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| Started by | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| First post | 2015-03-27 23:57 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-03-29 17:24 +0000 |
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Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-27 23:57 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-03-28 11:12 +1100
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 00:25 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-03-28 12:34 +1100
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 02:01 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-28 09:02 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:19 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-28 09:01 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:20 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-29 08:40 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 02:00 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 03:05 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-28 18:12 +1200
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:43 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-03-28 02:04 -0600
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:37 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-28 16:51 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 21:30 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 12:42 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:29 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:10 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 21:38 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:26 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:26 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 18:01 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:50 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2015-04-02 12:40 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-29 09:19 +1200
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 21:39 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:20 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:02 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-29 17:19 +1200
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 04:27 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:48 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 18:01 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-28 22:03 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:34 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-28 21:42 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:52 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 21:28 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 22:23 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-29 13:45 +1200
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 03:35 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-29 17:15 +1200
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-29 08:55 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 14:34 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-29 18:16 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:42 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 14:31 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 14:48 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 15:36 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-29 08:49 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-29 13:52 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-03-28 09:04 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-28 15:16 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:17 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-28 16:29 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 21:01 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-28 17:11 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-28 17:16 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-28 16:29 -0400
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:58 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-28 20:55 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! DaveC <not@home.cow> - 2015-03-27 23:52 -0700
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:39 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-03-29 01:31 -0700
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 14:48 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-28 22:03 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-28 20:32 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 12:27 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-29 02:55 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 18:01 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-29 02:20 -0700
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 23:41 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-29 23:43 +1300
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 17:28 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-29 10:47 -0700
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-29 11:25 -0700
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 22:12 +0000
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-03-29 15:34 -0700
Re: Finally got my new iMac! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-29 17:24 +0000
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 21:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cnojn3F5h8sU11@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #72245 |
On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: > >> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >> >>> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? >> >> There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find 10.6 >> DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. > > Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and > even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from > people. The whole idea of installing a new operating system is to insure your OS is free of nasties that someone else may have put there. Purchasing some thumb drive some stranger created isn't going to help there. Just purchase it from Apple directly. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 21:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mf770g$4eg$13@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72259 |
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 21:10:59 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: >> >>> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? >>> >>> There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find >>> 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. >> >> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and >> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from >> people. > > The whole idea of installing a new operating system is to insure your OS > is free of nasties that someone else may have put there. Purchasing some > thumb drive some stranger created isn't going to help there. Just > purchase it from Apple directly. Amazon has the original Lion thumb drive, as does ebay. I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive. I will admit that the only "pirated" OS that I ever had was when several teachers in my school made us copies of W2K Professional to have on our home computers to match the school computers! He also provided us with a copy of Microsoft Office 2000. Seems like every teacher in the school had done the same thing, even the principal did not care! It did allow me to run the gradebook app at home and not have to be at my classroom computer!
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 22:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cnoo52F76eeU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #72265 |
On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 21:10:59 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: >>> >>>> sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? >>>> >>>> There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find >>>> 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. >>> >>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and >>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from >>> people. >> >> The whole idea of installing a new operating system is to insure your OS >> is free of nasties that someone else may have put there. Purchasing some >> thumb drive some stranger created isn't going to help there. Just >> purchase it from Apple directly. > > Amazon has the original Lion thumb drive, as does ebay. Personally, I'd skip Lion (10.7) and go straight to Yosemite (10.10) since a lot of problems in Lion and Mountain Lion, and even Mavericks, are solved in Yosemite. > I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive. Good! -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 03:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mf7rcq$up5$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72271 |
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:26:42 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: <snip> > Personally, I'd skip Lion (10.7) and go straight to Yosemite (10.10) > since a lot of problems in Lion and Mountain Lion, and even Mavericks, > are solved in Yosemite. > >> I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive. > > Good! I have read that Lion/Mt.Lion were transitional years, and even Mavericks was not that stable. Was Tiger the "best" version? I have heard that from several sources, that is the version that my old iMac G4 has, 10.4.11! Should I just stay with what comes on the machine(Snow Leopard 10.6.x)?
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 18:01 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1m222mu.1mirbvz1ek02xfN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #72298 |
sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:26:42 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > > <snip> > > > Personally, I'd skip Lion (10.7) and go straight to Yosemite (10.10) > > since a lot of problems in Lion and Mountain Lion, and even Mavericks, > > are solved in Yosemite. > > > >> I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive. > > > > Good! > > I have read that Lion/Mt.Lion were transitional years, and even Mavericks > was not that stable. > Was Tiger the "best" version? I have heard that from several sources, > that is the version that my old iMac G4 has, 10.4.11! > Should I just stay with what comes on the machine(Snow Leopard 10.6.x)? In my experience, most people consider that Snow Leopard was the best version of OS X to date. Those who continue running Snow Leopard at this point are likely to fall into one of these camps: (a) Have essential PowerPC-only applications, which won't run in later versions because the Rosetta code translation mechanism was dropped in Lion, and they either don't want to upgrade the apps or some have been discontinued and they don't want to change to something else. (b) The Mac in question is an early Intel model which cannot upgrade further. (All Early 2006 models, some Mid to Late 2006 models.) (c) The Mac in question is a slightly newer Intel model which could upgrade to Lion but not to Mountain Lion or later, and Lion is really not worth it. (Late 2006 to some models as recent as Late 2008.) (d) Don't like changes in later versions. (e) Generally reluctant to upgrade the OS. I was in group (a) for several months after Lion was released, because I was using Eudora as my mail client and was reluctant to switch to something else. I eventually got over it and upgraded to Lion about ten months after Lion was released, and upgraded promptly to each subsequent version. As you still have an older PowerPC iMac, (a) shouldn't apply to you unless you want to keep everything on the same computer. Even then, running Snow Leopard Server in a virtual machine on a later OS X version is a reasonable solution for occasionally running old applications. I use this method to run things like old versions of FileMaker or AppleWorks once in a blue moon. The main argument against continuing to run Snow Leopard now is that it is becoming obsolete: its last security and Safari updates were in late 2013, and its last iTunes update was in late 2014, which means iTunes on Snow Leopard won't be able to operate with iOS devices running iOS 9 later this year. At present, third party web browsers (e.g. Firefox and Chrome) still support Snow Leopard, as does Adobe Flash, but the question is how much longer that will continue. Based on when they stopped supporting Leopard, I'm expecting at least some of them will drop Snow Leopard support this year. Other third party applications vary, but many have already moved on to requiring a later version of OS X. As far as I know, the current version of all of Apple's applications require a later OS X version (most require Yosemite, a few still support Mavericks, a very few still support Mountain Lion or Lion). If your iMac is not being used for web access, and you don't have any iOS devices, and the main function will be to run iTunes, then Snow Leopard may be a reasonable choice in your case. At a minimum, you should get Yosemite from the App Store, even if you don't install it now (you can cancel the download, or quit the installer if you let it finish downloading). Based on the pattern with Mavericks, once the next OS X version is released, you won't be able to get Yosemite if you didn't get it while it was available. You will be able to download Yosemite later if it is already in your Purchases list. You can also download and keep a copy of the Yosemite installer in case you need it later, preferably on an external drive, since a 5 GB file would be a significant chunk of your internal 160 GB drive. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 13:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cnqe9hFj2crU11@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #72298 |
On 2015-03-29, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:26:42 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > ><snip> > >> Personally, I'd skip Lion (10.7) and go straight to Yosemite (10.10) >> since a lot of problems in Lion and Mountain Lion, and even Mavericks, >> are solved in Yosemite. >> >>> I would not trust somebody's homemade thumbdrive. >> >> Good! > > I have read that Lion/Mt.Lion were transitional years, and even Mavericks > was not that stable. Yep. Lots of the bugs introduced in those versions have been fixed in Yosemite. > Was Tiger the "best" version? I have heard that from several sources, > that is the version that my old iMac G4 has, 10.4.11! > Should I just stay with what comes on the machine(Snow Leopard 10.6.x)? I'd go straight to Yosemite. But if you are trying to avoid that for some strange reason, I'd stick with 10.6. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-02 12:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <proto-A4E1E0.12393902042015@news.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #72298 |
In article <mf7rcq$up5$4@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > I have read that Lion/Mt.Lion were transitional years, and even Mavericks > was not that stable. > Was Tiger the "best" version? I have heard that from several sources, > that is the version that my old iMac G4 has, 10.4.11! > Should I just stay with what comes on the machine(Snow Leopard 10.6.x)? I'd like to, but 10.6 hasn't been supported for too long. <sigh> Core 2 duo machine can be pretty peppy with Snow Leopard. -- Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greed. Me.
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 09:19 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <290320150919054929%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #72245 |
In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: > > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > > > >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? > > > > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find 10.6 > > DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. > > Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and > even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from > people. Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them.
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 21:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mf7724$4eg$14@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72262 |
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 09:19:05 +1200, Your Name wrote: > In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> > wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: >> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? >> > >> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find >> > 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. >> >> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and >> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from >> people. > > Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions > of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them. The model will run the latest OS according to http://www.everymac.com/ systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2-duo-2.26-20-inch-aluminum-mid-2009- education-specs.html
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 22:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cnonp7F76eeU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #72262 |
On 2015-03-28, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 ><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: >> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? >> > >> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find 10.6 >> > DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. >> >> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and >> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy from >> people. > > Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions > of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them. His iMac is circa 2009, and any iMac Mid-2007 or newer will run Yosemite, according to Apple. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 03:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mf7q0n$up5$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72269 |
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:20:23 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2015-03-28, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: >> In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 >><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: >>> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >>> > >>> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? >>> > >>> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find >>> > 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. >>> >>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and >>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy >>> from people. >> >> Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions >> of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them. > > His iMac is circa 2009, and any iMac Mid-2007 or newer will run > Yosemite, according to Apple. This is a very weird model, being an educational model. It is branded as being "late 2009", but according to everymac.com, it was not produced until 2010, with production ending in 2012. Why would this model be listed as being a year older?
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 17:19 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <290320151719168963%YourName@YourISP.com> |
| In reply to | #72295 |
In article <mf7q0n$up5$3@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:20:23 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > > On 2015-03-28, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > >> In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 > >><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > >>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: > >>> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? > >>> > > >>> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find > >>> > 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. > >>> > >>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and > >>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy > >>> from people. > >> > >> Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions > >> of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them. > > > > His iMac is circa 2009, and any iMac Mid-2007 or newer will run > > Yosemite, according to Apple. > > This is a very weird model, being an educational model. It is branded as > being "late 2009", but according to everymac.com, it was not produced > until 2010, with production ending in 2012. > Why would this model be listed as being a year older? Because that's when Apple released it as an Educational model (possibly even a re-release of an older version with slight tweaks) - it may well be almost the same as the 2009 model, but been lower-end than the other models being sold in 2010. There have been a few Educational models over the years that the general public weren't able to buy.
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 04:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mf7uus$191$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72302 |
On Sun, 29 Mar 2015 17:19:16 +1200, Your Name wrote: >> This is a very weird model, being an educational model. It is branded >> as being "late 2009", but according to everymac.com, it was not >> produced until 2010, with production ending in 2012. >> Why would this model be listed as being a year older? > > Because that's when Apple released it as an Educational model (possibly > even a re-release of an older version with slight tweaks) - it may well > be almost the same as the 2009 model, but been lower-end than the other > models being sold in 2010. There have been a few Educational models over > the years that the general public weren't able to buy. Educational/institutional models are weird. This one that I bought, has no bluetooth, guess that they did not want students mucking about with their cell phones or something! I have never had a need for bluetooth on any of my other computers, all of them running Scientific Linux 6.6(which has bluetooth). I do not use my phone to "pair" with the computer. If I want to transfer things, like photos, I use usb cables. I just recently got my first "smartphone", a Motorola Moto E, not a high end job. I was using a Pantech Breeze II flip phone and getting along well enough, but my wife has had a Motorola Atrix for several years and wanted me to use texting, which was a real bitch on that flip phone!
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 13:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cnqe6bFj2crU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #72304 |
On 2015-03-29, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > > I have never had a need for bluetooth on any of my other computers, > all of them running Scientific Linux 6.6(which has bluetooth). I do > not use my phone to "pair" with the computer. With Macs, Bluetooth provides way more functionality than just transferring files. Lots of Continuity functionality is enabled by Bluetooth for instance: <https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/continuity/> AirDrop is built on top of Bluetooth as well: <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202267> The list goes on... -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2015-03-29 18:01 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1m224f5.bx0rm71s8czi5N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #72295 |
sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:20:23 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > > > On 2015-03-28, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > >> In article <mf73e0$4eg$6@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1 > >><sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > >>> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:04:19 -0600, Neill Massello wrote: > >>> > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? > >>> > > >>> > There are no discs for 10.7 and later, but you may be able to find > >>> > 10.6 DVDs at Amazon or at We Love Macs <http://www.welovemacs.com/>. > >>> > >>> Thank you, I did find the stuff on Amazon, the Lion thumb drives, and > >>> even Mavericks and 10.10 on Kingston thumb drives that you can buy > >>> from people. > >> > >> Just make sure that the older iMac can actually use the newer versions > >> of OS X before potentially wasting money buying them. > > > > His iMac is circa 2009, and any iMac Mid-2007 or newer will run > > Yosemite, according to Apple. > > This is a very weird model, being an educational model. It is branded as > being "late 2009", but according to everymac.com, it was not produced > until 2010, with production ending in 2012. > Why would this model be listed as being a year older? There is limited verifiable information about your model, because its release wasn't publicised. Everymac may have some details wrong, and if it was advertised to you as a "Late 2009" that may be misleading because the Late 2009 retail iMac is quite a different beast. Describing it as a "Mid 2009" is reasonable, because it is identical to the originally released Mid 2009 model, apart from a slightly faster processor. It will have the same model identifier as that model, which means that when a future OS X version drops support for the original Mid 2009 iMac, your slightly faster one will also stop being supported. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 22:03 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1m20jwo.1q0asjq1dtc779N%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #72190 |
sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:00:28 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > > > > Congrats. Your biggest worry with that machine is overheating and > > component failure, which goes for most machines that age. I'd open it up > > and give it a thorough dusting, first thing, followed by erasing the > > hard drive and installing a fresh known-good pristine copy of Mac OS X > > to start fresh without any potential nasties. > > Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? It should be possible to contact Apple Sales to order a replacement set of the original DVDs which came with the computer. Given that it was introduced in 2010, it should have a pair of DVDs, one with Snow Leopard and the other with the bundled iLife '09 applications. This will not be free. A possible complication is that this is an education-only model, and they might not be willing to supply the discs unless you are an educational institution. Another option is to buy a retail Snow Leopard DVD, which is still available from the Apple online store for US$19.99: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard That will give you the most important bit. It won't give you the hardware test software (only on the bundled DVD), nor the iLife '09 installer (which you could probably get through a remarketing source or ebay if you really wanted that version - I'd suggest getting iLife '11 instead). -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 20:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mf738e$4eg$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72215 |
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:03:23 +1300, David Empson wrote: >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? > > It should be possible to contact Apple Sales to order a replacement set > of the original DVDs which came with the computer. Given that it was > introduced in 2010, it should have a pair of DVDs, one with Snow Leopard > and the other with the bundled iLife '09 applications. This will not be > free. > > A possible complication is that this is an education-only model, and > they might not be willing to supply the discs unless you are an > educational institution. > > Another option is to buy a retail Snow Leopard DVD, which is still > available from the Apple online store for US$19.99: > > http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A/mac-os-x-106-snow-leopard > > That will give you the most important bit. It won't give you the > hardware test software (only on the bundled DVD), nor the iLife '09 > installer (which you could probably get through a remarketing source or > ebay if you really wanted that version - I'd suggest getting iLife '11 > instead). Thank you, I asked this question to you in an earlier post, so please disregard that! I asked about the same stuff you answered here, so I will use this info when I get the machine.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 21:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnmhe84e.1dg3.g.kreme@kreme.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #72215 |
Okay, so one time? In band camp? David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> was all, like: > sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: >> On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:00:28 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: >> >> >> > Congrats. Your biggest worry with that machine is overheating and >> > component failure, which goes for most machines that age. I'd open it up >> > and give it a thorough dusting, first thing, followed by erasing the >> > hard drive and installing a fresh known-good pristine copy of Mac OS X >> > to start fresh without any potential nasties. >> >> Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? > It should be possible to contact Apple Sales to order a replacement set > of the original DVDs which came with the computer. Given that it was > introduced in 2010, it should have a pair of DVDs, one with Snow Leopard > and the other with the bundled iLife '09 applications. This will not be > free. A friend of mine had a 10.5 machine that he wanted to update to 10.7. When he called Apple they sent him an install DVD of 10.6.3 so he could update to 10.6.8 so he could buy 10.7. They did not charge him for the DVD even though the 10.6.3 installer is normally $20. I think the key was "I want to update to 10.7". -- http://2blog.kreme.com 'I don't like to ask them questions.' 'Why not?' 'They might give me answers. And then what would I do?'
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 20:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cnoik8F5h8sU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #72190 |
On 2015-03-28, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 02:00:28 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > >> Congrats. Your biggest worry with that machine is overheating and >> component failure, which goes for most machines that age. I'd open it up >> and give it a thorough dusting, first thing, followed by erasing the >> hard drive and installing a fresh known-good pristine copy of Mac OS X >> to start fresh without any potential nasties. > > Where would I get the CDs/DVDs for the OS? I thought that the > discontinued those a long time ago? The only CDs that I have are: > 10.2 Jaguar(the disks that came with my 2002 G4) > 10.3 Panther(boxed) > 10.4.11(disks only) > All of these are for the PPC only. Would I have to go on eBay to find > the OS disks? Nah, you purchase Yosemite from the App Store (from the Apple menu), and you install it that way: <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475> > Are these easy to open up and blow the dust out? I should have made that clear. Sorry. No iMac is "easy" to open for the average user. I've worked on enough computers that it's not something I'd shy away from, though. You'll need to have some skill and patience to do it. It looks like you have the Core 2 Duo iMac 2.26 GHz (Mid-2009) model: <http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2-duo-2.26-20-inch-aluminum-mid-2009-education-specs.html> Here's the iFixit tear down, showing what is involved: <https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Intel+20-Inch+EMC+2266+Teardown/658> If it looks like too much for you, you probably shouldn't mess with it. There will likely be some dust buildup inside of the machine, but it won't cause catastrophic problems if you leave it be. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2015-03-28 21:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mf76di$4eg$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #72250 |
On Sat, 28 Mar 2015 20:52:24 +0000, Jolly Roger wrote: > Nah, you purchase Yosemite from the App Store (from the Apple menu), and > you install it that way: > > <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475> > >> Are these easy to open up and blow the dust out? > > I should have made that clear. Sorry. No iMac is "easy" to open for the > average user. I've worked on enough computers that it's not something > I'd shy away from, though. You'll need to have some skill and patience > to do it. > > It looks like you have the Core 2 Duo iMac 2.26 GHz (Mid-2009) model: > > <http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac-core-2- duo-2.26-20-inch-aluminum-mid-2009-education-specs.html> > > Here's the iFixit tear down, showing what is involved: > > <https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+Intel+20-Inch+EMC+2266 +Teardown/658> > > If it looks like too much for you, you probably shouldn't mess with it. > There will likely be some dust buildup inside of the machine, but it > won't cause catastrophic problems if you leave it be. OMG! That is WAY too much for me! I am used to the old IBM PS/2 or other clones that take the entire case cover off with only pressing the side buttons or taking off a few Phillips screws! I would hope that during the refurb process, they did clean out or blow out the machine. They give a 90 day free warranty, with additional 1 and 2 year warranties available.
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