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Google Analytics
>>>>>>> UA-579308-6 (https://www.google-analytics.com/analytics.js)
>>>>>>> HTML
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Title
>>>>>>> usenet
>>>>>>> Meta Tags
>>>>>>> author     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>>>>>> author-email     jonas@eklundh.com
>>>>>>> copyright     Jonas Eklundh (Sandman) @2020
>>>>>>> creation-time     0.620s
>>>>>>> description     lie
>>>>>>> generator     Atlas CMS (www.eklundh.com)
>>>>>>> generator-contact     jonas@eklundh.com
>>>>>>> keywords     Atlas,Innehållsystem,Jonas
>>>>>>> Eklundh,TV-tablåer,Spöa Sandman,Skicka
>>>>>>> vykort,Önskelista,DVD 
>>>>>>> samling,Krönikor,Myst,Riven,Uru,Ikoner,Ikon,Icon,MediaMac,Mac
>>>>>>> in to sh,Mac kort     CSM
>>>>>>> title     usenet
>>>>>>> viewport     width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0,
>>>>>>> maximum-scale=2.0 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You've done it! You busted Sandman's bot... that underscores
>>>>>> some reasons why what virtually everyone who has ever
>>>>>> interacted with Snit on usenet has labeled him, a liar, troll
>>>>>> worse ;): 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've yet to label him. I've only written the truth concerning
>>>>> him. He's lied about me, several times now, and has attempted
>>>>> on several occasions now to project his own short comings
>>>>> (which is basically being nearly illiterate) on me. Oh, and
>>>>> lately, he makes wild threats of police. He claimed I should
>>>>> ask you about that, as I shake in my boots. <G>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, what if anything became of Snits efforts to involve police
>>>>> into the dispute you and he have?
>>>> 
>>>> There was no client, there was no call. This was a "psyche
>>>> degree" attempt by Snit to show he was able to 'back me off'...
>>>> of a thing I wasn't doing and hadn't *ever* done.
>>> 
>>> So, if I understand your reply correctly.. Snit just tried to
>>> totally bullshit me into thinking he called the cops on you with
>>> some result he expected that made you leave him alone or back off
>>> in some way shape or form. Do I understand you correctly? I don't
>>> want any possible confusion to have taken place.
>> 
>> I didn't see him claim to be the one contacting the police here
>> but, in the past, he worded it so as to suggest he did. When I
>> queried him on it he made sure to pin that on a "client". I
>> believe he said he'd show some "evidence" of an email he got from
>> this client, I suggest you take him up on that offer and see if
>> the client is willing to let anyone look at the "evidence" of my
>> *alleged* harassment of said client. IMO Snit made all of this up
>> for the reason I said, he wants readers to believe he's had some
>> sort of 'power' over me ;) 
> 
> No, he didn't directly claim he called anyone - he's inferred it 
> though with several replies to me now. That's why I asked if there 
> was any truth to his threats of police involvement to bail him out of 
> a situation he placed himself into that he can't get himself out of.
> 
> Heh, he doesn't even want me to take him up on the offer to show him 
> that I'm not BSing him. Did you see how quickly he changed his tune 
> when I accepted his nonsense and was going to pencil him in for a pen 
> test? :) "Oh, don't you touch me! I'll call the popo!!!" heh, cry me 
> a fucking river. Punkass little fuck thinks cops in another state 
> scare me... Oh...
>  
>> To clarify, I have never contacted any of Snit's clients, any
>> claim that I have done so is false, as are most of the claims Snit
>> makes about me. 
> 
> I don't doubt it.
>  
>> Why is this lie so important? IMO it's just another in a years
>> long stretch of them <shrug>. FWIW, you can find posts of me
>> pointing out inconsistencies in Snit's 'police story' (as you can
>> with most of his little stories).
> 
> It's not an important one, I was seeking further clarification mostly 
> for myself, because i've already read the other threads where you 
> swiss cheesed his claims previously about it.
>  
> 
> 
> 

Remember when you used to deny being used by Carroll as you are here?

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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks
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