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  Mac Pro 1,1 upgrade to Yosemite Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-10 16:32 -0500
    Re: Mac Pro 1,1 upgrade to Yosemite Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-10 21:55 +0000
      Re: Mac Pro 1,1 upgrade to Yosemite Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-10 19:15 -0500
    Re: Mac Pro 1,1 upgrade to Yosemite Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-02-11 13:08 +1300
      Re: Mac Pro 1,1 upgrade to Yosemite Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-02-10 19:20 -0500

#69662 — Mac Pro 1,1 upgrade to Yosemite

I'm upgrading a Mac Pro 1,1 to Yosemite and it's easier than you'd think 
if you have access to a Mac that can run it (Yosemite) natively.  I got 
it to work by hooking up a BlackX dock to my MacBook Pro 4,1, and 
installing to an older 320gig drive. Then I booted the MacBook Pro from 
that drive and upgraded to 10.10.2. Then I hooked the BlacX with the 
drive in it to my Mac Pro and booted and HOLY SHIT, there it was all 
nicely booted.

Of course, I can't do anything useful with it because I still have the 
original 7300 GT video adapter, but that's easy to replace and the cost 
is nothing really given that it will breath about 4 years of new life 
into a very powerful computer.

Basically the steps are:

Hook a drive up to a Yosemite-capable Mac
Run the Install Yosemite application, and choose that drive
Let it install (takes its own sweet time)
Reboot the Yosemite-capable Mac from that drive 
Let the system update to 10.10.2
Reboot from your original drive

Attach the drive you just installed to to your Mac Pro 1,1
Download one of these:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=20283936&postcount=1616

On the drive you just attached:

Go into /System/Library/CoreServices and replace the boot.efi file there
  with one of the downloaded files (renamed to boot.efi)
Go into /usr/standalone/i386 and replace the boot.efi file there
  with one of the downloaded files (renamed to boot.efi)

Notes: the file in /System/Library/CoreServices is locked
       the /usr directory is accessed from the Go To Folder menu item
       you can probably use TDM instead of an external drive

Now y'all should be good to go, as they say. Reboot, and choose your new 
Yosemite drive as startup.

I spent ages researching this stuff, with weird bootloaders and 
modifications to obscure plists in the installer software and never got 
anywhere. This just works. Now I'm off to find a good video card. Any 
recommendations? I'm looking at 5770s.

Pisses me off that Apple don't support this stuff. I don't mind buying a 
new video card, but I'm not buying a new Mac Pro looks like a coffee 
grinder.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#69665

On 2015-02-10, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm upgrading a Mac Pro 1,1 to Yosemite and it's easier than you'd think 
> if you have access to a Mac that can run it (Yosemite) natively.  I got 
> it to work by hooking up a BlackX dock to my MacBook Pro 4,1, and 
> installing to an older 320gig drive. Then I booted the MacBook Pro from 
> that drive and upgraded to 10.10.2. Then I hooked the BlacX with the 
> drive in it to my Mac Pro and booted and HOLY SHIT, there it was all 
> nicely booted.

[snip]

Cool. Thanks for the deets.

> Now I'm off to find a good video card. Any recommendations? I'm
> looking at 5770s.

I've been running a Radeon 4870 in my Mac Pro for ages and it's been
great. These cards love to suck up dust. So you'll want to take it out
and clean the dust out every 6-12 months or the fan will get quite noisy
and the card will run very hot. I bought mine for ~$350 back in 2009.
They've come way down in price since then. Looks like you can grab one
for $160 or so right now on Amazon:

<http://www.amazon.com/ATI-Radeon-Graphics-Upgrade-Apple/dp/B007O1LQ1A>

You can probably find it for less elsewhere if you look around.

It's currently driving my Apple 27-inch LED Cinema Display at 2560 x
1440 without issue. I play 3D games quite a bit with it. It's a good,
solid card.

> Pisses me off that Apple don't support this stuff. I don't mind buying
> a new video card, but I'm not buying a new Mac Pro looks like a coffee
> grinder.

I might buy a new Mac Pro if I were in the market. My 2008 Mac Pro still
has lots of life left in it though. It's a beast. I'll try to get a few
more years out of it before I think of selling it for something newer.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#69669

In article <cjvd1uFba7rU1@mid.individual.net>,
 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> I've been running a Radeon 4870 in my Mac Pro for ages and it's been
> great. These cards love to suck up dust. So you'll want to take it out
> and clean the dust out every 6-12 months or the fan will get quite noisy
> and the card will run very hot. I bought mine for ~$350 back in 2009.
> They've come way down in price since then. Looks like you can grab one
> for $160 or so right now on Amazon:
> 
> <http://www.amazon.com/ATI-Radeon-Graphics-Upgrade-Apple/dp/B007O1LQ1A>

There's a range of prices for that card on ebay. I'll look into it, 
thanks!
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#69668

In article <54da7904$0$39582$c3e8da3$f017e9df@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm upgrading a Mac Pro 1,1 to Yosemite and it's easier than you'd think 
> if you have access to a Mac that can run it (Yosemite) natively.  I got 
> it to work by hooking up a BlackX dock to my MacBook Pro 4,1, and 
> installing to an older 320gig drive. Then I booted the MacBook Pro from 
> that drive and upgraded to 10.10.2. Then I hooked the BlacX with the 
> drive in it to my Mac Pro and booted and HOLY SHIT, there it was all 
> nicely booted.
> 
> Of course, I can't do anything useful with it because I still have the 
> original 7300 GT video adapter, but that's easy to replace and the cost 
> is nothing really given that it will breath about 4 years of new life 
> into a very powerful computer.
> 
> Basically the steps are:
> 
> Hook a drive up to a Yosemite-capable Mac
> Run the Install Yosemite application, and choose that drive
> Let it install (takes its own sweet time)
> Reboot the Yosemite-capable Mac from that drive 
> Let the system update to 10.10.2

The problem is that installing an updating on a totally different
computer may not install all the necessary drivers, etc. for all of the
the second computer's hardware.

As an example, installing Mac OS X on a Mac Pro without a DVD drive may
not install CD / DVD drivers, so the Mac Pro may not be able to use
it's DVD drive. (Before the numbnuts start: this is just a simple
example, not an actual situation. With some people still using external
DVD drives, it's likely Mac OS X still installs DVD drivers as standard
anyway.)

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#69670

In article <110220151308446746%YourName@YourISP.com>,
 Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> The problem is that installing an updating on a totally different
> computer may not install all the necessary drivers, etc. for all of the
> the second computer's hardware.
> 
> As an example, installing Mac OS X on a Mac Pro without a DVD drive may
> not install CD / DVD drivers, so the Mac Pro may not be able to use
> it's DVD drive. (Before the numbnuts start: this is just a simple
> example, not an actual situation. With some people still using external
> DVD drives, it's likely Mac OS X still installs DVD drivers as standard
> anyway.)

Thats's a good point. I haven't tested out all the stuff. The MacBook 
Pro and the Mac Pro both have optical drives, although I don't think 
we've used the one in the laptop for a year or more. I still burn the 
occasional disc on the tower. I must say, though, that I haven't heard 
any problems in that area (drivers). There's some glitch with Facetime 
and possibly iCloud accounts, but apparently Apple will authorize these 
upgraded Mac Pros. I don't use either of those things, but it's good to 
know about.

The biggest problem is that Apple's updates will (sometimes) overwrite 
the customized boot.efi, but there's a script that someone's come up 
with that copies the customized one and re-inserts it at every boot.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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