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  Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-27 23:57 +0000
    Re: Finally got my new iMac! dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-03-28 11:12 +1100
      Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 00:25 +0000
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-03-28 12:34 +1100
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 02:01 +0000
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-28 09:02 -0400
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:19 +0000
      Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-28 09:01 -0400
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:20 +0000
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-29 08:40 -0400
    Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 02:00 +0000
      Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 03:05 +0000
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-28 18:12 +1200
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:43 +0000
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-03-28 02:04 -0600
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:37 +0000
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-28 16:51 -0400
              Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 21:30 +0000
                Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 12:42 +1300
                  Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:29 +0000
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:10 +0000
              Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 21:38 +0000
                Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:26 +0000
                  Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:26 +0000
                    Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 18:01 +1300
                    Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:50 +0000
                    Re: Finally got my new iMac! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-04-02 12:40 -0400
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-29 09:19 +1200
              Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 21:39 +0000
              Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:20 +0000
                Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:02 +0000
                  Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-29 17:19 +1200
                    Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 04:27 +0000
                      Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:48 +0000
                  Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 18:01 +1300
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-28 22:03 +1300
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:34 +0000
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:42 +0000
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:52 +0000
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 21:28 +0000
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:23 +0000
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-29 13:45 +1200
              Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:35 +0000
                Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-29 17:15 +1200
                Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-29 08:55 -0400
                  Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 14:34 +0000
                    Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-29 18:16 -0400
                Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:42 +0000
                  Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 14:31 +0000
                    Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 14:48 +0000
                      Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 15:36 +0000
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-29 08:49 -0400
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:52 +0000
      Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-28 09:04 -0400
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-28 15:16 -0400
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:17 +0000
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-28 16:29 -0400
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:01 +0000
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-28 17:11 -0400
              Re: Finally got my new iMac! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-28 17:16 -0400
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-28 16:29 -0400
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:58 +0000
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:55 +0000
    Re: Finally got my new iMac! DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-27 23:52 -0700
      Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:39 +0000
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-03-29 01:31 -0700
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 14:48 +0000
    Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-28 22:03 +1300
      Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:32 +0000
        Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 12:27 +1300
          Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 02:55 +0000
            Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 18:01 +1300
              Re: Finally got my new iMac! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-29 02:20 -0700
                Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 23:41 +1300
                  Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 23:43 +1300
                Re: Finally got my new iMac! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 17:28 +0000
                  Re: Finally got my new iMac! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-29 10:47 -0700
                    Re: Finally got my new iMac! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 11:25 -0700
                    Re: Finally got my new iMac! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 22:12 +0000
                      Re: Finally got my new iMac! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-29 15:34 -0700
              Re: Finally got my new iMac! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 17:24 +0000

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#72259

On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
>
>> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
>> 
>> There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find 10.6
>> DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
>
> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and 
> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from 
> people.

The whole idea of installing a new operating system is to insure your OS
is free of nasties that someone else may have put there. Purchasing some
thumb drive some stranger created isn't going to help there. Just
purchase it from Apple directly.

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#72265

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 21:10:59 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
>>
>>> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
>>> 
>>> There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find
>>> 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
>>
>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and
>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from
>> people.
> 
> The whole idea of installing a new operating system is to insure your OS
> is free of nasties that someone else may have put there. Purchasing some
> thumb drive some stranger created isn't going to help there. Just
> purchase it from Apple directly.

Amazon has the original Lion thumb drive, as does ebay.  I would not 
trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive.  I will admit that the only 
"pirated" OS that I ever had was when several teachers in my school made 
us copies of W2K Professional to have on our home computers to match the 
school computers!  He also provided us with a copy of Microsoft Office 
2000.  Seems like every teacher in the school had done the same thing, 
even the principal did not care!  It did allow me to run the gradebook 
app at home and not have to be at my classroom computer!

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#72271

On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 21:10:59 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
>>>
>>>> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
>>>> 
>>>> There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find
>>>> 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
>>>
>>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and
>>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from
>>> people.
>> 
>> The whole idea of installing a new operating system is to insure your OS
>> is free of nasties that someone else may have put there. Purchasing some
>> thumb drive some stranger created isn't going to help there. Just
>> purchase it from Apple directly.
>
> Amazon has the original Lion thumb drive, as does ebay.

Personally, I'd skip Lion (10.7) and go straight to Yosemite (10.10)
since a lot of problems in Lion and Mountain Lion, and even Mavericks,
are solved in Yosemite.

> I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive.

Good!

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#72298

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:26:42 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

<snip>

> Personally, I'd skip Lion (10.7) and go straight to Yosemite (10.10)
> since a lot of problems in Lion and Mountain Lion, and even Mavericks,
> are solved in Yosemite.
> 
>> I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive.
> 
> Good!

I have read that Lion/Mt.Lion were transitional years, and even Mavericks 
was not that stable.
Was Tiger the "best" version?  I have heard that from several sources, 
that is the version that my old iMac G4 has, 10.4.11!
Should I just stay with what comes on the machine(Snow Leopard 10.6.x)?

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#72308

sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:26:42 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > Personally, I'd skip Lion (10.7) and go straight to Yosemite (10.10)
> > since a lot of problems in Lion and Mountain Lion, and even Mavericks,
> > are solved in Yosemite.
> > 
> >> I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive.
> > 
> > Good!
> 
> I have read that Lion/Mt.Lion were transitional years, and even Mavericks
> was not that stable.
> Was Tiger the "best" version?  I have heard that from several sources,
> that is the version that my old iMac G4 has, 10.4.11!
> Should I just stay with what comes on the machine(Snow Leopard 10.6.x)?

In my experience, most people consider that Snow Leopard was the best
version of OS X to date.

Those who continue running Snow Leopard at this point are likely to fall
into one of these camps:

(a) Have essential PowerPC-only applications, which won't run in later
versions because the Rosetta code translation mechanism was dropped in
Lion, and they either don't want to upgrade the apps or some have been
discontinued and they don't want to change to something else.

(b) The Mac in question is an early Intel model which cannot upgrade
further. (All Early 2006 models, some Mid to Late 2006 models.)

(c) The Mac in question is a slightly newer Intel model which could
upgrade to Lion but not to Mountain Lion or later, and Lion is really
not worth it. (Late 2006 to some models as recent as Late 2008.)

(d) Don't like changes in later versions.

(e) Generally reluctant to upgrade the OS.

I was in group (a) for several months after Lion was released, because I
was using Eudora as my mail client and was reluctant to switch to
something else. I eventually got over it and upgraded to Lion about ten
months after Lion was released, and upgraded promptly to each subsequent
version.

As you still have an older PowerPC iMac, (a) shouldn't apply to you
unless you want to keep everything on the same computer. Even then,
running Snow Leopard Server in a virtual machine on a later OS X version
is a reasonable solution for occasionally running old applications. I
use this method to run things like old versions of FileMaker or
AppleWorks once in a blue moon.

The main argument against continuing to run Snow Leopard now is that it
is becoming obsolete: its last security and Safari updates were in late
2013, and its last iTunes update was in late 2014, which means iTunes on
Snow Leopard won't be able to operate with iOS devices running iOS 9
later this year.

At present, third party web browsers (e.g. Firefox and Chrome) still
support Snow Leopard, as does Adobe Flash, but the question is how much
longer that will continue. Based on when they stopped supporting
Leopard, I'm expecting at least some of them will drop Snow Leopard
support this year.

Other third party applications vary, but many have already moved on to
requiring a later version of OS X. As far as I know, the current version
of all of Apple's applications require a later OS X version (most
require Yosemite, a few still support Mavericks, a very few still
support Mountain Lion or Lion).

If your iMac is not being used for web access, and you don't have any
iOS devices, and the main function will be to run iTunes, then Snow
Leopard may be a reasonable choice in your case.

At a minimum, you should get Yosemite from the App Store, even if you
don't install it now (you can cancel the download, or quit the installer
if you let it finish downloading). Based on the pattern with Mavericks,
once the next OS X version is released, you won't be able to get
Yosemite if you didn't get it while it was available. You will be able
to download Yosemite later if it is already in your Purchases list.

You can also download and keep a copy of the Yosemite installer in case
you need it later, preferably on an external drive, since a 5 GB file
would be a significant chunk of your internal 160 GB drive.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#72328

On 2015-03-29, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:26:42 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Personally, I'd skip Lion (10.7) and go straight to Yosemite (10.10)
>> since a lot of problems in Lion and Mountain Lion, and even Mavericks,
>> are solved in Yosemite.
>> 
>>> I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive.
>> 
>> Good!
>
> I have read that Lion/Mt.Lion were transitional years, and even Mavericks 
> was not that stable.

Yep. Lots of the bugs introduced in those versions have been fixed in
Yosemite.

> Was Tiger the "best" version?  I have heard that from several sources, 
> that is the version that my old iMac G4 has, 10.4.11!
> Should I just stay with what comes on the machine(Snow Leopard 10.6.x)?

I'd go straight to Yosemite. But if you are trying to avoid that for
some strange reason, I'd stick with 10.6.

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#72566

In article <mf7rcq$up5$4@dont-email.me>,
 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> I have read that Lion/Mt.Lion were transitional years, and even Mavericks 
> was not that stable.
> Was Tiger the "best" version?  I have heard that from several sources, 
> that is the version that my old iMac G4 has, 10.4.11!
> Should I just stay with what comes on the machine(Snow Leopard 10.6.x)?

I'd like to, but 10.6 hasn't been supported for too long. <sigh>  
Core 2 duo machine can be pretty peppy with Snow Leopard.

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#72262

In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
> > 
> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find 10.6
> > DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
> 
> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and 
> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from 
> people.

Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions
of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them.

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#72266

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:19:05 +1200, Your Name wrote:

> In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
>> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
>> > 
>> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find
>> > 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
>> 
>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and
>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from
>> people.
> 
> Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions
> of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them.

The model will run the latest OS according to http://www.everymac.com/
systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2-duo-2.26-20-inch-aluminum-mid-2009-
education-specs.html

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#72269

On 2015-03-28, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
>> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
>> > 
>> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find 10.6
>> > DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
>> 
>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and 
>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from 
>> people.
>
> Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions
> of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them.

His iMac is circa 2009, and any iMac Mid-2007 or newer will run
Yosemite, according to Apple.

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#72295

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:20:23 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:

> On 2015-03-28, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>> In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
>><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
>>> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
>>> > 
>>> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find
>>> > 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
>>> 
>>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and
>>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy
>>> from people.
>>
>> Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions
>> of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them.
> 
> His iMac is circa 2009, and any iMac Mid-2007 or newer will run
> Yosemite, according to Apple.

This is a very weird model, being an educational model.  It is branded as 
being "late 2009", but according to everymac.com, it was not produced 
until 2010, with production ending in 2012.
Why would this model be listed as being a year older?

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#72302

In article <mf7q0n$up5$3@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:20:23 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > On 2015-03-28, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> >><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
> >>> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> >>> > 
> >>> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
> >>> > 
> >>> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find
> >>> > 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and
> >>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy
> >>> from people.
> >>
> >> Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions
> >> of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them.
> > 
> > His iMac is circa 2009, and any iMac Mid-2007 or newer will run
> > Yosemite, according to Apple.
> 
> This is a very weird model, being an educational model.  It is branded as 
> being "late 2009", but according to everymac.com, it was not produced 
> until 2010, with production ending in 2012.
> Why would this model be listed as being a year older?

Because that's when Apple released it as an Educational model (possibly
even a re-release of an older version with slight tweaks) - it may well
be almost the same as the 2009 model, but been lower-end than the other
models being sold in 2010. There have been a few Educational models
over the years that the general public weren't able to buy.

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#72304

On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 17:19:16 +1200, Your Name wrote:


>> This is a very weird model, being an educational model.  It is branded
>> as being "late 2009", but according to everymac.com, it was not
>> produced until 2010, with production ending in 2012.
>> Why would this model be listed as being a year older?
> 
> Because that's when Apple released it as an Educational model (possibly
> even a re-release of an older version with slight tweaks) - it may well
> be almost the same as the 2009 model, but been lower-end than the other
> models being sold in 2010. There have been a few Educational models over
> the years that the general public weren't able to buy.

Educational/institutional models are weird.  This one that I bought, has 
no bluetooth, guess that they did not want students mucking about with 
their cell phones or something!  I have never had a need for bluetooth on 
any of my other computers, all of them running Scientific Linux 6.6(which 
has bluetooth).  I do not use my phone to "pair" with the computer.  If I 
want to transfer things, like photos, I use usb cables.  I just recently 
got my first "smartphone", a Motorola Moto E, not a high end job.  I was 
using a Pantech Breeze II flip phone and getting along well enough, but 
my wife has had a Motorola Atrix for several years and wanted me to use 
texting, which was a real bitch on that flip phone!

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#72327

On 2015-03-29, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>
> I have never had a need for bluetooth on any of my other computers,
> all of them running Scientific Linux 6.6(which has bluetooth).  I do
> not use my phone to "pair" with the computer.

With Macs, Bluetooth provides way more functionality than just
transferring files. Lots of Continuity functionality is enabled by
Bluetooth for instance:

<https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/continuity/>

AirDrop is built on top of Bluetooth as well:

<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202267>

The list goes on...

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#72309

sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:20:23 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
> > On 2015-03-28, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >> In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
> >><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote:
> >>> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> >>> > 
> >>> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
> >>> > 
> >>> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find
> >>> > 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>.
> >>> 
> >>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and
> >>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy
> >>> from people.
> >>
> >> Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions
> >> of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them.
> > 
> > His iMac is circa 2009, and any iMac Mid-2007 or newer will run
> > Yosemite, according to Apple.
> 
> This is a very weird model, being an educational model.  It is branded as
> being "late 2009", but according to everymac.com, it was not produced
> until 2010, with production ending in 2012.
> Why would this model be listed as being a year older?

There is limited verifiable information about your model, because its
release wasn't publicised. Everymac may have some details wrong, and if
it was advertised to you as a "Late 2009" that may be misleading because
the Late 2009 retail iMac is quite a different beast.

Describing it as a "Mid 2009" is reasonable, because it is identical to
the originally released Mid 2009 model, apart from a slightly faster
processor. It will have the same model identifier as that model, which
means that when a future OS X version drops support for the original Mid
2009 iMac, your slightly faster one will also stop being supported.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#72215

sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:00:28 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
> 
> 
> > Congrats. Your biggest worry with that machine is overheating and
> > component failure, which goes for most machines that age. I'd open it up
> > and give it a thorough dusting, first thing, followed by erasing the
> > hard drive and installing a fresh known-good pristine copy of Mac OS X
> > to start fresh without any potential nasties.
> 
> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?

It should be possible to contact Apple Sales to order a replacement set
of the original DVDs which came with the computer. Given that it was
introduced in 2010, it should have a pair of DVDs, one with Snow Leopard
and the other with the bundled iLife '09 applications. This will not be
free.

A possible complication is that this is an education-only model, and
they might not be willing to supply the discs unless you are an
educational institution.

Another option is to buy a retail Snow Leopard DVD, which is still
available from the Apple online store for US$19.99:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard

That will give you the most important bit. It won't give you the
hardware test software (only on the bundled DVD), nor the iLife '09
installer (which you could probably get through a remarketing source or
ebay if you really wanted that version - I'd suggest getting iLife '11
instead).

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#72244

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:03:23 +1300, David Empson wrote:


>> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?
> 
> It should be possible to contact Apple Sales to order a replacement set
> of the original DVDs which came with the computer. Given that it was
> introduced in 2010, it should have a pair of DVDs, one with Snow Leopard
> and the other with the bundled iLife '09 applications. This will not be
> free.
> 
> A possible complication is that this is an education-only model, and
> they might not be willing to supply the discs unless you are an
> educational institution.
> 
> Another option is to buy a retail Snow Leopard DVD, which is still
> available from the Apple online store for US$19.99:
> 
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard
> 
> That will give you the most important bit. It won't give you the
> hardware test software (only on the bundled DVD), nor the iLife '09
> installer (which you could probably get through a remarketing source or
> ebay if you really wanted that version - I'd suggest getting iLife '11
> instead).

Thank you, I asked this question to you in an earlier post, so please 
disregard that!  I asked about the same stuff you answered here, so I 
will use this info when I get the machine.

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#72267

Okay, so one time? In band camp? David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> was all, like:
> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:00:28 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > Congrats. Your biggest worry with that machine is overheating and
>> > component failure, which goes for most machines that age. I'd open it up
>> > and give it a thorough dusting, first thing, followed by erasing the
>> > hard drive and installing a fresh known-good pristine copy of Mac OS X
>> > to start fresh without any potential nasties.
>> 
>> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?

> It should be possible to contact Apple Sales to order a replacement set
> of the original DVDs which came with the computer. Given that it was
> introduced in 2010, it should have a pair of DVDs, one with Snow Leopard
> and the other with the bundled iLife '09 applications. This will not be
> free.

A friend of mine had a 10.5 machine that he wanted to update to 10.7.
When he called Apple they sent him an install DVD of 10.6.3 so he could
update to 10.6.8 so he could buy 10.7. They did not charge him for the
DVD even though the 10.6.3 installer is normally $20. I think the key
was "I want to update to 10.7".

-- 
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'I don't like to ask them questions.' 'Why not?' 'They might give me
answers. And then what would I do?'

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#72250

On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:00:28 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Congrats. Your biggest worry with that machine is overheating and
>> component failure, which goes for most machines that age. I'd open it up
>> and give it a thorough dusting, first thing, followed by erasing the
>> hard drive and installing a fresh known-good pristine copy of Mac OS X
>> to start fresh without any potential nasties.
>
> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS?  I thought that the 
> discontinued those a long time ago?  The only CDs that I have are:
> 10.2 Jaguar(the disks that came with my 2002 G4)
> 10.3 Panther(boxed)
> 10.4.11(disks only)
> All of these are for the PPC only.  Would I have to go on eBay to find 
> the OS disks?

Nah, you purchase Yosemite from the App Store (from the Apple menu), and
you install it that way:

<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475>

> Are these easy to open up and blow the dust out?

I should have made that clear. Sorry. No iMac is "easy" to open for the
average user. I've worked on enough computers that it's not something
I'd shy away from, though. You'll need to have some skill and patience
to do it.
 
It looks like you have the Core 2 Duo iMac 2.26 GHz (Mid-2009) model:

<http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2-duo-2.26-20-inch-aluminum-mid-2009-education-specs.html>

Here's the iFixit tear down, showing what is involved:

<https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Intel+20-Inch+EMC+2266+Teardown/658>

If it looks like too much for you, you probably shouldn't mess with it.
There will likely be some dust buildup inside of the machine, but it
won't cause catastrophic problems if you leave it be.

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#72263

On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 20:52:24 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote:


> Nah, you purchase Yosemite from the App Store (from the Apple menu), and
> you install it that way:
> 
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475>
> 
>> Are these easy to open up and blow the dust out?
> 
> I should have made that clear. Sorry. No iMac is "easy" to open for the
> average user. I've worked on enough computers that it's not something
> I'd shy away from, though. You'll need to have some skill and patience
> to do it.
>  
> It looks like you have the Core 2 Duo iMac 2.26 GHz (Mid-2009) model:
> 
> <http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2-
duo-2.26-20-inch-aluminum-mid-2009-education-specs.html>
> 
> Here's the iFixit tear down, showing what is involved:
> 
> <https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Intel+20-Inch+EMC+2266
+Teardown/658>
> 
> If it looks like too much for you, you probably shouldn't mess with it.
> There will likely be some dust buildup inside of the machine, but it
> won't cause catastrophic problems if you leave it be.

OMG!  That is WAY too much for me!  I am used to the old IBM PS/2 or 
other clones that take the entire case cover off with only pressing the 
side buttons or taking off a few Phillips screws!
I would hope that during the refurb process, they did clean out or blow 
out the machine.  They give a 90 day free warranty, with additional 1 and 
2 year warranties available.

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