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| Started by | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| First post | 2019-01-13 17:52 +0000 |
| Last post | 2019-01-29 05:56 -0700 |
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Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 17:52 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-13 13:42 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> - 2019-01-13 19:48 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 19:52 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-13 11:55 -0800
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-13 22:04 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 22:19 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 22:33 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2019-01-13 23:53 +0100
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2019-01-13 18:10 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 22:54 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-13 23:05 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 23:23 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-13 18:27 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 23:32 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-14 02:12 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 07:46 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-14 17:10 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 12:57 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 20:16 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-15 01:28 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 20:41 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-01-13 19:59 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-14 02:22 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 07:43 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-14 17:09 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-01-14 14:28 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 19:58 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-14 20:19 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 20:24 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-15 00:28 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 11:37 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-15 15:50 +0000
It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 17:29 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-15 17:53 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 23:38 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 19:18 -0500
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-16 08:16 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2019-01-16 09:43 -0600
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-17 20:07 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.inwalid> - 2019-01-17 20:34 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-17 20:51 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-17 16:05 -0500
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.inwalid> - 2019-01-17 21:08 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-17 21:15 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.inwalid> - 2019-01-17 21:46 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2019-01-18 13:18 -0600
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-18 19:26 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-01-18 12:41 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-18 20:59 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-01 10:46 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-02-01 08:44 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-01 20:11 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-01 18:36 -0500
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-01 15:48 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-01 23:53 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2019-02-01 20:09 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-02-03 11:47 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-03 20:00 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-02-03 15:32 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 01:02 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-02-03 17:30 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 18:04 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-02-04 13:19 -0500
TROLL post "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> - 2019-02-04 22:47 +0000
Re: TROLL post Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-02-04 19:24 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2019-02-04 16:31 -0800
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-18 00:44 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.inwalid> - 2019-01-18 01:25 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-18 01:40 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-16 00:23 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-16 08:11 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 12:55 -0500
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 18:29 +0000
Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 13:31 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 12:21 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-15 12:35 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 12:54 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-15 13:00 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 13:32 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 13:41 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 09:47 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 17:33 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-15 15:53 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 17:36 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-15 17:42 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 19:07 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-15 15:51 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 17:41 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-15 17:46 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-15 19:11 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 17:10 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 23:09 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 18:27 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-01-14 18:09 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 23:25 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-14 18:28 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2019-01-14 03:38 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2019-01-13 16:02 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-13 16:09 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Panthera Tigris Altaica <northentiger@outlook.com> - 2019-01-15 09:03 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2019-01-15 10:19 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 21:57 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 22:15 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-13 23:02 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2019-01-13 17:54 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-13 23:05 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Wolffan <akwolffan@zoho.com> - 2019-01-13 18:13 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-13 21:29 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Martin Edwards <buzzard554@fastmail.co.uk> - 2019-01-14 07:41 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 07:54 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Bob Campbell <none@none.none> - 2019-01-14 09:25 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 15:29 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> - 2019-01-14 11:16 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Bob Campbell <none@none.none> - 2019-01-15 10:03 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2019-01-14 12:26 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2019-01-14 17:46 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-14 14:26 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2019-01-14 14:09 -0500
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2019-01-14 11:58 -0800
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> - 2019-01-14 20:27 +0000
Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2019-01-14 20:16 +0000
Re: Here's an equation Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident "Alex Hornkohl" <Nope@niente.it> - 2019-01-29 05:56 -0700
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-04 01:02 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <zaM5E.71087$7S2.25287@fx08.fr7> |
| In reply to | #121749 |
On 03/02/2019 23:32, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2019-02-03 12:00 p.m., David B. wrote: >> On 03/02/2019 19:47, Alan Baker wrote: >>> On 2019-02-01 12:11 p.m., David B. wrote: >>>> On 01/02/2019 16:44, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>> On 2019-02-01 2:46 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>> On 18/01/2019 20:59, David B. wrote: >>>> [....] >>>>>>> Tell me, Alan Baker, What action would *YOU* take in response >>>>>>> to this email I've recently received? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-3797961?e=32ee50ad93 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ' Crickets' >>>> >>>>>> Did YOU upgrade YOUR version? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sorry, but I don't want to tell you. >>>> >>>> >>>> That is your prerogative, of course. Some people would no doubt >>>> consider you a bit of a twerp for using an anti-virus software >>>> programme on your Apple computer! >>> >>> Everyone already considers you an asshole. >> >> I can understand your embarrassment. > > What "embarrassement" would that be? You feel a need to run an AV on an Apple Mac. Rather sad. :-( >> Whatever possessed you to install ClamXAV in your Apple computer? > > It's a useful tool. > > You on the other hand are just a tool. Yep - in that I drive you mad! >>>> Can you tell me if the responses I've received here are valid? >>>> >>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/who-are-the-identified-developers.2167908/#post-27054840 >>> >>> >>> >>> I could... >>> >>> ...if I even bothered to click on the link... >>> >>> ...which I didn't. >>> >>> :-) >> >> I didn't REALLY expect you to demonstrate your ignorance in this matter. > > What ignorance have I demonstrated, asshole? That even though you have the added protection of ClamXAV you are STILL frightened to click on a link in this group. >> That would be even more embarrassing that writing down your passwords! What on earth are your children going to think of you, Alan? <shakes head> -- David B.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-02-03 17:30 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <q384jg$1tro$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #121772 |
On 2019-02-03 5:02 p.m., David B. wrote: > On 03/02/2019 23:32, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2019-02-03 12:00 p.m., David B. wrote: >>> On 03/02/2019 19:47, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2019-02-01 12:11 p.m., David B. wrote: >>>>> On 01/02/2019 16:44, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>> On 2019-02-01 2:46 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>> On 18/01/2019 20:59, David B. wrote: >>>>> [....] >>>>>>>> Tell me, Alan Baker, What action would *YOU* take in response >>>>>>>> to this email I've recently received? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-3797961?e=32ee50ad93 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ' Crickets' >>>>> >>>>>>> Did YOU upgrade YOUR version? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, but I don't want to tell you. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> That is your prerogative, of course. Some people would no doubt >>>>> consider you a bit of a twerp for using an anti-virus software >>>>> programme on your Apple computer! >>>> >>>> Everyone already considers you an asshole. >>> >>> I can understand your embarrassment. >> >> What "embarrassement" would that be? > > You feel a need to run an AV on an Apple Mac. Rather sad. :-( Rather sad is your entire life. > >>> Whatever possessed you to install ClamXAV in your Apple computer? >> >> It's a useful tool. >> >> You on the other hand are just a tool. > > Yep - in that I drive you mad! You wish. > >>>>> Can you tell me if the responses I've received here are valid? >>>>> >>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/who-are-the-identified-developers.2167908/#post-27054840 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I could... >>>> >>>> ...if I even bothered to click on the link... >>>> >>>> ...which I didn't. >>>> >>>> :-) >>> >>> I didn't REALLY expect you to demonstrate your ignorance in this matter. >> >> What ignorance have I demonstrated, asshole? > > That even though you have the added protection of ClamXAV you are STILL > frightened to click on a link in this group. I'm not in any way frightened... ...and you were ask to explain the IGNORANCE you claimed > >>> That would be even more embarrassing that writing down your passwords! > > What on earth are your children going to think of you, Alan? <shakes head> We can only hope you haven't spawned.
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-04 18:04 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <m8%5E.28694$dm2.24071@fx22.fr7> |
| In reply to | #121774 |
On 04/02/2019 01:30, Alan Baker wrote: > On 2019-02-03 5:02 p.m., David B. wrote: >> On 03/02/2019 23:32, Alan Baker wrote: >>> On 2019-02-03 12:00 p.m., David B. wrote: >>>> On 03/02/2019 19:47, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>> On 2019-02-01 12:11 p.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>> On 01/02/2019 16:44, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>>> On 2019-02-01 2:46 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>>> On 18/01/2019 20:59, David B. wrote: >>>>>> [....] >>>>>>>>> Tell me, Alan Baker, What action would *YOU* take in response >>>>>>>>> to this email I've recently received? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-3797961?e=32ee50ad93 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ' Crickets' >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did YOU upgrade YOUR version? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, but I don't want to tell you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> That is your prerogative, of course. Some people would no doubt >>>>>> consider you a bit of a twerp for using an anti-virus software >>>>>> programme on your Apple computer! >>>>> >>>>> Everyone already considers you an asshole. >>>> >>>> I can understand your embarrassment. >>> >>> What "embarrassement" would that be? >> >> You feel a need to run an AV on an Apple Mac. Rather sad. :-( > > Rather sad is your entire life. > >> >>>> Whatever possessed you to install ClamXAV in your Apple computer? >>> >>> It's a useful tool. >>> >>> You on the other hand are just a tool. >> >> Yep - in that I drive you mad! > > You wish. > >> >>>>>> Can you tell me if the responses I've received here are valid? >>>>>> >>>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/who-are-the-identified-developers.2167908/#post-27054840 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I could... >>>>> >>>>> ...if I even bothered to click on the link... >>>>> >>>>> ...which I didn't. >>>>> >>>>> :-) >>>> >>>> I didn't REALLY expect you to demonstrate your ignorance in this >>>> matter. >>> >>> What ignorance have I demonstrated, asshole? >> >> That even though you have the added protection of ClamXAV you are >> STILL frightened to click on a link in this group. > > I'm not in any way frightened... > > ...and you were ask to explain the IGNORANCE you claimed You write down your passwords. Will that do? And you won't follow links during a 'discussion'. >>>> That would be even more embarrassing that writing down your passwords! >> >> What on earth are your children going to think of you, Alan? <shakes >> head> > > We can only hope you haven't spawned. Dear Alan "So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be put at risk even in a hundred battles. If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose. If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War#Quotations HTH -- David B.
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| From | Ed Norton <norton@nowhere.com> |
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| Date | 2019-02-04 13:19 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <0001HW.D87DEC5F09EC425EB02919BF@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #121801 |
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 13:04:00 -0500, David B. wrote (in article <m8%5E.28694$dm2.24071@fx22.fr7>): > On 04/02/2019 01:30, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2019-02-03 5:02 p.m., David B. wrote: >>> On 03/02/2019 23:32, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2019-02-03 12:00 p.m., David B. wrote: >>>>> On 03/02/2019 19:47, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>> On 2019-02-01 12:11 p.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>> On 01/02/2019 16:44, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2019-02-01 2:46 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2019 20:59, David B. wrote: >>>>>>> [....] >>>>>>>>>> Tell me, Alan Baker, What action would *YOU* take in response >>>>>>>>>> to this email I've recently received? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxa >>>>>>>>>> v-3797961?e=32ee50ad93 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ' Crickets' >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did YOU upgrade YOUR version? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, but I don't want to tell you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is your prerogative, of course. Some people would no doubt >>>>>>> consider you a bit of a twerp for using an anti-virus software >>>>>>> programme on your Apple computer! >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone already considers you an asshole. >>>>> >>>>> I can understand your embarrassment. >>>> >>>> What "embarrassement" would that be? >>> >>> You feel a need to run an AV on an Apple Mac. Rather sad. :-( >> >> Rather sad is your entire life. >> >>> >>>>> Whatever possessed you to install ClamXAV in your Apple computer? >>>> >>>> It's a useful tool. >>>> >>>> You on the other hand are just a tool. >>> >>> Yep - in that I drive you mad! >> >> You wish. >> >>> >>>>>>> Can you tell me if the responses I've received here are valid? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/who-are-the-identified-developers. >>>>>>> 2167908/#post-27054840 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I could... >>>>>> >>>>>> ...if I even bothered to click on the link... >>>>>> >>>>>> ...which I didn't. >>>>>> >>>>>>> -) >>>>> >>>>> I didn't REALLY expect you to demonstrate your ignorance in this >>>>> matter. >>>> >>>> What ignorance have I demonstrated, asshole? >>> >>> That even though you have the added protection of ClamXAV you are >>> STILL frightened to click on a link in this group. >> >> I'm not in any way frightened... >> >> ...and you were ask to explain the IGNORANCE you claimed > > You write down your passwords. Will that do? > > And you won't follow links during a 'discussion'. > >>>>> That would be even more embarrassing that writing down your passwords! >>> >>> What on earth are your children going to think of you, Alan? <shakes >>> head> >> >> We can only hope you haven't spawned. > > Dear Alan > > "So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will > not be put at risk even in a hundred battles. > > If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose. > > If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger > yourself." > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War#Quotations > > HTH "If everyone is your enemy, you are probably doing something wrong." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Norton HTH -- Ed
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-02-04 22:47 +0000 |
| Subject | TROLL post |
| Message-ID | <Zh36E.46067$Hn2.21553@fx19.fr7> |
| In reply to | #121805 |
On 04/02/2019 18:19, Ed Norton is trolling! > On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 13:04:00 -0500, David B. wrote > (in article <m8%5E.28694$dm2.24071@fx22.fr7>): [....] >> Dear Alan >> >> "So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will >> not be put at risk even in a hundred battles. >> >> If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose. >> >> If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger >> yourself." >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War#Quotations >> >> HTH > > "If everyone is your enemy, you are probably doing something wrong." > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Norton > > HTH Good Lord! A *Troll* post! -- David B.
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-02-04 19:24 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: TROLL post |
| Message-ID | <q3avl5$jkh$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #121810 |
On 2019-02-04 2:47 p.m., David B. trolled: > On 04/02/2019 18:19, Ed Norton is making statements I can't refute > >> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 13:04:00 -0500, David B. wrote >> (in article <m8%5E.28694$dm2.24071@fx22.fr7>): > [....] >>> Dear Alan >>> >>> "So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will >>> not be put at risk even in a hundred battles. >>> >>> If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may >>> lose. >>> >>> If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger >>> yourself." >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_War#Quotations >>> >>> HTH >> >> "If everyone is your enemy, you are probably doing something wrong." >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Norton >> >> HTH > > Good Lord! A *Troll* post! > So you post an irrelevant quote.. ..then he post one that describes you perfectly... ...and he's the troll? LOL!
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| From | Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> |
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| Date | 2019-02-04 16:31 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <q3alg3$199i$5@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #121801 |
On 2019-02-04 10:04 a.m., David B. wrote: > On 04/02/2019 01:30, Alan Baker wrote: >> On 2019-02-03 5:02 p.m., David B. wrote: >>> On 03/02/2019 23:32, Alan Baker wrote: >>>> On 2019-02-03 12:00 p.m., David B. wrote: >>>>> On 03/02/2019 19:47, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>> On 2019-02-01 12:11 p.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>> On 01/02/2019 16:44, Alan Baker wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2019-02-01 2:46 a.m., David B. wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2019 20:59, David B. wrote: >>>>>>> [....] >>>>>>>>>> Tell me, Alan Baker, What action would *YOU* take in response >>>>>>>>>> to this email I've recently received? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://mailchi.mp/clamxav/critical-service-information-about-clamxav-3797961?e=32ee50ad93 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ' Crickets' >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did YOU upgrade YOUR version? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, but I don't want to tell you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That is your prerogative, of course. Some people would no doubt >>>>>>> consider you a bit of a twerp for using an anti-virus software >>>>>>> programme on your Apple computer! >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone already considers you an asshole. >>>>> >>>>> I can understand your embarrassment. >>>> >>>> What "embarrassement" would that be? >>> >>> You feel a need to run an AV on an Apple Mac. Rather sad. :-( >> >> Rather sad is your entire life. >> >>> >>>>> Whatever possessed you to install ClamXAV in your Apple computer? >>>> >>>> It's a useful tool. >>>> >>>> You on the other hand are just a tool. >>> >>> Yep - in that I drive you mad! >> >> You wish. >> >>> >>>>>>> Can you tell me if the responses I've received here are valid? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/who-are-the-identified-developers.2167908/#post-27054840 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I could... >>>>>> >>>>>> ...if I even bothered to click on the link... >>>>>> >>>>>> ...which I didn't. >>>>>> >>>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> I didn't REALLY expect you to demonstrate your ignorance in this >>>>> matter. >>>> >>>> What ignorance have I demonstrated, asshole? >>> >>> That even though you have the added protection of ClamXAV you are >>> STILL frightened to click on a link in this group. >> >> I'm not in any way frightened... >> >> ...and you were ask to explain the IGNORANCE you claimed > > You write down your passwords. Will that do? Where have I ever said that I write down my passwords? > > And you won't follow links during a 'discussion'. Yes. Won't. But that is not from ignorance, but rather from knowledge of the source of the link. > >>>>> That would be even more embarrassing that writing down your passwords! >>> >>> What on earth are your children going to think of you, Alan? <shakes >>> head> >> >> We can only hope you haven't spawned. > > Dear... <irrelevant drivel snipped>
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-18 00:44 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <ak90E.38297$7S2.36047@fx08.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120698 |
On 17/01/2019 20:34, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: > David B. STALKER wrote: > >> On 16/01/2019 15:43, Char Jackson wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 08:16:47 +0000, "David B." <"David >>> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>> On 16/01/2019 00:18, nospam wrote: >>>>> In article <%9u%D.76979$Yn2.70847@fx26.fr7>, David B. < >>>>> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm certainly no longer as sharp as once I was >>>>> >>>>> you were never sharp. >>>> >>>> I did spend two years flying fast jets during my *flying* training! >>>> ;-) >> >> I apologise for my typo! >> >>> I can't say that I blame you for always leaving out the part about how >>> it ended. I'm referring to the note in your official file, "Danger to >>> himself and to others". >> >> There was *NO* such note on ANY file - official or otherwise. NEVER! > > Why not say exactly what it DOES say? Remember, you published it! > > Suspended from > Flying Training owing to > > 'Failure to Progress > in Airwork' > Flying Badge Removed > /signature/ [scrawl] > President, Naval Aircrew Advisory Board > Date: 18th November 1969 > > /stamp/ NAVAL AIRCREW > 18 NOV 1969 > ADVISORY BOARD Of course I remember telling you. It was during an endeavour to satisfy you that I *DO* tell the truth and could prove what I said with facts, not hearsay. >> If you persist in telling lies, Char Jackson, you will lose ALL >> credibility. > > <splorf!> That's funny, coming from you who lost all of your credibility > well over a decade ago, lying the whole time. That's simply untrue. Everything here is factual and was true at that particular time:- http://web.archive.org/web/20070225041035/http://www.annexcafe.com:80/registry/viewregistry.cfm?regid=1400&gohistory=1 Which 'lie' do you wish to further explore? -- David B.
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| From | "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous@example.inwalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-18 01:25 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <q1r9u4$ale$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #120705 |
David B. STALKER wrote: > On 17/01/2019 20:34, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> Why not say exactly what it DOES say? Remember, you published it! >> >> Suspended from Flying Training owing to >> >> 'Failure to Progress >> in Airwork' >> Flying Badge Removed >> /signature/ [scrawl] >> President, Naval Aircrew Advisory Board Date: 18th November 1969 >> >> /stamp/ NAVAL AIRCREW >> 18 NOV 1969 >> ADVISORY BOARD > > Of course I remember telling you. You did not *tell* me; you published images of your original *flight logs* > It was during an endeavour to satisfy > you that I *DO* tell the truth and could prove what I said with facts, > not hearsay. ..yet in recent years you never tell people you washed out. >>> If you persist in telling lies, Char Jackson, you will lose ALL >>> credibility. >> >> <splorf!> That's funny, coming from you who lost all of your >> credibility well over a decade ago, lying the whole time. > > That's simply untrue. Everything here is factual and was true at that > particular time:- > > http://web.archive.org/ .. one of many nyms .. "Does BoaterDaveTJ drink? Yes" LOL What's the 190 lbs up to now? 250 or better, I'd guess. > Which 'lie' do you wish to further explore? The ones you tell about people you meet on the Internet after they are no longer useful in helping you stalk. -- -bts
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-18 01:40 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <j8a0E.25466$Xl2.21093@fx20.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120707 |
On 18/01/2019 01:25, Beauregard T. Shagnasty "*Leave me alone*" whined > David B. wrote: > >> On 17/01/2019 20:34, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >>> Why not say exactly what it DOES say? Remember, you published it! >>> >>> Suspended from Flying Training owing to >>> >>> 'Failure to Progress >>> in Airwork' >>> Flying Badge Removed >>> /signature/ [scrawl] >>> President, Naval Aircrew Advisory Board Date: 18th November 1969 >>> >>> /stamp/ NAVAL AIRCREW >>> 18 NOV 1969 >>> ADVISORY BOARD >> >> Of course I remember telling you. > > You did not *tell* me; you published images of your original *flight logs* Sadly, you're correct. I was TRYING to have a civil conversation with you. >> It was during an endeavour to satisfy >> you that I *DO* tell the truth and could prove what I said with facts, >> not hearsay. > > ..yet in recent years you never tell people you washed out. Why should I? I retrained and qualified as an Air Traffic Control Officer. >>>> If you persist in telling lies, Char Jackson, you will lose ALL >>>> credibility. >>> >>> <splorf!> That's funny, coming from you who lost all of your >>> credibility well over a decade ago, lying the whole time. >> >> That's simply untrue. Everything here is factual and was true at that >> particular time:- >> >> http://web.archive.org/ .. one of many nyms .. > > "Does BoaterDaveTJ drink? Yes" LOL Not any more. Last drink was on 21st March 2018. > What's the 190 lbs up to now? 250 or better, I'd guess. Not quite (238) and slowly reducing. >> Which 'lie' do you wish to further explore? > > The ones you tell about people you meet on the Internet after they are no > longer useful in helping you stalk. Cite an example for discussion. -- David B.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-16 00:23 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <ga7brcF6307U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #120647 |
On 2019-01-15, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > On 15/01/2019 17:53, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >> Your Safe Boot problem is solved. It is normal that you need to disable >> the firmware password before booting into safe mode. So you don't need >> to spend any more time on this. > > You have no idea how pleased I am about this! :-D > >> Don't forget to re-enable the firmware password when you are done with >> Safe Boot. > > I was going to ask you if you recommended that I do so. > > Thanks for the reminder. I've now re-enabled the firmware password. I recommend all Mac users do the following: If you set a firmware password on your Mac, then the computer will refuse to start up from any internal or external storage device other than the startup disk you have selected in the System Preferences > Startup Disk preference pane. This means a would-be thief won't be able to start up the computer with any other storage volume - even if they take the startup drive out and replace it with another one. <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204455> If you enable full-disk encryption on the startup disk by enabling System Preferences > Security > FileVault, then a would-be thief won't be able to boot from or access the encrypted data on the startup disk - even if they remove it from the computer and put it into another computer or enclosure. Your data is safely encrypted. <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204837> And if you enable Find My Mac in System Preferences > iCloud > Find My Mac, then if your Mac is lost or stolen, you'll be able to remotely lock it, track its physical location, display a custom message on it, play an alarm sound on it, and even erase the contents of the startup drive remotely from any iOS device or any computer with a web browser. In fact you can do all of that ahead of time, and iCloud will dutifully wait for the computer to connect to the internet and ping the iCloud service, whenever that happens to be. <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205362#findmymac> I configure all of my Macs this way. And I've tested their setups by logging into the iCloud web site (http://iCloud.com) or the Find My iPhone app on any iOS device, and using it to activate those features. I can do it all remotely from the Find My Phone app on any iOS device or on any web browser on any computer, wherever I happen to be at the time. I'm happy to report it works extremely well. I rest fairly easy knowing if my Macs are ever lost or stolen, not only is my data very safe from prying eyes, but anyone trying to use those computers is in for a rude awakening: they won't be able to do much with them at all. Highly recommended. > Should someone at Apple Support be contacted to hopefully spread the > word about this to their staff? If you still have contact info for the Apple Support representative(s) you talk with about not being able to Safe Boot, they probably would benefit from learning why you couldn't do it. It probably just didn't occur to them to ask whether you had a firmware password set. > In all the time I've spent on the ASC during the last 10 years, I never > heard any mention of this protection preventing a computer starting in > Safe Boot mode. Not once! That's interesting. The firmware password facility is meant to prevent the computer from booting to anything but the volume specified in System Preferences > Startup Disk. So it seems like common sense that it would prevent someone from booting into Safe Mode as well. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-16 08:11 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <MGB%D.3992$oQ1.3589@fx03.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120649 |
On 16/01/2019 00:23, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2019-01-15, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> On 15/01/2019 17:53, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> >>> Your Safe Boot problem is solved. It is normal that you need to disable >>> the firmware password before booting into safe mode. So you don't need >>> to spend any more time on this. >> >> You have no idea how pleased I am about this! :-D >> >>> Don't forget to re-enable the firmware password when you are done with >>> Safe Boot. >> >> I was going to ask you if you recommended that I do so. >> >> Thanks for the reminder. I've now re-enabled the firmware password. > > I recommend all Mac users do the following: > > If you set a firmware password on your Mac, then the computer will > refuse to start up from any internal or external storage device other > than the startup disk you have selected in the System Preferences > > Startup Disk preference pane. This means a would-be thief won't be able > to start up the computer with any other storage volume - even if they > take the startup drive out and replace it with another one. > > <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204455> > > If you enable full-disk encryption on the startup disk by enabling > System Preferences > Security > FileVault, then a would-be thief won't > be able to boot from or access the encrypted data on the startup disk - > even if they remove it from the computer and put it into another > computer or enclosure. Your data is safely encrypted. > > <https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204837> > > And if you enable Find My Mac in System Preferences > iCloud > Find My > Mac, then if your Mac is lost or stolen, you'll be able to remotely lock > it, track its physical location, display a custom message on it, play an > alarm sound on it, and even erase the contents of the startup drive > remotely from any iOS device or any computer with a web browser. In fact > you can do all of that ahead of time, and iCloud will dutifully wait for > the computer to connect to the internet and ping the iCloud service, > whenever that happens to be. > > <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT205362#findmymac> > > I configure all of my Macs this way. And I've tested their setups by > logging into the iCloud web site (http://iCloud.com) or the Find My > iPhone app on any iOS device, and using it to activate those features. I > can do it all remotely from the Find My Phone app on any iOS device or > on any web browser on any computer, wherever I happen to be at the time. > I'm happy to report it works extremely well. I rest fairly easy knowing > if my Macs are ever lost or stolen, not only is my data very safe from > prying eyes, but anyone trying to use those computers is in for a rude > awakening: they won't be able to do much with them at all. Highly > recommended. > >> Should someone at Apple Support be contacted to hopefully spread the >> word about this to their staff? > > If you still have contact info for the Apple Support representative(s) > you talk with about not being able to Safe Boot, they probably would > benefit from learning why you couldn't do it. It probably just didn't > occur to them to ask whether you had a firmware password set. > >> In all the time I've spent on the ASC during the last 10 years, I never >> heard any mention of this protection preventing a computer starting in >> Safe Boot mode. Not once! > > That's interesting. The firmware password facility is meant to prevent > the computer from booting to anything but the volume specified in System > Preferences > Startup Disk. So it seems like common sense that it would > prevent someone from booting into Safe Mode as well. Thanks so much for all that helpful information. I'll check to make sure that I've actually done all those things! -- David B.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 12:55 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <150120191255123578%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #120623 |
In article <WLo%D.33602$us2.12429@fx30.fr7>, David B. < B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > > Have you time to read the thread? here we go again
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 18:29 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <oEp%D.11509$Hn2.10711@fx19.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120630 |
On 15/01/2019 17:55, nospam wrote: > In article <WLo%D.33602$us2.12429@fx30.fr7>, David B. < > B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> >> Have you time to read the thread? > > here we go again *Shame on you* for being unable to provide the solution. :-( -- David B.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 13:31 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: It's easy - when you know how! (was - Re: Here's The Scientific Reason Incompetent People Are Often So Confident) |
| Message-ID | <150120191331203691%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #120638 |
In article <oEp%D.11509$Hn2.10711@fx19.fr7>, David B. < B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> Have you time to read the thread? > > > > here we go again > > *Shame on you* for being unable to provide the solution. :-( the only solution is for you to foad.
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 12:21 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sfk%D.47979$hO1.18668@fx29.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120597 |
On 15/01/2019 00:28, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2019-01-14, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> On 14/01/2019 20:19, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2019-01-14, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>> On 14/01/2019 19:28, Paul wrote: >>>>> Jolly Roger wrote: >>>>>> On 2019-01-14, David B. <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On 14/01/2019 00:59, Paul wrote: >>>>>>>> David B. wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *DO* you know why my iMac will not start in Safe Boot mode? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What would YOU recommend that I do to correct matters? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>> Did you try the help page ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201262 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes >>>>>> >>>>>> If so, then what was the output you got from the nvram commands on the >>>>>> page? >>>>> >>>>> (snip) >>>> >>>> I'm somewhat out of my depth now, but trust you to provide helpful >>>> advice, Paul >>> >>> So you've decided not to answer *my* question? >>> >>> Do you need me to repeat it? >> >> Does my response to Paul not suffice? > > Does your response to Paul give the output you got from the nvram > commands on the Apple Safe Mode support page? Doesn't appear to be > there... Do you want people to pull your teeth just to help you? No. It's REALLY difficult to know who one can trust. Can I trust YOU, 'Jolly Roger'? -- David B.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 12:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <150120191235092568%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #120609 |
In article <sfk%D.47979$hO1.18668@fx29.fr7>, David B. < B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >On 15/01/2019 00:28, Jolly Roger wrote: >> Does your response to Paul give the output you got from the nvram >> commands on the Apple Safe Mode support page? Doesn't appear to be >> there... Do you want people to pull your teeth just to help you? > >No. Why not? You've been asked for it often enough. See, most people who have a problem and post on a tech newsgroup for help, are then asked to provide this and this information. They provide it, and people then proceed to help. The world then moves on. You, for reasons best known to yourself, just keep coming up with bollocks instead of providing the requested info. >It's REALLY difficult to know who one can trust. No it isn't. >Can I trust YOU, 'Jolly Roger'? You should be able to figure that out for yourself. -- If socialism helps the poor, why are the poor in socialist countries so much poorer than the poor in capitalist countries? Mark
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 12:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <aKk%D.29363$Tk2.24451@fx13.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120610 |
On 15/01/2019 12:35, Tim Streater wrote: > In article <sfk%D.47979$hO1.18668@fx29.fr7>, David B. < > B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> On 15/01/2019 00:28, Jolly Roger wrote: > >>> Does your response to Paul give the output you got from the nvram >>> commands on the Apple Safe Mode support page? Doesn't appear to be >>> there... Do you want people to pull your teeth just to help you? >> >> No. > > Why not? You've been asked for it often enough. I've posted my finding this morning. Do YOU understand the result? > See, most people who have a problem and post on a tech newsgroup for > help, are then asked to provide this and this information. They provide > it, and people then proceed to help. The world then moves on. I'm not QUITE as naive as once I was! ;-) > You, for reasons best known to yourself, just keep coming up with > bollocks instead of providing the requested info. > >> It's REALLY difficult to know who one can trust. > > No it isn't. Sadly, yes it is. :-( >> Can I trust YOU, 'Jolly Roger'? > > You should be able to figure that out for yourself. I have no idea at all who the pirate may be; have you? Flying such a flag is a warning to us ex-navy folk! I've just been looking at this facility in the Apple App Store. https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/totalav-safe-site/id1403850681?mt=12 Is it a facility which you use? If not, WHY not? -- David B.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 13:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <150120191300022151%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #120611 |
In article <aKk%D.29363$Tk2.24451@fx13.fr7>, David B. < B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >On 15/01/2019 12:35, Tim Streater wrote: >> In article <sfk%D.47979$hO1.18668@fx29.fr7>, David B. < >> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >> >>> On 15/01/2019 00:28, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >>>> Does your response to Paul give the output you got from the nvram >>>> commands on the Apple Safe Mode support page? Doesn't appear to be >>>> there... Do you want people to pull your teeth just to help you? >>> >>> No. >> >> Why not? You've been asked for it often enough. > >I've posted my finding this morning. Do YOU understand the result? I haven't looked, I'm not going to look, and I most likely wouldn't understand it if I did look. What of it? >> See, most people who have a problem and post on a tech newsgroup for >> help, are then asked to provide this and this information. They provide >> it, and people then proceed to help. The world then moves on. > >I'm not QUITE as naive as once I was! ;-) > >> You, for reasons best known to yourself, just keep coming up with >> bollocks instead of providing the requested info. >> >>> It's REALLY difficult to know who one can trust. >> >> No it isn't. > >Sadly, yes it is. :-( No it isn't. (And I know the pantomime season is over). > >>> Can I trust YOU, 'Jolly Roger'? >> >> You should be able to figure that out for yourself. > >I have no idea at all who the pirate may be; have you? Flying such a >flag is a warning to us ex-navy folk! What pirate? If you can't lurk for a while on this or indeed any ng, see people's posts, and figure out their character to some extent from their interactions, then you need to seek help. That, after all, is what everyone else does. >I've just been looking at this facility in the Apple App Store. Why? -- "Hard" and "Soft" Brexit are code words for Leaving or Staying in the EU, rather than for the terms of our departure. Jacob Rees-Mogg MP
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| From | "David B." <"David B"@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 13:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Shl%D.33319$us2.30452@fx30.fr7> |
| In reply to | #120612 |
On 15/01/2019 13:00, Tim Streater wrote: > In article <aKk%D.29363$Tk2.24451@fx13.fr7>, David B. < > B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: > >> On 15/01/2019 12:35, Tim Streater wrote: >>> In article <sfk%D.47979$hO1.18668@fx29.fr7>, David B. < >>> B"@nomail.afraid.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 15/01/2019 00:28, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> >>>>> Does your response to Paul give the output you got from the nvram >>>>> commands on the Apple Safe Mode support page? Doesn't appear to be >>>>> there... Do you want people to pull your teeth just to help you? >>>> >>>> No. >>> >>> Why not? You've been asked for it often enough. >> >> I've posted my finding this morning. Do YOU understand the result? > > I haven't looked, I'm not going to look, and I most likely wouldn't > understand it if I did look. What of it? > >>> See, most people who have a problem and post on a tech newsgroup for >>> help, are then asked to provide this and this information. They provide >>> it, and people then proceed to help. The world then moves on. >> >> I'm not QUITE as naive as once I was! ;-) >> >>> You, for reasons best known to yourself, just keep coming up with >>> bollocks instead of providing the requested info. >>> >>>> It's REALLY difficult to know who one can trust. >>> >>> No it isn't. >> >> Sadly, yes it is. :-( > > No it isn't. (And I know the pantomime season is over). >> >>>> Can I trust YOU, 'Jolly Roger'? >>> >>> You should be able to figure that out for yourself. >> >> I have no idea at all who the pirate may be; have you? Flying such a >> flag is a warning to us ex-navy folk! > > What pirate? If you can't lurk for a while on this or indeed any ng, > see people's posts, and figure out their character to some extent from > their interactions, then you need to seek help. That, after all, is > what everyone else does. > >> I've just been looking at this facility in the Apple App Store. > > Why? https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155151580724570&set=a.10150536713179570&type=3&theater -- David B.
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