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  Beach Ball Blues Again csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-04 09:06 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-04 12:11 -0400
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 10:41 -0700
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-06 10:22 -0700
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Again dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-06-07 13:49 +1200
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-06-07 07:05 -0700
            Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:00 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-04 18:20 +0000
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-06-04 14:40 -0700
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 14:50 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again "Tyrone F. Horneigh" <Nunya@Business.net> - 2018-06-04 19:26 -0400
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 00:22 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-06-04 19:04 -0700
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-05 10:02 +0000
    Re: Beach Ball Blues Again csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-06-06 10:18 -0700
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-06-06 11:33 -0700
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-06-07 09:20 +1200
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Again nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-06 17:40 -0400
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 01:03 +0000
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Again nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2018-06-07 05:28 -0600
            Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 16:36 +0000
          Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-06-17 17:38 +0000
      Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-06-07 00:53 +0000
        Re: Beach Ball Blues Again Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 08:56 -0700

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#117165

On 2018-06-07, Neill Massello <nmassello@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> The ones running High Sierra are quite stable and issue-free in general.
>
> What hardware are your running High Sierra on? I had small but annoying
> problems running it on a 2012 Mac mini i7. 

Here at home at the moment I have it running on a 2012 Mac mini server
and a 2011 17-inch MacBook Pro. I also have it running on a few other
computers elsewhere, including an older Apple Mac mini (Mid 2010) (2.4
GHz Intel Core 2 Duo). It's been relatively problem-free on all of
them.

The biggest issue I had was a strange problem with Time Machine backups
hanging while consuming lots of CPU and disk space on the destination
volume on the 2012 Mac mini server that runs most of the network
services for my home network, after the upgrade converted the
internal SSD to APFS. I ended up converting it back to HFS+ to work
around that issue. Since the initial upgrade it's been very stable and
stays running for months on end without a hiccup. 

What sort of problems are you having?

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#117273

In message <fnrejtFbh26U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2018-06-06, Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote:
>>
>> I has a friend struggle with 10.12 on his bulked out development iMac. He'd 
>> have Xcode and a bunch of stuff open, trying to develop and debug his iphone 
>> app and he'd get all sorts of weird problems. Rebooting helped until the 
>> problem happened again.
>>
>> I'm running 10.10 and I can go a week on my 32GB MacPro before it starts 
>> creating VM files. It was worse when I only had 14GB. The Kernel task just 
>> keeps growing and growing until you reboot. I dumped 10.11 because it was 
>> much worse.

> I do software development and more on multiple Macs running different
> versions of macOS that go weeks or months between restarts, where the
> main reason for the restarts is often system updates. The most
> problematic out of all of them is the one running El Capitan (can't
> upgrade past that without significant hacks, unfortunately). The ones
> running High Sierra are quite stable and issue-free in general. 

Yep. I only ever reboot for System updates, and that' been true pretty
much since 10.4.

I have a mac mini acting as Plex/AirVideo HD server that hasn't been rebooted since
the last version of 10.11 (the machine is only available on the LAN, so
I just haven't cared enough to update it).

That's almost three years.

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#117140

On 2018-06-06, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>
> I got a lot of good responses. Thanks to all. For the record, I had
> checked Disk Utility and Activity Monitor. Neither showed any
> particular problem.
>
> It appears that 10.12.6 has a memory leak.

If so, it would show up in Activity Monitor's Memory tab as one or more
processes (possibly kernel_task) using an abnormally large amount of
memory.

> When the problem got unbearable, I rebooted the system and it has gone
> away. My guess of a memory leak could explain the problem because of
> many VM swaps required to do anything at all.

How much RAM is installed on this system?

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#117164

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 5:53:56 PM UTC-7, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2018-06-06, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> >
> > I got a lot of good responses. Thanks to all. For the record, I had
> > checked Disk Utility and Activity Monitor. Neither showed any
> > particular problem.
> >
> > It appears that 10.12.6 has a memory leak.
> 
> If so, it would show up in Activity Monitor's Memory tab as one or more
> processes (possibly kernel_task) using an abnormally large amount of
> memory.
> 
> > When the problem got unbearable, I rebooted the system and it has gone
> > away. My guess of a memory leak could explain the problem because of
> > many VM swaps required to do anything at all.
> 
> How much RAM is installed on this system?
> 
> -- 
> E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
> 
> JR



By following 'teachers' like that you get phrases like 'liberalism'. Carried to its ultimate slippery slope, the push that it's 'gross' for a hetero dude to not wish to identify as a child is born. 

Zeus is far too unintelligent to write a complex script. The only scripting he's able to do is click, click, drool, drool. Everyone is Zeus -- the oldest gag in the book. Reviewing Linux... even now a neophyte... 

Zeus has cut down on the zillions of self obsessed, bullshit threads he used to knock off but he is clearly unchanged in the morality dept. He simple uses shills more now to produce those circuses. Zeus must appreciate that anyone can go get a Mac, right, medhead? And, of course, anyone can can get software to block his crap, which renders _his_ usenet group attack useless, just like Zeus ;) 



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