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| Started by | Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> |
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| First post | 2019-01-18 12:56 -0500 |
| Last post | 2019-01-19 11:46 -0500 |
| Articles | 18 on this page of 98 — 15 participants |
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Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-18 12:56 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-18 10:11 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-18 10:22 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-18 10:28 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-18 10:30 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-18 20:45 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-18 14:45 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-19 05:02 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-18 13:28 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-18 10:32 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-18 10:20 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-18 10:26 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-18 21:17 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2019-01-18 13:08 -0600
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-18 11:18 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2019-01-18 14:40 -0600
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-19 05:02 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2019-01-19 09:05 +1300
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-19 05:02 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-18 21:56 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2019-01-19 19:37 +1300
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2019-01-19 19:47 +1300
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-18 23:13 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-19 00:52 -0700
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-18 23:54 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-19 15:42 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-19 11:34 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-18 21:17 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2019-01-18 17:14 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-01-18 19:51 -0600
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-18 21:03 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-01-19 18:34 -0600
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2019-01-19 16:17 +1300
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-18 23:14 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-18 20:53 -0700
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2019-01-19 17:04 +1300
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2019-01-19 18:36 -0600
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-20 04:26 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 08:14 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-19 04:26 -0700
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 13:24 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-19 07:31 -0700
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 15:08 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-19 17:18 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 18:29 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-19 11:03 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 19:08 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-19 14:11 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-19 19:35 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 20:02 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-19 20:12 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 20:17 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-20 03:33 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-20 13:16 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-20 17:52 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-20 19:54 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-20 14:57 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-21 00:19 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-21 17:45 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-21 12:58 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-22 04:18 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2019-01-22 12:13 -0600
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-22 21:48 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-23 21:41 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-24 01:09 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-24 16:21 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-20 11:59 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-20 20:28 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-20 13:51 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-20 22:07 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2019-01-20 17:51 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-20 23:37 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? André G. Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2019-01-21 12:47 -0700
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-21 20:51 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2019-01-21 13:27 +1300
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? YK <xxxxx@dialme.com> - 2019-01-20 20:06 -0500
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2019-01-21 14:29 +1300
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-21 17:36 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-01-20 17:09 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-20 17:18 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2019-01-21 18:35 +1300
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-20 22:58 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-19 11:26 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 20:21 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-19 12:25 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 20:46 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-19 12:57 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 22:49 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-19 15:19 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-19 15:44 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 18:34 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2019-01-19 11:03 -0800
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 19:14 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-19 20:06 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-19 20:10 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-20 03:31 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-19 15:44 +0000
Re: Does Anyone Actually Use Siri? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2019-01-19 11:46 -0500
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-21 18:35 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <q23lmu$3e2$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #120891 |
On 2019-01-21 01:18:08 +0000, gtr said: > On 2019-01-21 01:09:56 +0000, Savageduck said: >> On Jan 20, 2019, Your Name wrote >> (in article <q233l6$1q3d$1@gioia.aioe.org>): >> >>> On 2019-01-20 22:51:26 +0000, YK said: >>>> On 1/20/19 5:07 PM, David B. wrote: >>>>> On 20/01/2019 21:51, gtr wrote: >>>>>> On 2019-01-20 20:28:29 +0000, David B. said: >>>>> [....] >>>>>>>>> Which OTHER newsreader do you recommend for use on my iMac? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I use Unision and fall back occasionally to Thoth for special >>>>>>>> circumstances. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, gtr, but I think they are too old to work with Mojave. >>>>>> >>>>>> I use both, I'm on Mojave. >>>>> >>>>> Oh! I stand corrected. :-( Can you show/tell me how I can obtain and >>>>> install one or both of them? >>>> >>>> https://panic.com/blog/the-future-of-unison/ >>>> >>>> Thoth is discontinued, >>> >>> Both are actually discontinued, but they do still work ... at least as >>> far as macOS Mojave. >>> >>> Unison 2.2 can be downloaded form the link you gave. >> >> ...and Unison1.8.1 still works on High Sierra. > > Unison 2.2 has some problems that keeps it from working properly. > Eventually giving up on it, I went back to v2.1.10. No real issues for me using Unison 2.2 in High Sierra. The "biggest" problem is that it sometimes crashes when you try to add someone to the killfile - they still get added and you simply re-open Unison (cancelling the reporting since it's no longer being developed anyway). I don't use binary newsgroups, so I don't know if there are other problems with those. I'm also using free newsservers, so I don't know if there are problems with newsserver logins. >>> You can get Thoth 1.9.12 from, among other places, >>> <https://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html> > > I'm still using 1.9.1 and it works fine. Both Unison and Thoth work > just fine for me monitoring the continuously dwindling drivel in 3 or 4 > dying usenet groups. > >> Then there is Hogwasher. >> <https://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html> I tried Hogwasher and found it to be awful and kludgey, but that was quite a while ago so there may have been a newer, cleaned up version since then.
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 22:58 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <q23qi3$5e6$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #120898 |
On 2019-01-21 05:35:26 +0000, Your Name said: >>> ...and Unison1.8.1 still works on High Sierra. >> >> Unison 2.2 has some problems that keeps it from working properly. >> Eventually giving up on it, I went back to v2.1.10. > > No real issues for me using Unison 2.2 in High Sierra. The "biggest" > problem is that it sometimes crashes when you try to add someone to the > killfile - they still get added and you simply re-open Unison > (cancelling the reporting since it's no longer being developed anyway). > > I don't use binary newsgroups, so I don't know if there are other > problems with those. I'm also using free newsservers, so I don't know > if there are problems with newsserver logins. I once pursued binaries and they both worked fine. I didn't like the crashing, and didn't find 2.2 really added anything. >>>> You can get Thoth 1.9.12 from, among other places, >>>> <https://download.cnet.com/Thoth/3000-2164_4-6733.html> >> >> I'm still using 1.9.1 and it works fine. Both Unison and Thoth work >> just fine for me monitoring the continuously dwindling drivel in 3 or 4 >> dying usenet groups. >> >>> Then there is Hogwasher. >>> <https://www.asar.com/hogwasher.html> > > I tried Hogwasher and found it to be awful and kludgey, but that was > quite a while ago so there may have been a newer, cleaned up version > since then. Same here, but why bother. I don't waste a 20th of the time I once did on usenet.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 11:26 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <q1vtkk$1s4k$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #120779 |
On 2019-01-19 7:08 a.m., David B. wrote: > On 19/01/2019 14:31, André G. Isaak wrote: >> On 2019-01-19 6:24 a.m., David B. wrote: >>> On 19/01/2019 11:26, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>> On 2019-01-19 1:14 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>> On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>>>>>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those >>>>>>> appliances >>>>>>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful >>>>>>> and ends >>>>>>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel >>>>>>> Cutter or >>>>>>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no >>>>>> iDevices. I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually used it. >>>>>> >>>>>> André >>>>> >>>>> A question! (in fun!) >>>>> >>>>> Why is your name shown like this in your message header? >>>>> >>>>> André >>>>> >>>>> At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! >>>> >>>> Presumably because your newsreader is trying to process it as some >>>> legacy codepage rather than as UTF-8. >>>> >>>> André >>> >>> What does it look like in your header on YOUR computer, André? >> >> On my computer it looks like 'André G. Isaak' >> >> André > > Another of these imponderables! > > See here: https://i.imgur.com/FLWiRuu.png > > We both appear to be using Thunderbird, so I don't understand why we're > seeing different things! :-( > Your utter incompetence leaps to mind...
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 20:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <FFL0E.35314$us2.9647@fx30.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120799 |
On 19/01/2019 19:26, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2019-01-19 7:08 a.m., David B. wrote: >> On 19/01/2019 14:31, André G. Isaak wrote: >>> On 2019-01-19 6:24 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>> On 19/01/2019 11:26, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>> On 2019-01-19 1:14 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>> On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>>> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>>>>>>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those >>>>>>>> appliances >>>>>>>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful >>>>>>>> and ends >>>>>>>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel >>>>>>>> Cutter or >>>>>>>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no >>>>>>> iDevices. I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually used it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> André >>>>>> >>>>>> A question! (in fun!) >>>>>> >>>>>> Why is your name shown like this in your message header? >>>>>> >>>>>> André >>>>>> >>>>>> At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! >>>>> >>>>> Presumably because your newsreader is trying to process it as some >>>>> legacy codepage rather than as UTF-8. >>>>> >>>>> André >>>> >>>> What does it look like in your header on YOUR computer, André? >>> >>> On my computer it looks like 'André G. Isaak' >>> >>> André >> >> Another of these imponderables! >> >> See here: https://i.imgur.com/FLWiRuu.png >> >> We both appear to be using Thunderbird, so I don't understand why >> we're seeing different things! :-( >> > > Your utter incompetence leaps to mind... Show me an image of what YOU see in André's message headers. I'll explain just how to do that if you have difficulty. OK? -- David B.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 12:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <q2013d$c4s$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #120808 |
On 2019-01-19 12:21 p.m., David B. wrote: > On 19/01/2019 19:26, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2019-01-19 7:08 a.m., David B. wrote: >>> On 19/01/2019 14:31, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>> On 2019-01-19 6:24 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>> On 19/01/2019 11:26, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>> On 2019-01-19 1:14 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>> On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>>>>>>>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those >>>>>>>>> appliances >>>>>>>>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful >>>>>>>>> and ends >>>>>>>>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel >>>>>>>>> Cutter or >>>>>>>>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no >>>>>>>> iDevices. I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually used >>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> André >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A question! (in fun!) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why is your name shown like this in your message header? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> André >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! >>>>>> >>>>>> Presumably because your newsreader is trying to process it as some >>>>>> legacy codepage rather than as UTF-8. >>>>>> >>>>>> André >>>>> >>>>> What does it look like in your header on YOUR computer, André? >>>> >>>> On my computer it looks like 'André G. Isaak' >>>> >>>> André >>> >>> Another of these imponderables! >>> >>> See here: https://i.imgur.com/FLWiRuu.png >>> >>> We both appear to be using Thunderbird, so I don't understand why >>> we're seeing different things! :-( >>> >> >> Your utter incompetence leaps to mind... > > Show me an image of what YOU see in André's message headers. No. They work fine and I see no reason to accommodate you. > > I'll explain just how to do that if you have difficulty. OK? I don't have any difficulty taking a screenshot, thanks. :-)
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 20:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <O0M0E.608$3G1.606@fx01.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120809 |
On 19/01/2019 20:25, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2019-01-19 12:21 p.m., David B. wrote: >> On 19/01/2019 19:26, Alan Baker wrote: >>> On 2019-01-19 7:08 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>> On 19/01/2019 14:31, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>> On 2019-01-19 6:24 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>> On 19/01/2019 11:26, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>>> On 2019-01-19 1:14 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>>> On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those >>>>>>>>>> appliances >>>>>>>>>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful >>>>>>>>>> and ends >>>>>>>>>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel >>>>>>>>>> Cutter or >>>>>>>>>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no >>>>>>>>> iDevices. I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually >>>>>>>>> used it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> André >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A question! (in fun!) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why is your name shown like this in your message header? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> André >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Presumably because your newsreader is trying to process it as >>>>>>> some legacy codepage rather than as UTF-8. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> André >>>>>> >>>>>> What does it look like in your header on YOUR computer, André? >>>>> >>>>> On my computer it looks like 'André G. Isaak' >>>>> >>>>> André >>>> >>>> Another of these imponderables! >>>> >>>> See here: https://i.imgur.com/FLWiRuu.png >>>> >>>> We both appear to be using Thunderbird, so I don't understand why >>>> we're seeing different things! :-( >>>> >>> >>> Your utter incompetence leaps to mind... >> >> Show me an image of what YOU see in André's message headers. > > No. They work fine and I see no reason to accommodate you. I'd heard elsewhere that you are nothing more than a Troll. So be it. >> I'll explain just how to do that if you have difficulty. OK? > > I don't have any difficulty taking a screenshot, thanks. You most obviously *DO*! When you are sufficiently mature and move up to macOS Mojave you'll find it's REALLY easy! -- David B.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 12:57 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <q20303$l2d$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #120810 |
On 2019-01-19 12:46 p.m., David B. wrote: > On 19/01/2019 20:25, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2019-01-19 12:21 p.m., David B. wrote: >>> On 19/01/2019 19:26, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2019-01-19 7:08 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>> On 19/01/2019 14:31, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>> On 2019-01-19 6:24 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>> On 19/01/2019 11:26, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2019-01-19 1:14 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those >>>>>>>>>>> appliances >>>>>>>>>>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so >>>>>>>>>>> useful and ends >>>>>>>>>>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel >>>>>>>>>>> Cutter or >>>>>>>>>>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no >>>>>>>>>> iDevices. I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually >>>>>>>>>> used it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> André >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A question! (in fun!) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why is your name shown like this in your message header? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> André >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Presumably because your newsreader is trying to process it as >>>>>>>> some legacy codepage rather than as UTF-8. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> André >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What does it look like in your header on YOUR computer, André? >>>>>> >>>>>> On my computer it looks like 'André G. Isaak' >>>>>> >>>>>> André >>>>> >>>>> Another of these imponderables! >>>>> >>>>> See here: https://i.imgur.com/FLWiRuu.png >>>>> >>>>> We both appear to be using Thunderbird, so I don't understand why >>>>> we're seeing different things! :-( >>>>> >>>> >>>> Your utter incompetence leaps to mind... >>> >>> Show me an image of what YOU see in André's message headers. >> >> No. They work fine and I see no reason to accommodate you. > > I'd heard elsewhere that you are nothing more than a Troll. > > So be it. So be it that I won't satisfy the whims of someone EVERYONE HERE says is a troll? You bet. > >>> I'll explain just how to do that if you have difficulty. OK? >> >> I don't have any difficulty taking a screenshot, thanks. > > You most obviously *DO*! Nope. > > When you are sufficiently mature and move up to macOS Mojave you'll find > it's REALLY easy! I know how easy it is: https://www.flickr.com/photos/23487697@N07/32928976398/ Oh... ...look at that. :-)
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 22:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <5QN0E.12574$ox.11024@fx05.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120811 |
On 19/01/2019 20:57, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2019-01-19 12:46 p.m., David B. wrote: [....] >>>> Show me an image of what YOU see in André's message headers. >>> >>> No. They work fine and I see no reason to accommodate you. >> >> I'd heard elsewhere that you are nothing more than a Troll. >> >> So be it. > > So be it that I won't satisfy the whims of someone EVERYONE HERE says is > a troll? > > You bet. > >> >>>> I'll explain just how to do that if you have difficulty. OK? >>> >>> I don't have any difficulty taking a screenshot, thanks. >> >> You most obviously *DO*! > > Nope. Well, you cannot provide a screenshot of the header, can you? >> When you are sufficiently mature and move up to macOS Mojave you'll >> find it's REALLY easy! > > I know how easy it is: > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/23487697@N07/32928976398/ > > Oh... ...look at that. Why yes! You're just a *BOY*! :-D https://www.flickr.com/photos/23487697@N07/26387875811/in/photostream/ You can stop playing dumb now, and demonstrate that there is, or so you say, no 'error' in the message header. -- David B.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 15:19 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <q20bag$1p3h$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #120812 |
On 2019-01-19 2:49 p.m., David B. wrote: > On 19/01/2019 20:57, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2019-01-19 12:46 p.m., David B. wrote: > [....] >>>>> Show me an image of what YOU see in André's message headers. >>>> >>>> No. They work fine and I see no reason to accommodate you. >>> >>> I'd heard elsewhere that you are nothing more than a Troll. >>> >>> So be it. >> >> So be it that I won't satisfy the whims of someone EVERYONE HERE says >> is a troll? >> >> You bet. >> >>> >>>>> I'll explain just how to do that if you have difficulty. OK? >>>> >>>> I don't have any difficulty taking a screenshot, thanks. >>> >>> You most obviously *DO*! >> >> Nope. > > Well, you cannot provide a screenshot of the header, can you? Of course I can. If I can take a screenshot of a window, then I can obviously take a screenshot that includes the headers. > >>> When you are sufficiently mature and move up to macOS Mojave you'll >>> find it's REALLY easy! >> >> I know how easy it is: >> >> https://www.flickr.com/photos/23487697@N07/32928976398/ >> >> Oh... ...look at that. > > Why yes! You're just a *BOY*! :-D > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/23487697@N07/26387875811/in/photostream/ Just because I look better than you did at my age, doesn't make me a boy. :-) > > You can stop playing dumb now, and demonstrate that there is, or so you > say, no 'error' in the message header. Sorry, but no. I'm not here to prove your ignorance: you do that all by yourself. :-)
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 15:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq46hfj.2ks7.g.kreme@Snow.local> |
| In reply to | #120767 |
In message <Z%A0E.41463$7S2.41268@fx08.fr7> David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those appliances >>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful and ends >>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel Cutter or >>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >> >> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no iDevices. >> I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually used it. >> >> André > A question! (in fun!) > Why is your name shown like this in your message header? > André > At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! Because you are using a crapy news reader or you have stupid settings. -- Cecil is made of blood and unfinished leather
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 18:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <55K0E.43070$xn2.12991@fx16.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120783 |
On 19/01/2019 15:44, Lewis wrote: > In message <Z%A0E.41463$7S2.41268@fx08.fr7> David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >>> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those appliances >>>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful and ends >>>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel Cutter or >>>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >>> >>> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no iDevices. >>> I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually used it. >>> >>> André > >> A question! (in fun!) > >> Why is your name shown like this in your message header? > >> André > >> At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! > > Because you are using a crappy news reader or you have stupid settings. Which current newsreader do YOU recommend to use on an Apple iMac with the macOS Mojave operating system? -- David B.
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| From | gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 11:03 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <q1vs9l$8dq$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #120792 |
On 2019-01-19 18:34:41 +0000, David B. said: > On 19/01/2019 15:44, Lewis wrote: >> In message <Z%A0E.41463$7S2.41268@fx08.fr7> David B. <"David >> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>> On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>>>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those appliances >>>>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful and ends >>>>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel Cutter or >>>>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >>>> >>>> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no iDevices. >>>> I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually used it. >>>> >>>> André >> >>> A question! (in fun!) >> >>> Why is your name shown like this in your message header? >> >>> André >> >>> At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! >> >> Because you are using a crappy news reader or you have stupid settings. > > Which current newsreader do YOU recommend to use on an Apple iMac with > the macOS Mojave operating system? Sounds like a great thread to replay...
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 19:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <MGK0E.607$3G1.225@fx01.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120793 |
On 19/01/2019 19:03, gtr wrote: > On 2019-01-19 18:34:41 +0000, David B. said: > >> On 19/01/2019 15:44, Lewis wrote: >>> In message <Z%A0E.41463$7S2.41268@fx08.fr7> David B. <"David >>> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>> On 19/01/2019 03:53, André G. Isaak wrote: >>>>> On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >>>>>> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those >>>>>> appliances >>>>>> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful and >>>>>> ends >>>>>> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel Cutter or >>>>>> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. >>>>> >>>>> I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no iDevices. >>>>> I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually used it. >>>>> >>>>> André >>> >>>> A question! (in fun!) >>> >>>> Why is your name shown like this in your message header? >>> >>>> André >>> >>>> At least, that's how it looks on MY iMac! >>> >>> Because you are using a crappy news reader or you have stupid settings. >> >> Which current newsreader do YOU recommend to use on an Apple iMac with >> the macOS Mojave operating system? > > Sounds like a great thread to replay... Go on - remind me! ;-) -- David B.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 20:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <gahea9Fbo89U8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #120798 |
On 2019-01-19, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > On 19/01/2019 19:03, gtr wrote: >> On 2019-01-19 18:34:41 +0000, David B. said: >>> >>> Which current newsreader do YOU recommend to use on an Apple iMac >>> with the macOS Mojave operating system? >> >> Sounds like a great thread to replay... > > Go on - remind me! ;-) The topic has been discussed many times through the years. None of it needs to be regurgitated now. Go ahead and open Google Groups and start searching. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 20:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <CuL0E.49714$hO1.41489@fx29.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120803 |
On 19/01/2019 20:06, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2019-01-19, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> On 19/01/2019 19:03, gtr wrote: >>> On 2019-01-19 18:34:41 +0000, David B. said: >>>> >>>> Which current newsreader do YOU recommend to use on an Apple iMac >>>> with the macOS Mojave operating system? >>> >>> Sounds like a great thread to replay... >> >> Go on - remind me! ;-) > > The topic has been discussed many times through the years. None of it > needs to be regurgitated now. Go ahead and open Google Groups and start > searching. Mojave has only been available for a matter of MONTHS! -- David B.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 03:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <gai8dbFhuu0U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #120804 |
On 2019-01-19, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > On 19/01/2019 20:06, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2019-01-19, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>> On 19/01/2019 19:03, gtr wrote: >>>> On 2019-01-19 18:34:41 +0000, David B. said: >>>>> >>>>> Which current newsreader do YOU recommend to use on an Apple iMac >>>>> with the macOS Mojave operating system? >>>> >>>> Sounds like a great thread to replay... >>> >>> Go on - remind me! ;-) >> >> The topic has been discussed many times through the years. None of it >> needs to be regurgitated now. Go ahead and open Google Groups and start >> searching. > > Mojave has only been available for a matter of MONTHS! Irrelevant. Start your searches any time you want to learn more. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 15:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnq46he9.2ks7.g.kreme@Snow.local> |
| In reply to | #120755 |
In message <q1u6vt$7mu$2@dont-email.me> André G Isaak <agisaak@gm.invalid> wrote: > On 2019-01-18 10:56 a.m., Ed Norton wrote: >> I mean after the novelty wears off. Seems like one of those appliances >> that you see on late-night TV that you think will be so useful and ends >> up just sitting on your counter never used. Like the Bagel Cutter or >> the Apple Peeler or the Ronco Dehydrator. > I don't recall any period of novelty. I have an iMac and no iDevices. > I've never even turned Siri on let alone actually used it. I had to use siri ion y mac yesterday. I had left my phone upstairs and wanted to create a reminder to do something next week. It worked, once I figured out I needed to put on my headset because that was the active mic. But yeah, that was the first time, I think. -- 'Never say die, master. That's our motto, eh?' I CAN'T SAY IT'S EVER REALLY BEEN MINE. --Hogfather
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| From | Davoud <star@sky.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-19 11:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <190120191146316111%star@sky.net> |
| In reply to | #120722 |
Ed Norton: > I mean after the novelty wears off... No novelty here. I'm an information glutton. I find the utility to be utterly worthless for anything more complex than time-of-day and weather questions (and it fails many weather questions. Ask it for yesterday's high temperature.) One problem I see is lack of initiative on Apple's part. Apple is heavily involved with IBM. Why isn't Siri a front end for "IBM's Watson?" That would be an improvement. Make no mistake, though; Watson is not an "AI." ³AI² is marketing hype, a purposely made myth at best, a hoax at worst. It does not exist if the standard of comparison is Homo sapiens. We often make human intelligence the butt of jokes, but the fact is that as far as we know, we are the only smart things in the Universe. -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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