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Downgrading the OS

Started bycsampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson)
First post2018-06-09 13:24 -0700
Last post2018-06-17 15:41 +0000
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  Downgrading the OS csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-09 13:24 -0700
    Re: Downgrading the OS ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-09 15:41 -0500
    Re: Downgrading the OS nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-09 16:47 -0400
      Re: Downgrading the OS "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-06-10 18:56 +0000
      Re: Downgrading the OS csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-11 13:46 -0700
    Re: Downgrading the OS JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-09 17:28 -0400
      Re: Downgrading the OS Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-10 10:40 +1200
    Re: Downgrading the OS Király <ggrandish@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:04 -0700
      Re: Downgrading the OS nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-11 18:07 -0400
        Re: Downgrading the OS Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 07:48 -0700
        Re: Downgrading the OS csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-17 05:03 -0700
          Re: Downgrading the OS nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-17 11:26 -0400
            Re: Downgrading the OS Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-17 16:07 +0000
          Re: Downgrading the OS Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-17 15:44 +0000
            Re: Downgrading the OS Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-17 16:08 +0000
          Re: Downgrading the OS Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-17 17:27 +0000
            Re: Downgrading the OS dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-18 12:12 +1200
              Re: Downgrading the OS ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-06-17 19:43 -0500
                Re: Downgrading the OS nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-17 20:57 -0400
                Re: Downgrading the OS Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2018-06-18 17:36 -0700
                Re: Downgrading the OS Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-18 18:42 -0700
          Re: Downgrading the OS JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-06-17 15:11 -0400
      Re: Downgrading the OS Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 22:44 -0700
      Re: Downgrading the OS Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-12 01:51 -0700
    Re: Downgrading the OS Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-17 15:41 +0000

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#117299

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-18 18:42 -0700
Message-ID<48fe7b15-e7b4-4c00-bdb2-b236130d5d37@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#117283
On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 5:44:00 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:
> David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
> ...
> > Internet Recovery might give you Mountain Lion but that depends on a
> > detail I haven't mentioned yet: it is supposed to download the original
> > OS which came with your particular Mac.
> 
> > For a Mid 2012 15-inch MacBook Pro, that might be 10.7 or 10.8; for the
> > 13-inch model it might be any of 10.7 through 10.11.
> 
> Hm. I thought Apple's Internet Recovery always give you the (new/lat)est
> supported version.
> 
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In article <328ae2c8-12e1-4830-b455-53187a4bc309@googlegroups.com>, Steve 
Carroll wrote:

> > Sandman:
> > <http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood> It doesn't show what
> > interval the script is run at, but how he has used it, at least in
> > the beginning. I stopped logging it this way back in may :)
> 
> From what I've personally looked at, it looks like it's all over the
> map.

Yes, with obvious scripted sessions. Not saying some of it isn't manual. 

> > Sandman:
> > Maybe I'll update it :)
> 
> What would it take to do that?

For "later" to occur!

<http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/postingtimes/Snit/Flooding>

That's a running tally of Snit's non-sock posts and his flooding during the 
last month. It'll update automatically and always show the last two months. 


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#117276

FromJF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Date2018-06-17 15:11 -0400
Message-ID<AnyVC.343909$br4.255595@fx34.iad>
In reply to#117257
How much fee space do you have on your disk?

Snow Leopard need 5GB of disk to install.

Snow Leoard does not have recovery partition, so this solves one
coexistence issue.


So, the easier solution :

use Disk Utility to carve a new disk partition on your sytstem disk that
is 5GB in size.

Boot from the Snow Leopard CD, install it on that partition.

You get a vanilla system. Create a account for yourself. Make sure the
GID and UID are the same as your normal system

Go into terminal, and do ls -l -n  (-l as in lima)

You'll see your files in home directory in this format:

drwx------@  110 501  20        3740 Jun  7 00:21 Desktop

The 501 is your UID and 20 is the GID.  (They are the default)  So when
you create new user on Snow Leopard, make sure you use same as on your
current system.


Once logged in, your other disks (including your more modern system
disk) will be accessible and since you have same GID/UID, the files will
be accessible to you. However the "home" in Snow Leopard will be a
generic empty one, so you have to navigate to the other disk to find
your "real" files.

You can then boot eother Snow Leopard or the more modern version with
special key when you power up to cause a selection of bootable disks to
be presented. (or use system preferences to change your boot drive and
reboot).


Note: If you wish to upgrade Snow Leopard to more modern version which
has recovery partitions, it gets touchy because your more recent version
is already installed. You may wish to rename the existing (cuirrent)
recovery partition to "chocolate".  Upgrade Snow Leopard to say
Yosemite, boot on your current system, delete the recovery partition
created by that upgrade, and rename Chocolate back to what it was before.

If you are currently on High Sierra, it has no recovery partition at the
GUID partition level so you don't have to worry about it.  On the other
hand, if you are at High Sierra, Snow Leopard will not be able to access
your sytem disk since it looks like jibberish to it (not a known file
system)

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#117237

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-11 22:44 -0700
Message-ID<19a8edaf-72ae-4a3f-ab67-bd0b7aa3c665@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#117235
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:04:07 PM UTC-7, Király wrote:
> On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:24:24 PM UTC-7, Charles H. Sampson wrote:
> > I have an unusual problem that requires me to have a computer running on
> > 10.8. I bought the system disk from Apple for $20
> 
> I'm curious how you got a 10.8 install disk from Apple when Apple never produced
> such a thing. 10.8 was preinstalled on new hardware, or download-to-upgrade only.
> 
> -- 
> K.
> 
> Lang may your lum reek.



Any inconsolable butthurt sleep deprived whacko could easily do the same. You wishing for something does not make it true. 

Right now there are too many "Prescott Computer Guy is our hero" false "advocates" and not enough programers with a clue enough to help the people with Linux gear. 

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#117240

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-06-12 01:51 -0700
Message-ID<a60eed7d-bd6c-42bf-9482-d79faf242171@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#117235
On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 3:04:07 PM UTC-7, Király wrote:
> On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 1:24:24 PM UTC-7, Charles H. Sampson wrote:
> > I have an unusual problem that requires me to have a computer running on
> > 10.8. I bought the system disk from Apple for $20
> 
> I'm curious how you got a 10.8 install disk from Apple when Apple never produced
> such a thing. 10.8 was preinstalled on new hardware, or download-to-upgrade only.
> 
> -- 
> K.
> 
> Lang may your lum reek.



That is the problem now and American instructors don't care, people from past generations are the only ones who know better than to fall for liberalism. These types of trolls get their kicks out of provoking emotional reactions to their insults, which is the very definition of a troll. Jesus does not know if there is a encumbered open source solution or not. A sucking vacuum of ideas, magnified by the reciprocal of a mere moment in a cosmological time scale, demonstrating the vast nothingness of the main character's so-called thought process. Bravo, Jonas Eklundh, you are now living rent-free inside Jesus's beady little brain. Ha! 

How is potential gray matter tied to love of Tar in any way going to lead to valuable newsgroup discussion? Just mindless trolling. And I am rewarding that trolling. THAT is what the "Jesus circus" is. Linux offers the least to the least. 



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#117262

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2018-06-17 15:41 +0000
Message-ID<fondp1Fk09jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#117184
On 2018-06-09, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>
> I have an unusual problem that requires me to have a computer running on
> 10.8. I bought the system disk from Apple for $20 but I'm unable to
> "downgrade". When I click on the disk's Install Mac OS X (which has the
> "No" symbol superimposed on it), I get the following messages:

If you have physical install media, it's a Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard)
DVD.

What *model* and *year* computer is this? Depending on the model, it may
or may not be able to run 10.6.

Knowing the model we'll know which version of macOS it came with and
which versions it can run.

What version macOS is *currently* running on it?

> "You can't use this version of the application 'Install Mac OS X' with
> this version of macOS. You have 'Install Mac OS X' 23.1.1."
> 
> What to do? Are there some system files that I should delete?

That's definitely not the verbatim message. You made some obvious typos
above.

Regardless, to install 10.6 on it, you'll need to insert the Install Mac
OS X 10.6 DVD into the drive, then reboot while holding the C key on the
keyboard to boot from the DVD. Once you've booted up, you'll need to run
Disk Utility from the Utilities menu, erase the startup drive, then quit
Disk Utility to get back to the installer, where you can then install
10.6 onto the startup drive.

Once you have 10.6 installed, you'll have to either use the App Store to
upgrade the OS or use a previously downloaded installer from the App
Store. I have every release archived so I can easily just copy a file to
upgrade when needed.

> By the way, I do have an up-to-date Time Machine backup for the computer
> whose OS I want to change.

Good, because installing 10.6 on it will naturally delete all data you
currently have on the drive. I would advise making another separate
backup with Carbon Copy Cloner or Super Duper as an added precaution.
Better safe than sorry.

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