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  NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-01 15:48 -0500
    Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-01 21:07 +0000
      Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 01:13 -0500
        Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-02 16:12 +0000
          Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 12:47 -0500
            Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-02 18:06 +0000
              Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 13:47 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 14:03 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 06:34 -0500
            Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 12:54 +0000
              Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 07:59 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 13:22 +0000
                  Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 08:33 -0500
                    Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 14:38 +0000
              Re: NAS suggestions Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-05 19:00 +0000
          Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 07:57 -0500
            Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 09:01 -0500
              Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 11:58 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 12:18 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 17:48 +0000
            Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 14:06 +0000
              Re: NAS suggestions Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> - 2015-03-05 11:55 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 17:46 +0000
        Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 11:35 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 12:50 -0500
          Re: NAS suggestions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-02 14:11 -0500
            Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-02 19:13 +0000
              Re: NAS suggestions JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-02 14:49 -0500
                Re: NAS suggestions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-03 09:31 +1300
                  Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 15:58 -0500
                    Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 17:32 -0500
                      Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-03 07:18 -0500
                        Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-03 12:23 -0500
                          Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-03 14:30 -0500
                            Re: NAS suggestions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-04 09:07 +1300
                            Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-03 15:05 -0500
                    Re: NAS suggestions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-02 18:05 -0500
                    Re: NAS suggestions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-03 13:07 +1300
                Re: NAS suggestions Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-03 00:55 +0000
            Re: NAS suggestions nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-02 14:14 -0500
            Re: NAS suggestions Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-02 14:43 -0500
            Re: NAS suggestions Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-03 08:56 +1300
            Re: NAS suggestions Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-02 15:56 -0500

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#70356 — NAS suggestions

Is anyone using an NAS thingie? I've been looking at the Lenovo ix2 line 
-- they seem pretty cheap. Can you boot from one of these?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70358

On 2015-03-01, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is anyone using an NAS thingie? I've been looking at the Lenovo ix2 line 
> -- they seem pretty cheap. Can you boot from one of these?

Yeah, I use a Drobo -  way better than most simple NAS solutions.

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#70362

In article <clhdcoFl983U8@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-03-01, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is anyone using an NAS thingie? I've been looking at the Lenovo ix2 line 
> > -- they seem pretty cheap. Can you boot from one of these?
> 
> Yeah, I use a Drobo -  way better than most simple NAS solutions.

Thanks. Then I said "Hmm." I can buy a used Mac Pro 1,1 or 2,1 for a few 
hundred bucks and populate 3 of the bays with 2 terabyte drives and boot 
with an SSD from the other bay and use the machine for an NAS, with 
Samba and Avahi. I can run an Apache server on it; I can run Squid and 
some sort of SQL. It's got 2 wired NICs and Airport: I can turn it into 
a router connected to my VPN (and so on).

I can hack Yosemite into it, and if I'm running it essentially headless, 
it doesn't matter about the graphics display.  Aside from the obvious 
considerations of power consumption and size (it's not a noisy machine 
by any means), are there any drawbacks to such a scheme?
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70367

On 2015-03-02, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <clhdcoFl983U8@mid.individual.net>,
>  Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2015-03-01, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Is anyone using an NAS thingie? I've been looking at the Lenovo ix2 line 
>> > -- they seem pretty cheap. Can you boot from one of these?
>> 
>> Yeah, I use a Drobo -  way better than most simple NAS solutions.
>
> Thanks. Then I said "Hmm." I can buy a used Mac Pro 1,1 or 2,1 for a few 
> hundred bucks and populate 3 of the bays with 2 terabyte drives and boot 
> with an SSD from the other bay and use the machine for an NAS, with 
> Samba and Avahi. I can run an Apache server on it; I can run Squid and 
> some sort of SQL. It's got 2 wired NICs and Airport: I can turn it into 
> a router connected to my VPN (and so on).
>
> I can hack Yosemite into it, and if I'm running it essentially headless, 
> it doesn't matter about the graphics display.  Aside from the obvious 
> considerations of power consumption and size (it's not a noisy machine 
> by any means), are there any drawbacks to such a scheme?

A Mac mini would be cheaper to purchase, and way cheaper to run due to
much lower energy requirements and less heat output. I have a Drobo S
with 17 TB of hard drives installed connected to a dual 2.5 Ghz Core i5
Mac mini (Late 2012) server that sits in my office closet without a
monitor - I can connect to it with screen sharing, but rarely have the
need. That Mac mini runs Yosemite with Mac OS X Server installed ($19
from the App Store), which provides most of the following services,
though some I provide myself: file sharing, DNS, VPN, Apache, MySQL,
Mail, Time Machine network backups for all Macs in the house, a caching
server, Xcode git repositories, iTunes Home Sharing serving digital
movies and television shows for all devices in the house (computers,
iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs connected to wide screen televisions, etc), my
own custom home surveillance system, and just about anything else I
need. I used to compile and configure all of the above by hand from open
source packages and so on; but OS X Server is stable and robust enough
now that I no longer need to do that, which saves me tons of time and
sweat. The Mac mini is connected to an Airport Extreme dual band router
and a Motorola SURFboard SB6121 cable modem (also in the closet) as well
as an APC Back-UPS Pro BR1500 uninterruptible power supply that ensures
a little over an hour of run time for all of the above so that I never
lose my network connection during power outages. It's stable and just
works the majority of the time. It's a pretty sweet setup in a small
package. I love it. 
 
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JR

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#70370

In article <cljgfsF7fubU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> A Mac mini would be cheaper to purchase, and way cheaper to run due to
> much lower energy requirements and less heat output. I have a Drobo S
> with 17 TB of hard drives installed connected to a dual 2.5 Ghz Core i5
> Mac mini (Late 2012) server that sits in my office closet without a
> monitor - I can connect to it with screen sharing, but rarely have the
> need. That Mac mini runs Yosemite with Mac OS X Server installed ($19
> from the App Store), which provides most of the following services,
> though some I provide myself: file sharing, DNS, VPN, Apache, MySQL,
> Mail, Time Machine network backups for all Macs in the house, a caching
> server, Xcode git repositories, iTunes Home Sharing serving digital
> movies and television shows for all devices in the house (computers,
> iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs connected to wide screen televisions, etc), my
> own custom home surveillance system, and just about anything else I
> need. I used to compile and configure all of the above by hand from open
> source packages and so on; but OS X Server is stable and robust enough
> now that I no longer need to do that, which saves me tons of time and
> sweat. The Mac mini is connected to an Airport Extreme dual band router
> and a Motorola SURFboard SB6121 cable modem (also in the closet) as well
> as an APC Back-UPS Pro BR1500 uninterruptible power supply that ensures
> a little over an hour of run time for all of the above so that I never
> lose my network connection during power outages. It's stable and just
> works the majority of the time. It's a pretty sweet setup in a small
> package. I love it. 

Cool. I'll dig into that further. I like the idea of the Mac Pro because 
it's infinitely expandable. Those Drobos aren't cheap ...
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70372

On 2015-03-02, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <cljgfsF7fubU1@mid.individual.net>,
>
> Cool. I'll dig into that further. I like the idea of the Mac Pro because 
> it's infinitely expandable. 

I have a Mac Pro (Early 2008) and wish it wasn't such an energy hog and
heater. I wouldn't use one for the above purposes. : )

> Those Drobos aren't cheap ...

Those Drobos give you far more than the typical dumb drive enclosure.
Have you read about the technologies involved and ease of use? The
phrase "you get what you pay for" does apply. ; )
 
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#70373

In article <cljn5mFaa7jU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> 
> Those Drobos give you far more than the typical dumb drive enclosure.
> Have you read about the technologies involved and ease of use? The
> phrase "you get what you pay for" does apply. ; )

Oh, I realize that there's more going on than just a drive enclosure. 
There seems to be a whole hacker cult around the Lenovo ix2 series (runs 
an obscure form of Linux).
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#70374

On 2015.03.02 13:47 , Warren Oates wrote:
> In article <cljn5mFaa7jU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Those Drobos give you far more than the typical dumb drive enclosure.
>> Have you read about the technologies involved and ease of use? The
>> phrase "you get what you pay for" does apply. ; )
>
> Oh, I realize that there's more going on than just a drive enclosure.
> There seems to be a whole hacker cult around the Lenovo ix2 series (runs
> an obscure form of Linux).

Given Lenovo's Chinese backing and recent Superfish fiasco, I'd stay 
away from them like the bubonic plague.  Yes, this is not a PC and yes, 
it's Linux, and yes it's probably fine.

But they need a marketplace spanking.

(I've personally stayed away from the bubonic plague and it's done me 
wonders).

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
                                   Benjamin Franklin

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#70492

On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 11:12:44 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <cljgfsF7fubU1@mid.individual.net>):

[snip]>

> A Mac mini would be cheaper to purchase, and way cheaper to run due to
> much lower energy requirements and less heat output. I have a Drobo S
> with 17 TB of hard drives installed connected to a dual 2.5 Ghz Core i5
> Mac mini (Late 2012) server that sits in my office closet without a
> monitor - I can connect to it with screen sharing, but rarely have the
> need. That Mac mini runs Yosemite with Mac OS X Server installed ($19
> from the App Store), which provides most of the following services,
> though some I provide myself: file sharing, DNS, VPN, Apache, MySQL,
> Mail, Time Machine network backups for all Macs in the house, a caching
> server, Xcode git repositories, iTunes Home Sharing serving digital
> movies and television shows for all devices in the house (computers,
> iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs connected to wide screen televisions, etc), my
> own custom home surveillance system, and just about anything else I
> need. I used to compile and configure all of the above by hand from open
> source packages and so on; but OS X Server is stable and robust enough
> now that I no longer need to do that, which saves me tons of time and
> sweat. The Mac mini is connected to an Airport Extreme dual band router
> and a Motorola SURFboard SB6121 cable modem (also in the closet) as well
> as an APC Back-UPS Pro BR1500 uninterruptible power supply that ensures
> a little over an hour of run time for all of the above so that I never
> lose my network connection during power outages. It's stable and just
> works the majority of the time. It's a pretty sweet setup in a small
> package. I love it. 

I have a similar setup with a Nobro :)  I just buy external desktop 
drives in pairs and back them up periodically with CCC.

-- 
Nelson

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#70493

On 2015-03-05, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 11:12:44 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <cljgfsF7fubU1@mid.individual.net>):
>
> [snip]>
>
>> A Mac mini would be cheaper to purchase, and way cheaper to run due to
>> much lower energy requirements and less heat output. I have a Drobo S
>> with 17 TB of hard drives installed connected to a dual 2.5 Ghz Core i5
>> Mac mini (Late 2012) server that sits in my office closet without a
>> monitor - I can connect to it with screen sharing, but rarely have the
>> need. That Mac mini runs Yosemite with Mac OS X Server installed ($19
>> from the App Store), which provides most of the following services,
>> though some I provide myself: file sharing, DNS, VPN, Apache, MySQL,
>> Mail, Time Machine network backups for all Macs in the house, a caching
>> server, Xcode git repositories, iTunes Home Sharing serving digital
>> movies and television shows for all devices in the house (computers,
>> iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs connected to wide screen televisions, etc), my
>> own custom home surveillance system, and just about anything else I
>> need. I used to compile and configure all of the above by hand from open
>> source packages and so on; but OS X Server is stable and robust enough
>> now that I no longer need to do that, which saves me tons of time and
>> sweat. The Mac mini is connected to an Airport Extreme dual band router
>> and a Motorola SURFboard SB6121 cable modem (also in the closet) as well
>> as an APC Back-UPS Pro BR1500 uninterruptible power supply that ensures
>> a little over an hour of run time for all of the above so that I never
>> lose my network connection during power outages. It's stable and just
>> works the majority of the time. It's a pretty sweet setup in a small
>> package. I love it. 
>
> I have a similar setup with a Nobro :)  I just buy external desktop 
> drives in pairs and back them up periodically with CCC.

What the heck is a "Nobro"?

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#70496

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 07:54:22 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <clr1vtF75tsU1@mid.individual.net>):

> What the heck is a "Nobro"?

A pun :)

-- 
Nelson

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#70498

On 2015-03-05, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 07:54:22 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <clr1vtF75tsU1@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> What the heck is a "Nobro"?
>
> A pun :)

Oh, you use a Drobo in a similar fashion. Got it. Sorry - haven't had
any coffee yet this morning. : )

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#70501

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 08:22:41 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <clr3l1F75tsU4@mid.individual.net>):

> On 2015-03-05, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 07:54:22 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
>> (in article <clr1vtF75tsU1@mid.individual.net>):
>> 
>>> What the heck is a "Nobro"?
>> 
>> A pun :)
> 
> Oh, you use a Drobo in a similar fashion. Got it. Sorry - haven't had
> any coffee yet this morning. : )

Get some coffee!  I don't have any "bo"'s.  I just have a bunch of 
external desktop drives connected directly to the Mac Mini server.

-- 
Nelson

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#70508

On 2015-03-05, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 08:22:41 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <clr3l1F75tsU4@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> On 2015-03-05, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 07:54:22 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
>>> (in article <clr1vtF75tsU1@mid.individual.net>):
>>> 
>>>> What the heck is a "Nobro"?
>>> 
>>> A pun :)
>> 
>> Oh, you use a Drobo in a similar fashion. Got it. Sorry - haven't had
>> any coffee yet this morning. : )
>
> Get some coffee!  I don't have any "bo"'s.  I just have a bunch of 
> external desktop drives connected directly to the Mac Mini server.

Oh, so they aren't even RAID units? Okay.

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#70542

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like:
> On 2015-03-05, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 11:12:44 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
>> (in article <cljgfsF7fubU1@mid.individual.net>):
>>
>> [snip]>
>>
>>> A Mac mini would be cheaper to purchase, and way cheaper to run due to
>>> much lower energy requirements and less heat output. I have a Drobo S
>>> with 17 TB of hard drives installed connected to a dual 2.5 Ghz Core i5
>>> Mac mini (Late 2012) server that sits in my office closet without a
>>> monitor - I can connect to it with screen sharing, but rarely have the
>>> need. That Mac mini runs Yosemite with Mac OS X Server installed ($19
>>> from the App Store), which provides most of the following services,
>>> though some I provide myself: file sharing, DNS, VPN, Apache, MySQL,
>>> Mail, Time Machine network backups for all Macs in the house, a caching
>>> server, Xcode git repositories, iTunes Home Sharing serving digital
>>> movies and television shows for all devices in the house (computers,
>>> iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs connected to wide screen televisions, etc), my
>>> own custom home surveillance system, and just about anything else I
>>> need. I used to compile and configure all of the above by hand from open
>>> source packages and so on; but OS X Server is stable and robust enough
>>> now that I no longer need to do that, which saves me tons of time and
>>> sweat. The Mac mini is connected to an Airport Extreme dual band router
>>> and a Motorola SURFboard SB6121 cable modem (also in the closet) as well
>>> as an APC Back-UPS Pro BR1500 uninterruptible power supply that ensures
>>> a little over an hour of run time for all of the above so that I never
>>> lose my network connection during power outages. It's stable and just
>>> works the majority of the time. It's a pretty sweet setup in a small
>>> package. I love it. 
>>
>> I have a similar setup with a Nobro :)  I just buy external desktop 
>> drives in pairs and back them up periodically with CCC.

> What the heck is a "Nobro"?

Isn't that the brassiere marketed to men that was in that episode of
Seinfeld?


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#70494

On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 11:12:44 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
(in article <cljgfsF7fubU1@mid.individual.net>):

> I have a Drobo S with 17 TB of hard drives installed

Just curious.  Is that 17 TB of redundant storage (34 TB actual)?  I'm 
trying to figure out how you get 34 TB in 5 bays :)  Also the Drobo 
reviews on Amazon are quite mixed with a lot of _really_bad_ 
experiences including total data loss.  Not gainsaying your experience, 
but for that much money I'd expect at least better product support 
reviews.

I've been tempted to replace my Nobro rat's nest solution many times 
but can never justify the expense, especially with these mixed reviews.
The last one that caught my eye was the Thecus N4310 
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/16/review_thecus_n4310_4_bay_nas_b
ox/?page=1) but the cost of all those new drives put me off.  Plus it's 
still not big enough to take all the data on my existing drives (~ 12 
TB).

-- 
Nelson

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#70506

On 2015.03.05 07:57 , Nelson wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2015 11:12:44 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote
> (in article <cljgfsF7fubU1@mid.individual.net>):
>
>> I have a Drobo S with 17 TB of hard drives installed
>
> Just curious.  Is that 17 TB of redundant storage (34 TB actual)?  I'm
> trying to figure out how you get 34 TB in 5 bays :)  Also the Drobo
> reviews on Amazon are quite mixed with a lot of _really_bad_
> experiences including total data loss.  Not gainsaying your experience,
> but for that much money I'd expect at least better product support
> reviews.

It's an excellent and reliable product.  When a drive dies you hot pop 
it out, hot slap in a new one and ignore it.  The Drobo takes care of 
recovery w/o another action.

It's also a single-point-of-failure risk.

So if you have a Drobo and it dies you have 4 or 5 drives sitting there 
that cannot be recovered until the Drobo is repaired or replaced.

I've gone back to redundant copies of disks using USB 3.0 drives.

No RAID nonsense.  No more Drobo.  Just redundancy.  Cheap.  Simple.

> I've been tempted to replace my Nobro rat's nest solution many times
> but can never justify the expense, especially with these mixed reviews.
> The last one that caught my eye was the Thecus N4310
> (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/16/review_thecus_n4310_4_bay_nas_b
> ox/?page=1) but the cost of all those new drives put me off.  Plus it's
> still not big enough to take all the data on my existing drives (~ 12
> TB).

I bought a D-Link NAS a few years ago and despite it having a gigabit 
ethernet it might as well have been on an old 10 Mb ethernet.  It also 
made all files public (within the network) which was plain dumb.

All that to say: pay attention to reviews and hit the many boards and 
read for the slightest issues.  They're probably going to hit you and 
the "fans" of a certain product may not be fully revealing buyers remorse.

-- 
"Your net worth to the world is usually
  determined by what remains after your
  bad habits are subtracted from your good ones."
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#70523

On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 09:01:11 -0500, Alan Browne wrote
(in article <5YCdnfKg3tI1_GXJnZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com>):

> I've gone back to redundant copies of disks using USB 3.0 drives.
> 
> No RAID nonsense.  No more Drobo.  Just redundancy.  Cheap.  Simple.

Yeah, me too.  That's what I meant by "Nobro" but I guess the pun 
misfired :)

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#70526

On 2015.03.05 11:58 , Nelson wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 09:01:11 -0500, Alan Browne wrote
> (in article <5YCdnfKg3tI1_GXJnZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com>):
>
>> I've gone back to redundant copies of disks using USB 3.0 drives.
>>
>> No RAID nonsense.  No more Drobo.  Just redundancy.  Cheap.  Simple.
>
> Yeah, me too.  That's what I meant by "Nobro" but I guess the pun
> misfired :)

It didn't even misfire, alas.  Not even a fizzle.   ;-)

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#70530

On 2015-03-05, Nelson <nelson@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 09:01:11 -0500, Alan Browne wrote
> (in article <5YCdnfKg3tI1_GXJnZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com>):
>
>> I've gone back to redundant copies of disks using USB 3.0 drives.
>> 
>> No RAID nonsense.  No more Drobo.  Just redundancy.  Cheap.  Simple.
>
> Yeah, me too.  That's what I meant by "Nobro" but I guess the pun 
> misfired :)

Sorry I was slow to get it. : )

If a no-RAID solution works for you, that's great. For me, I need more
contiguous space than a single hard drive can give me. And I find
traditional "dumb" RAID solutions very distasteful after having been
spoiled by Drobo. It's great that we have options. : )

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