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  My new(to me) iMac came today! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-03 02:36 +0000
    Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-03 16:40 +1300
      Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-03 03:42 +0000
        Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-03 16:24 +1100
        Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-03 21:04 +1300
    Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-03 08:10 -0400
    Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-03 16:21 +0000
      Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-03 17:50 +0000
        Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-03 18:25 +0000
          Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-03 22:01 +0000
            Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-03 18:33 -0400
              Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-04 00:06 +0000
                Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-03 20:31 -0400
    Re: My new(to me) iMac came today! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-03 20:25 +0000

#72593 — My new(to me) iMac came today!

UPS just delivered the iMac and I got it set up.  It had 10.6.8 on it, 
but I immediately upgraded to OSX 10.10.2.  Authorized it for my iTunes 
account from old G4, downloaded my tunes that I had purchased(they are 
now in the cloud) and so far so good.  Too bad it is not really an 
Internet machine, no NNTP reader(followed the thread), Adobe Reader did 
not come on the machine(should I download it?), and I did not want to 
enable Mail, as I use Gmail and would prefer the web interface on the iMac
(read the mail.app thread of problems).
It is a beautiful machine.  Put my old G4 away in the closet, don't even 
need the round digital speakers anymore.  Using my old, yellowed iMac 
keyboard and the single point mouse, both came with the G4.
It even found my Brother wireless printer located in the living room with 
no problem.
Now, if I can just find Sarah Lane?

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#72596

sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> UPS just delivered the iMac and I got it set up.  It had 10.6.8 on it,
> but I immediately upgraded to OSX 10.10.2.  Authorized it for my iTunes
> account from old G4, downloaded my tunes that I had purchased(they are
> now in the cloud) and so far so good.  Too bad it is not really an 
> Internet machine, no NNTP reader(followed the thread), Adobe Reader did
> not come on the machine(should I download it?)

Preview comes with OS X, and it covers almost all need for viewing PDFs.

The only area I've encountered where Preview isn't sufficient is filling
in PDF forms. I have Adobe Reader for that, but I use it less often than
it gets updated by Adobe.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#72598

On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:40:10 +1300, David Empson wrote:

> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
>> UPS just delivered the iMac and I got it set up.  It had 10.6.8 on it,
>> but I immediately upgraded to OSX 10.10.2.  Authorized it for my iTunes
>> account from old G4, downloaded my tunes that I had purchased(they are
>> now in the cloud) and so far so good.  Too bad it is not really an
>> Internet machine, no NNTP reader(followed the thread), Adobe Reader did
>> not come on the machine(should I download it?)
> 
> Preview comes with OS X, and it covers almost all need for viewing PDFs.
> 
> The only area I've encountered where Preview isn't sufficient is filling
> in PDF forms. I have Adobe Reader for that, but I use it less often than
> it gets updated by Adobe.

David, question.  Will I need to buy the last iLife package, iLife 11?  I 
have tons of old photos on my G4, all in iPhoto format.

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#72601

In article <mfl27i$jmu$1@dont-email.me>,
 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> David, question.  Will I need to buy the last iLife package, iLife 11?  I 
> have tons of old photos on my G4, all in iPhoto format.

There is surely no such thing as iPhoto format. If you drag a picture 
off an iPhoto gallery page (to, say, the desktop, you will find it is 
a familiar format like jpg).

-- 
dorayme

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#72604

sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:40:10 +1300, David Empson wrote:
> 
> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> UPS just delivered the iMac and I got it set up.  It had 10.6.8 on it,
> >> but I immediately upgraded to OSX 10.10.2.  Authorized it for my iTunes
> >> account from old G4, downloaded my tunes that I had purchased(they are
> >> now in the cloud) and so far so good.  Too bad it is not really an
> >> Internet machine, no NNTP reader(followed the thread), Adobe Reader did
> >> not come on the machine(should I download it?)
> > 
> > Preview comes with OS X, and it covers almost all need for viewing PDFs.
> > 
> > The only area I've encountered where Preview isn't sufficient is filling
> > in PDF forms. I have Adobe Reader for that, but I use it less often than
> > it gets updated by Adobe.
> 
> David, question.  Will I need to buy the last iLife package, iLife 11?  I
> have tons of old photos on my G4, all in iPhoto format.

No, you've upgraded to Yosemite, therefore you can get the current
version of iPhoto for free using App Store.

As I said previously, because your existing version of iPhoto is
considerably older, you will also need a utility to update your existing
iPhoto library before it can be opened by the current version.

https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1523

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#72605

On 2015-04-02 22:36, sctvguy1 wrote:
> UPS just delivered the iMac and I got it set up.  It had 10.6.8 on it,
> but I immediately upgraded to OSX 10.10.2.  Authorized it for my iTunes
> account from old G4, downloaded my tunes that I had purchased(they are
> now in the cloud) and so far so good.  Too bad it is not really an
> Internet machine, no NNTP reader(followed the thread), Adobe Reader did

It's a fine internet machine.

Put Chrome on it if you dislike Safari.

Put Thunderbird on it for usenet if there are no other satisfying 
newsreaders.

> not come on the machine(should I download it?), and I did not want to
> enable Mail, as I use Gmail and would prefer the web interface on the iMac
> (read the mail.app thread of problems).

Sure DL and install Adobe Reader.

Use Apple Mail with GMail (POP or IMAP as you see fit).  The problems 
occur, but sorted out, it works fine.

> It is a beautiful machine.  Put my old G4 away in the closet, don't even
> need the round digital speakers anymore.  Using my old, yellowed iMac
> keyboard and the single point mouse, both came with the G4.
> It even found my Brother wireless printer located in the living room with
> no problem.
> Now, if I can just find Sarah Lane?

Seek, ...


Also, get an external drive and enable Time Machine.

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#72609

On 2015-04-03, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> Too bad it is not really an Internet machine

Not sure what that means. It's a fine internet machine.

> no NNTP reader(followed the thread)

There are several options. slrn works fine for me.

> Adobe Reader did not come on the machine(should I download it?)

OS X has PDF built in. Preview will display PDFs just fine. I haven't
needed Reader in ages.

> and I did not want to enable Mail, as I use Gmail and would prefer the
> web interface on the iMac (read the mail.app thread of problems).

I haven't had any problems with GMail in Apple Mail here for the past
few years. But then I tend not to refrain from trying shit just because
other people say it doesn't work for them.  I prefer to see for myself.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#72611

On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 16:21:13 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2015-04-03, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
>> Too bad it is not really an Internet machine
> 
> Not sure what that means. It's a fine internet machine.
> 
>> no NNTP reader(followed the thread)
> 
> There are several options. slrn works fine for me.
> 
>> Adobe Reader did not come on the machine(should I download it?)
> 
> OS X has PDF built in. Preview will display PDFs just fine. I haven't
> needed Reader in ages.
> 
>> and I did not want to enable Mail, as I use Gmail and would prefer the
>> web interface on the iMac (read the mail.app thread of problems).
> 
> I haven't had any problems with GMail in Apple Mail here for the past
> few years. But then I tend not to refrain from trying shit just because
> other people say it doesn't work for them.  I prefer to see for myself.

Apple Mail sure has come a long way since 10.2/10.4!  I opened it, it 
found all the GMail settings and is working fine!  The interface is 
certainly better!
If I do not need Adobe Reader, then I can forget it, it was a real pain 
anyway.
Guess that I will use Thunderbird for reading NNTP groups, even though it 
is pretty clunky.  I do not even use slrn/tin on Linux, preferring Pan.  
Will Pan install on iMac?
Another question: will my old Super Duper transfer over to the new iMac, 
or will I have to download and purchase a new copy?  Also, if I use my 
LaCie 350gig backup hdd in the firewire port, will it synch with Time 
Machine, or will all the old PPC stuff conflict?  

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#72613

On 2015-04-03, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>
> Guess that I will use Thunderbird for reading NNTP groups, even though it 
> is pretty clunky. I do not even use slrn/tin on Linux, preferring Pan.  
> Will Pan install on iMac?

It's possible you can compile it. It looks like it's available from
MacPorts for the lazies:

<https://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/news/pan2/Portfile>

> Another question: will my old Super Duper transfer over to the new iMac, 
> or will I have to download and purchase a new copy?

I would just install the latest version and register it with the same
registration information.

> Also, if I use my LaCie 350gig backup hdd in the firewire port, will
> it synch with Time Machine, or will all the old PPC stuff conflict?  

If you've already migrated everything to the new machine, why not just
erase the drive and start fresh with a new Time Machine backup?

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#72623

On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 18:25:15 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2015-04-03, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>> Guess that I will use Thunderbird for reading NNTP groups, even though
>> it is pretty clunky. I do not even use slrn/tin on Linux, preferring
>> Pan. Will Pan install on iMac?
> 
> It's possible you can compile it. It looks like it's available from
> MacPorts for the lazies:
> 
> <https://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/news/pan2/Portfile>
> 
>> Another question: will my old Super Duper transfer over to the new
>> iMac, or will I have to download and purchase a new copy?
> 
> I would just install the latest version and register it with the same
> registration information.
> 
>> Also, if I use my LaCie 350gig backup hdd in the firewire port, will it
>> synch with Time Machine, or will all the old PPC stuff conflict?
> 
> If you've already migrated everything to the new machine, why not just
> erase the drive and start fresh with a new Time Machine backup?

JR,
I did not migrate all the stuff from the PPC drive.  I wanted to have it 
totally clean.  The only stuff that I really wanted was the iTunes, which 
I downloaded from Apple(thank God they allow that!), the Super Duper
(which you now told me to download the Intel version and use the old 
registration number), and Thoth(which may/may not work on Intel, it is 
version 1.8).  The rest of the stuff was crap, like Apple Works and other 
stuff that came from upgrading from 10.2 to 10.3 to 10.4.11.  
I just spent the last hour transferring all my old iPhotos from CD and USB 
stick to the new 10.10.2 version of iPhoto.  Thanks to David Empson, he 
told me about the iPhoto upgrade tool to allow old format iPhotos to load 
and be compatible with the newest version.
Could I just wipe the LaCie drive, it is 350gigs, and just start clean?  
Will it be compatible with Time Machine?  If so, then I will go that 
route.  So far, this new iMac is a gem, so unlike the old G4, less 
cartoony and so much faster!!!
Thanks for all your advice and help, along with others, I very much 
appreciate the help.  

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#72624

On 2015-04-03 18:01, sctvguy1 wrote:
> On Fri, 03 Apr 2015 18:25:15 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-03, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Guess that I will use Thunderbird for reading NNTP groups, even though
>>> it is pretty clunky. I do not even use slrn/tin on Linux, preferring
>>> Pan. Will Pan install on iMac?
>>
>> It's possible you can compile it. It looks like it's available from
>> MacPorts for the lazies:
>>
>> <https://trac.macports.org/browser/trunk/dports/news/pan2/Portfile>
>>
>>> Another question: will my old Super Duper transfer over to the new
>>> iMac, or will I have to download and purchase a new copy?
>>
>> I would just install the latest version and register it with the same
>> registration information.
>>
>>> Also, if I use my LaCie 350gig backup hdd in the firewire port, will it
>>> synch with Time Machine, or will all the old PPC stuff conflict?
>>
>> If you've already migrated everything to the new machine, why not just
>> erase the drive and start fresh with a new Time Machine backup?
>
> JR,
> I did not migrate all the stuff from the PPC drive.  I wanted to have it
> totally clean.  The only stuff that I really wanted was the iTunes, which
> I downloaded from Apple(thank God they allow that!), the Super Duper
> (which you now told me to download the Intel version and use the old
> registration number), and Thoth(which may/may not work on Intel, it is
> version 1.8).  The rest of the stuff was crap, like Apple Works and other
> stuff that came from upgrading from 10.2 to 10.3 to 10.4.11.
> I just spent the last hour transferring all my old iPhotos from CD and USB
> stick to the new 10.10.2 version of iPhoto.  Thanks to David Empson, he
> told me about the iPhoto upgrade tool to allow old format iPhotos to load
> and be compatible with the newest version.
> Could I just wipe the LaCie drive, it is 350gigs, and just start clean?

Disk utility (generally the same as the PPC version) will do that for 
you, yes.

And you can use journaled, encrypted so that when, one day, the disk is 
no longer useful, there is no need to do anything other than losing the 
encryption key (password) to ensure privacy (delete it from the 
keychain, lose the password and that disk is pretty much random numbers).

(You can "FileVault" your system drive too).

> Will it be compatible with Time Machine?  If so, then I will go that

Yep

> route.  So far, this new iMac is a gem, so unlike the old G4, less
> cartoony and so much faster!!!
> Thanks for all your advice and help, along with others, I very much
> appreciate the help.

JR is always helpful.  Well, yeah, pretty much always.

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#72627

On 2015-04-03, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>
> JR is always helpful.  Well, yeah, pretty much always.

HA! You haven't seen me with a few drinks in me - totally useless! : D

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#72628

On 2015-04-03 20:06, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2015-04-03, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>
>> JR is always helpful.  Well, yeah, pretty much always.
>
> HA! You haven't seen me with a few drinks in me - totally useless! : D

I resemble that remark.

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#72617

In message <mfkuao$7m5$1@dont-email.me> 
  sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> Now, if I can just find Sarah Lane?

<http://techcrunch.com/author/sarah-lane/>

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