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  Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-12 08:28 +0200
    Re: Hidden applications running? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-11 23:59 -0800
    Re: Hidden applications running? Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-01-12 12:15 +0000
      Re: Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-12 18:51 +0200
    Re: Hidden applications running? D Finnigan <dog_cow@macgui.com> - 2015-01-12 13:42 +0000
    Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 13:46 +0000
      Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 13:49 +0000
        Re: Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-12 18:51 +0200
          Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 17:14 +0000
            Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 17:15 +0000
              Re: Hidden applications running? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-12 13:21 -0500
            Re: Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-13 06:34 +0200
              Re: Hidden applications running? Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-01-12 20:42 -0800
                Re: Hidden applications running? henry999@eircom.net (Henry) - 2015-01-13 11:16 +0200
              Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-13 16:36 +0000
    Re: Hidden applications running? Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-01-12 10:01 -0500
    Re: Hidden applications running? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-01-12 15:38 +0000
      Re: Hidden applications running? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-01-12 13:18 -0500
        Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 18:41 +0000
          Re: Hidden applications running? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-13 09:46 +1300
            Re: Hidden applications running? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-01-12 21:55 +0000
              Re: Hidden applications running? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-01-13 11:40 +1300

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#68293 — Hidden applications running?

My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
more programs may be using it.'

However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.

How can I find out what hidden program is causing this? Using Activity
Monitor or Console, somehow?

Thanks in advance.

Henry 

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#68294

On 2015-01-12 06:28:02 +0000, Henry said:

> My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
> connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
> error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
> more programs may be using it.'
> 
> However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.
> 
> How can I find out what hidden program is causing this? Using Activity
> Monitor or Console, somehow?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Henry

You should be able to use Terminal and the "fs_usage" command to see 
what files are still open on the disk in question.

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#68295

On 2015-01-12, Henry <henry999@eircom.net> wrote:
> My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
> connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
> error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
> more programs may be using it.'
>
> However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.

I suspect you just answered your own question.


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#68306

Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

> On 2015-01-12, Henry <henry999@eircom.net> wrote:
> > My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
> > connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
> > error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
> > more programs may be using it.'
> >
> > However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.
> 
> I suspect you just answered your own question.

Erm ... no, since all system files are on the internal HD.

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#68296

Henry wrote:
> My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
> connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
> error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
> more programs may be using it.'
> 
> However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.

QuickLook can sometimes keep files open for some time. If you want to eject
the volume NOW, try doing Command-Option-Escape and restart the Finder.

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#68297

On 2015-01-12, Henry <henry999@eircom.net> wrote:
> My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
> connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
> error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
> more programs may be using it.'
>
> However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.
>
> How can I find out what hidden program is causing this? Using Activity
> Monitor or Console, somehow?

Enter this command (where namehere is the name of the volume) in a
terminal window:

lsof /Volumes/namehere

(For instance: lsof /Volumes/2)

You should get a listing of all files that are open on the volume in
question, showing which applications have the files open.

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#68298

On 2015-01-12, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-01-12, Henry <henry999@eircom.net> wrote:
>> My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
>> connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
>> error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
>> more programs may be using it.'
>>
>> However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.
>>
>> How can I find out what hidden program is causing this? Using Activity
>> Monitor or Console, somehow?
>
> Enter this command (where namehere is the name of the volume) in a
> terminal window:
>
> lsof /Volumes/namehere
>
> (For instance: lsof /Volumes/2)

Oops, I misread. For your example above it would be:

lsof "/Volumes/No. 2"

(You'll need to use quotes as shown above since the volume name contains
spaces.)

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#68307

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-01-12, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2015-01-12, Henry <henry999@eircom.net> wrote:
> >> My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
> >> connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
> >> error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
> >> more programs may be using it.'
> >>
> >> However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.
> >>
> >> How can I find out what hidden program is causing this? Using Activity
> >> Monitor or Console, somehow?
> >
> > Enter this command (where namehere is the name of the volume) in a
> > terminal window:
> >
> > lsof /Volumes/namehere
> >
> > (For instance: lsof /Volumes/2)
> 
> Oops, I misread. For your example above it would be:
> 
> lsof "/Volumes/No. 2"
> 
> (You'll need to use quotes as shown above since the volume name contains
> spaces.)

Thanks a lot. That does it. Although (as I figured out) you meant

lsof /Volumes/"No. 2"

cheers,

Henry

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#68308

On 2015-01-12, Henry <henry999@eircom.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> > Enter this command (where namehere is the name of the volume) in a
>> > terminal window:
>> >
>> > lsof /Volumes/namehere
>> >
>> > (For instance: lsof /Volumes/2)
>> 
>> Oops, I misread. For your example above it would be:
>> 
>> lsof "/Volumes/No. 2"
>> 
>> (You'll need to use quotes as shown above since the volume name contains
>> spaces.)
>
> Thanks a lot. That does it. Although (as I figured out) you meant
>
> lsof /Volumes/"No. 2"

No, I meant "/Volumes/No. 2". You should enclose the entire pat in
quotes as a best practice.

So what applications showed up in the listing? Don't leave us wondering!
: )

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#68309

On 2015-01-12, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2015-01-12, Henry <henry999@eircom.net> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> > Enter this command (where namehere is the name of the volume) in a
>>> > terminal window:
>>> >
>>> > lsof /Volumes/namehere
>>> >
>>> > (For instance: lsof /Volumes/2)
>>> 
>>> Oops, I misread. For your example above it would be:
>>> 
>>> lsof "/Volumes/No. 2"
>>> 
>>> (You'll need to use quotes as shown above since the volume name contains
>>> spaces.)
>>
>> Thanks a lot. That does it. Although (as I figured out) you meant
>>
>> lsof /Volumes/"No. 2"
>
> No, I meant "/Volumes/No. 2". You should enclose the entire pat in
> quotes as a best practice.

"path"  : )

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#68311

>> No, I meant "/Volumes/No. 2". You should enclose the entire pat in
>> quotes as a best practice.


Another way:

lsof /Volumes/No.\ 2

(backslash is an escape character that lets you enter special characters)


another way:

lsof /Volumes/No.<tab> and let the shell expand the path name for you
with the required escape characters.

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#68331

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:


> No, I meant "/Volumes/No. 2". You should enclose the entire path in
> quotes as a best practice.


Well, that's funny, then, because

lsof"/Volumes/No. 2" returned

-bash: lsof/Volumes/No. 2: No such file or directory

but

lsof /Volumes/"No. 2" worked.


> 
> So what applications showed up in the listing? Don't leave us wondering!
> : )

And it appears the culprit is ...

DGAgent  73873 Henry  txt    REG    1,7   398588 27200 /Volumes/No. 2/
Drive Genius
3.app/Contents/Frameworks/Sparkle.framework/Versions/A/Sparkle


cheers,

Henry

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#68332

On 2015-01-13 04:34:52 +0000, Henry said:

> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> No, I meant "/Volumes/No. 2". You should enclose the entire path in
>> quotes as a best practice.
> 
> 
> Well, that's funny, then, because
> 
> lsof"/Volumes/No. 2" returned
     ^
     |


No space.


> 
> -bash: lsof/Volumes/No. 2: No such file or directory
> 
> but
> 
> lsof /Volumes/"No. 2" worked.
> 
> 
>> 
>> So what applications showed up in the listing? Don't leave us wondering!
>> : )
> 
> And it appears the culprit is ...
> 
> DGAgent  73873 Henry  txt    REG    1,7   398588 27200 /Volumes/No. 2/
> Drive Genius
> 3.app/Contents/Frameworks/Sparkle.framework/Versions/A/Sparkle
> 
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Henry

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#68340

Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> wrote:

> On 2015-01-13 04:34:52 +0000, Henry said:
> 
> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> No, I meant "/Volumes/No. 2". You should enclose the entire path in
> >> quotes as a best practice.
> > 
> > 
> > Well, that's funny, then, because
> > 
> > lsof"/Volumes/No. 2" returned
>      ^
>      |
> 
> 
> No space.



Guilty.     :-)     The dimming of the eyes.

H.

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#68349

On 2015-01-13, Henry <henry999@eircom.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> No, I meant "/Volumes/No. 2". You should enclose the entire path in
>> quotes as a best practice.
>
> Well, that's funny, then, because
>
> lsof"/Volumes/No. 2" returned
>
> -bash: lsof/Volumes/No. 2: No such file or directory

Like Alan said, you missed a space.

>> So what applications showed up in the listing? Don't leave us wondering!
>> : )
>
> And it appears the culprit is ...
>
> DGAgent  73873 Henry  txt    REG    1,7   398588 27200 /Volumes/No. 2/
> Drive Genius
> 3.app/Contents/Frameworks/Sparkle.framework/Versions/A/Sparkle

That appears to be part of DriveGenius, a $99 utility that claims to
speed up your Mac by defragmenting (which is unnecessary since Mac OS X
has built-in on-the-fly fragmentation and optimization), large file
search (which can be had for free with utilities like GrandPerspective),
finding duplicates (which can also be had for free with various
utilities) and so on. If it's causing problems for you, there are
alternative free solutions that do work well.

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#68299

On 1/12/15, 1:28 AM, Henry wrote:
> My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
> connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
> error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
> more programs may be using it.'
>
> However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.
>
> How can I find out what hidden program is causing this? Using Activity
> Monitor or Console, somehow?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Henry
>

I often get the same error message trying to unmount the encrypted 
sparsebundle with all my confidential data on my fully updatee iMac. If 
I open then close Pages (Ver. 5.5.2), it takes care of it. I should add 
that I use Pages a lot and open and close many docs during the day.

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team, and I need me eight soldiers."

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#68301

For your reference, records indicate that 
henry999@eircom.net (Henry) wrote:

> My iMac (running Yosemite 10.10.1) has an external USB 3 HD named No. 2
> connected to it. When I try to unmount the external drive, I get an
> error message saying 'The disk "No. 2" wasn't ejected because one or
> more programs may be using it.'
> 
> However, as far as I can see, there is nothing open except the Finder.
> 
> How can I find out what hidden program is causing this? Using Activity
> Monitor or Console, somehow?

The Terminal command “lsof” is most often used to do this.  To search
for that specific disk try something like:

lsof | grep "No. 2"

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#68310

On 15-01-12 10:38, Doc O'Leary wrote:

> lsof | grep "No. 2"


Shouldn't a normal user have to use sudo for this command to see other
people/processes files which are in use ?  or does lsof elevate its own
privs so that sudo is not necessary ?

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#68312

On 2015-01-12, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> On 15-01-12 10:38, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>
>> lsof | grep "No. 2"
>
>
> Shouldn't a normal user have to use sudo for this command to see other
> people/processes files which are in use ?  or does lsof elevate its own
> privs so that sudo is not necessary ?

Yes, but it's doubtful that another user account has files open on the
OP's removable drive.

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#68319

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-01-12, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
> > On 15-01-12 10:38, Doc O'Leary wrote:
> >
> >> lsof | grep "No. 2"
> >
> >
> > Shouldn't a normal user have to use sudo for this command to see other
> > people/processes files which are in use ?  or does lsof elevate its own
> > privs so that sudo is not necessary ?
> 
> Yes, but it's doubtful that another user account has files open on the
> OP's removable drive.

It is possible that a system process is the culprit, e.g. Spotlight
indexing not releasing the drive quickly enough when the user requests
the eject.

If lsof "/Volumes/No. 2" doesn't reveal anything, try

sudo lsof "/Volumes/No. 2"

(assuming you are running as a user with admin privileges).

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dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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